MMD President Nevers Mumba has said that he does not think there is need for anyone to attach conditions for participating in the national prayer and fasting scheduled for the 18th October.
Dr. Mumba said that if a prayer meeting is called, such as the one President Edgar Lungu has called, it is up to an individual to attend or not.
Dr. Mumba told Qfm News that this is why he thinks there is no need to make a big deal out of the declaration of the national day of prayer and fasting by President Lungu.
He has however, disclosed that his party will this week on Friday, 9th October discuss the issue more comprehensively by considering the demerits and merits for having such a national prayer.
Dr. Mumba states that his party wants to build a case that will help address not only the single issue of national prayer.
He notes that as party whose interest is to highlight the role of God in governance, the MMD is particularly happy that it has been given this opportunity to deal with a subject that is of concern to it.
Yesterday the opposition United Party for National Development (UPND) gave government four conditions to meet before party members can attend the much talked about national day of prayer and fasting scheduled for October 18th, 2015.
UPND Special Assistant to the President Edward Mumbi has told QFM News in an interview that the party had not refused to go for the program but that they want the PF Government to address certain issues before showing up at the program.
Mr. Mumbi said that it was important that the government clearly indicates how the lives of the people will be safeguarded during that event considering that there has been indiscriminate use of fire arms by PF cadres.
Mr. Mumbi believed that the life of the UPND Leader and other people maybe in danger if this issue is not carefully addressed.
Mr. Mumbi said that other conditions that the government should meet is to tell the nation the way forward concerning the constitution making process which he says there is no clear roadmap in coming up with the new supreme law of the land.
Mr. Mumbi said that other issues that need to be addressed are violence and insulting opposition leaders by PF cadres.
Mr. Mumbi has emphasