National Revolution Party leader Cosmo Mumba has appealed to the Register of Societies to force Jehovah Witnesses to start singing the national anthem and participate in national elections or be banned.
Dr Mumba told Prime TV in Lusaka that Jehovah Witnesses are the ones responsible for the prevailing low voter turnout in recent elections.He said the Registrar of Societies should immediately force Jehovah Witnesses to start voting or ban them from practising in Zambia.
Dr Mumba said singing of the national anthem is a sign of patriotism and wondered why Jehovah Witnesses have been allowed to disregard symbols of national pride and patriotism like the singing of the national anthem.
He claimed that Zambia’s democracy may not grow if institutions such as the Jehovah Witnesses are allowed to continue operating in Zambia.
deregister your part . You fool
DOCTOR OF WHAT?
DOCTOR OF STUPIDITY YOU FOOL!!
UMBA NOW YOU PLAYING WITH FIRE. LEAVE THE PEOPLE OF GOD(JEHOVA)ALONE.THEY DONT FORCE ANY ONE TO JOIN THEM.
Cosmo has never impressed me before but I couldn’t imagine that he could sink this low. He wants to rule Zambia and yet so ignorant about the freedom of choice and association. It’s only in zambia that fellows like him are given an audience. What a waste of news time!
this guy is an *****
There has always been a govt in zambia erected through voting , what has never been there is service delivery to those voters. What you have not checked right is that voters don’t vote for nonentities. Even as they vote for promising leaders , they can easily rethink their actions if disappointed too often. Stop chasing the wind Bwana , put yourself together and check your cards properly , in no time you find that you are actually the one promoting apathy by forming too many parties to the confusion of voters
This guy is better off as a comedian than a politician. Jehovah Witnesses are there in the USA, Canada, South Africa. Democracy is thriving in those countries. Don’t blame Jehovah’s Witnesses for Zambia’s political failures.
This is still alive. hahahaha! When you want people to know that are alive you either ‘wasula’ or you say something sensible, But Mumba choses ukusula!!!!
Brother, May Jehova God deliver you. The persecution you are advocating for is not new to us. It was tried against us by the KK regime in the 1960s, our houses were torched, we were arbitrarily imprisoned but we remained steady fast in our believes. We still don’t fear any form of persecution in any form.
Neither shall we fear man but Jehova
Well said Brother! We all have voted for God’s Kingdom to rule by means of His Son Christ Jesus
Cosmo, were you are touching can lead to your down fall. never should you ever opening your mouth again or else you may be charged by God for sinning against holy spirit my friend. such a political comedian indeed.
if you want you can also carry your bible go in the field ministry and mentor,sensitize and proclaim to 12 million population to vote.
Dear Cosmo ! ibange upepa lilekutwala ukutali echo ufentela pafililo. If nobody has told you about the belief and principles of Jah`s people, then ask KK or the USA courts of Law. Wilapenena ku Nte Shakwa Jehovah. I see your days reducing so much faster than you think. Jehova`s organization is the most principled organization in the world. Yes they don`t sing national anthem because it is nothing to them, they don`t vote because they have already voted Jesus Christ as there saviour and King, Their Constitution is the Bible. Therefore Mumba you are too young to start playing in hands of God`s people, i want to tell you that there`s no family in the all country of Zambia and the world at large who doesn`t have a family member who is a Jehovah`s Witness. Look at the biggest Jehovah`s Witness
mmmmm……Cosmo, If that is what you want then you should also be deregister for fainting as that was gross misrepresentation to the public. cosmo ukakula lilali kanshi. i vividly remember your cadet days at school of gross misconduct, awe let me end here.
MUMBA, NGOLI SHILU KAPENENE MU NGANDA YABANOKO. DO YOU THAT WHAT YOU HAVE SAID CARELESSLY SHOULD IT BE IMPLEMENTED BY ANOTHER IGNORANT AND CARELESS POLITICIAN THAT WOULD BE THE END OF ZAMBIA? ASK AROUND AND SEE THE ORIGIN OF JEHOVAHS WITNESSES AND HOW BIG THE ORGANISATION IS. AND RESEARCH MORE, YOU WILL DISCOVER THAT THAT IS THE ONLY RELIGIOUS ORGANISATION THAT DOES NOT AS FOR MONEY FROM ANYONE INCLUDING ORGANISATION MEMBERS. EVEN THE KINGDOM HALLS THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED HAVE ALL BEEN BUILT ON VOLUNTARY BASIS- NO MONEY INVOLVED. ORGANISATION MEMBERS JUST DONATE VARIOUS SKILLS RANGING FROM UNSKILLED TO SKILLED AND FOOD STUFF FROM DOMESTIC HOMES FOR BUILDERS. JEHOVAHS WITNESSES DO NOT COMMENT AND THEY WILL NEVER COMMENT ON ANY POLITICAL ISSUE. THEY DO NO ALLOW POLITICS IN THEIR ORGANISATION..
No need to shout.
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of only Chines in the southern region is in Lusaka, for Chines only. Look at the way a former Jehovah`s Witness government and leadership of Mwanawasa started developing and the economy. If you didn`t know Mwanawasa was taken from the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah`s Witneses by Chiluba to succeed him. And for your own imformation that organization is international and not just Zambia. Note that if you want your government to succeed and have more days do not play with Jehovah`s family. Many are the countrie and governments of the world that tried to exitended their madness to Johovah`s people ended up regrating. I warn you don`t say there were no people to tell you the trueth. Ubushilu bobe bunono compared to other world leaders who have tried that. Be careful taulakula.
Young physically but filled with outdated reasoning. The freedom of worship exists and still you can’t force people on patriotism. You have scooped too low on that one my brother.
This is probably the dumbest, Marajuana influenced comment I have ever read hahahahahaha.
Bo cosmo,
You are already a president of your small balance shfeet security company. kindly instruct registrar to deregister it because i am told 70% are Witnesses. You are a wicked man. cosmo you have me o, cosmo aaah . who is your chief advise kanshi?
Your wife will deregister you very soon ifyo watanpa nomba pakafentelo. lets see how many times you will faint. ifye tukakushikapo fye nga watig’ong’a again.
Utu ndiye tulo. Voter apathy is for those that registered but do not vote iwe. JWs do not even register so they are not counted among registered voters.
In 1967, thousands of Witnesses in Malawi were beaten by police and citizens for refusing to purchase political party cards and become members of the Malawi Congress Party. While their stand of not involving themselves in politics during the time of the old Colonial government was seen as an act of resistance their continued non-involvement with the new independent government was viewed as treasonous. The organization was declared illegal in the penal code and the foreign members in the country were expelled. Persecution, both economic and physical, was intensified after a September 1972 Malawi Congress Party meeting which stated, in part, that “all Witnesses should be dismissed from their employment; any firm that failed to comply would have its license cancelled.”
By November 1973 some 21,000 Jehovah’s Witness had fled to the neighboring country of Zambia. In 1993, during the transition to a multiparty system and a change in leadership, the government’s ban on the organization was lifted in the country…
So Mr Chifetelo, this is new. the Bible talks about pipo like you in the last days. we are in the last days indeed. shall we continue to preach zealously so that the end comes fast!
meant to say: this is NOT new
in a democracy, there is nothing compulsory. citizens hv freedoms. the suggestion he has made belongs to to Errol Flynn & the dinosaur
What Cosmo should be advocating for, as part of Lungu’s piecemeal constitutional amendments, is compulsory voting as they do in Brazil. Anybody who does not vote would be breaking the law and liable to a fine or imprisonment. I may just support that. Otherwise the Witnesses are as apathetic as the 70% of the registered voters who did not vote in January.
You are such a Village Bully
I BELIEVE THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE NO BRAINS, IWE BUCK TEETH LUNGU DO YOU THINK JW. IN BRAZIL VOTES? MY FRIEND THEY DON`T DO THAT ALL OVER THE WOLD AND THERE IS NO BODY WHO HAS EVER BEEN JAILED FOR NOT VOTING AND NEVER WILL THERE BE. THAT CONSTITUTION CAN ONLY BE USED FOR GOVERNING RATS WITH THE SAME TEETH. COSMO THINKS WHEN HE GOES BEHIND FRIDAYS CONNER AND PUFFS A LITTLE BIT THEN HE HAS A BRAIN. WHICH WELL MEANING HUMAN CREATED IN EYES OF JEHOVAH CAN LISTERN FROM HIS MIOPIC, PRIMITIVE AND OUTDATED MENTALITY LIKE HIS. DOES HE THINK JW IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT STARTS LIKE THOSE DEMONIC SMALL RAMSHACALS THEIR STARTING NO TUMASAKA TWABUNGA NEFITENGE ROUNDED UP CALLED CHURCHES? HAVE YOU EVER HEARD TRUE JW SAYING THEY ARE GOING TO CHURCH. THEY GO TO THE MEETING AT THE KINGDOM HALL, NOT A CHURCH.
Try putting caps lock off.
what kind of reasoning is this? In the last presidential election only 24% to 30% of the registered voters voted. The Witnesses are not on the voters roll. So how did they cause the voters apathy? We know you have been instructed by your father the Devil to say what you have said
If the Jehovah’s Witnesses were to be forced to vote, the first thing they would do is to unanimously vote out the regime that forced them to vote. And they will NOT be apathetic!
This Mumba is so dull.Am not a witness but a christian and am against anybody persecuting others for their divine belief.We have had Jehovas witness since time in memorial and what makes you think they are the cause of apathy?Its dull politicians like you cosmo mumba who are causing apathy.One thinks twice who to vote for if none you stay away
Cosmo Mumba we warmly invite u to this year’s annual convention titled“IMMITATE JESUS“.You need to be panel bittern and God’s gonna twist you.We are not registered voters to be called promoters of voter apathy.In the bible,syrians wanted to fight King Hezekiah’s people but an angel killed 185,000 to rescue his people.
Iwe ka Cosmo Mumba,bushe naupena nangu bakutuminefye?Nga ulicipuba tawasambilila ukufikapo ukwishiba ifintu cawamishapo ukwikala shilili unlke exhibit your ignorant,stupidity,foolishness,madness and think all you talk associated with politics of poverty so that you are heard in return for something my brother its unfortunate for you.Many of my other brothers have spoken about your low level of your reasoning capacity hence,have not much to say but request you and any one in your company with similar evil mind like yours to go ahead approach the registrar of societies if you can and see how GOVT will dance to Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide learned lawyers.
This boy,who is he where is he domiciled and what does he do for living in his life?Wish him any thing struck upon his life for him to prove that careless talking about the Almighty Jehovah GOD happens and that it becomes a lesson to many others who have ill motives for jehovah’s people,otherwise to sum it he is already cursed in short
Mr cosmo Mumba…Oh!Sorry Doc Mumba.so I hear nd thats a nice salutation for our educated politician….bravo! Hahahaha! at least you ‘ve made a comment to push yr dead up.keep it up boss…bakamba the only sad thing is you fighting a losing battle….THE ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH GOD SEES HIS PEOPLE AS A SPECIAL. PROPERTY TO HIM THATS WHY HE WENT ON TO PROMISE THEM THAT:(any weapon formed aganist you wont proper)Isaiah 55:11..So
my only advice to you Doc don’t waste your breath on thiese people.gud de
MUMBA FOR YOUR OWN INFORMATION LEVY MWANAWASA USED TO BE A JEHOVAH’S WITNESS. BUT, THE MOMENT HE JOINED AND STARTED PRACTICING POLITICS WITH A RESPONSIBILITY IN POLITICS, THAT WAS THE END OF HIS BEING JEHOVAH’S WITNESS. HE WASN’T TO BE TOLD TO QUIT. HE KNEW TOO WELL THAT JW PRINCIPLES IS THAT ONE CAN NOT SERVE TWO MASTERS. JW SERVE ONLY ONE MASTER AND THAT IS JEHOVAH GOD HIMSELF. BUT, DON’T BE MISLED- JW ARE RESPECTERS OF NOT ONLY POLITICAL LEADERS BUT ANY ONE IN AUTHORITY WHETHER IN THE DOMESTIC HOME, AT WORK OR SCHOOL BUT WILL NEVER BOW TO ANY INTIMIDATION. IF YOU ARE IN DOUBT ASK THE US GOVERNMENT AND KENNETH KAUNDA.
Why is this Cosmo chap given news. The chap is rotten, no brain in between the two ears
Aba nibosalila ai
I feel pity for his ignorance while he thinks he lead Zambia, the truth he is sick mentally. First of all which school did he go to, he certificates needs to be verified he does not even know how to calculate voter apathy he thinks it calculated on the population in all. Poor devil may God deliver you
Ladies and Gentlemen, allow me to close the debate on this topic. I feel pity for all of you people for responding to a MAD person. You don’t answer back a when a MAN person is barking. You just keep quite and ignore.
ba chi tawala…ba fulwa…lol
cosmo should know how power these CULTS are…they pretend not to vote but there the same policy makers..just stupid beliefs
MWAPOLENI BA MUMBA
MUKWAI NA BABELENGE AMALEMBO YALI PE SAMBA PAKUTI BAMONE UOTULINGILE UKULAIMBILA ULWIMBO LYA CISHIPA
1.UKUFUMA 20 vs1-6
2.ESAYA 42 vs8
3.ESAYA 43 VS10
4.SEFANIA 2 vs3,8-11
5.AMALUMBO 145 vs18-21
6.UKUSOKOLOLA 4 vs 11
YEHOVA ABA MUPEPI KUBA MULUMBANYA MU CINE NA MUCISHINKA,LELO ABA KU TALI KUBA PONTELA BUMULOPWE BWAKE NA BANTU BAKWE.
This guy is a serious joke
My older brothers were expelled from school for refusing to sing the national anthem and salute the flag on account of being Jehova’s witness. Thank God they all became managers
The government’s requirement in Malawi was simply a law to hold a political membership card.
It is bad enough that the Governing Body misused the “word of God” to set the Malawian brothers up for murder. Worse however is to find out that they applied a different standard to Witnesses in other countries and especially to themselves.
Mexico;
At the same time that Witnesses were forbidden to hold a card in Malawi a comparable situation arose in Mexico, with the Governing Body ruling in the opposite direction for Mexican brothers. In Mexico, military service was compulsory for young men. On completion of service young men would receive a “Cartilla” card, which similar to the card in Malawi, was required for a transactions such as obtaining a passport and drivers license.
Young Witness brothers experienced persecution and imprisonment for refusing their obligation to attend military service.
In order to relieve this suffering, the Governing Body ruled that it was acceptable for Mexican brothers to bribe officials to obtain a government Cartilla card that exempted them from military service.
It is interesting that for Mexico it could be justified that holding a governmental card through bribery is acceptable, since it allowed the brothers to continue in “theocratic activities”, yet obtaining a political card legally in Malawi was not acceptable even though it would have allowed the same freedoms.
In 1969, a second letter was sent from Mexico to the Brooklyn Bethel for further clarification, noting this time that not only was bribery required but that the brothers holding a cartilla card were then recognised to be in the first reserve of the Mexican military, a situation that would normally result in disassociation. Brooklyn confirmed that it was still acceptable to obtain and hold the Cartilla card.
Malawian Witnesses were hypocritically forced to uphold a higher standard than was expected of those in Mexico, or by the Governing Body themselves.
How does it feel dancing on the graves of hundreds of murdered JW’s in Malawi? Do you feel brave? What have you done with your life that gives you the right to mock their sacrafice? You should be ashamed of yourself…
Draft Classification Card
Registering for the Draft and registering with a Political Party are totally different.
Beware of the propaganda baiting of apostates.
Comment:Mr Mumba ………Remember Hitler in Germany!!! Him also wanted sweep out all Jehovah’s witnesses in the world.Plz Cosmo!!!!!!! Learn something from that man.Maybe, you,,, find your self, fighting with Jehovah God not Jehovah’ witnesses.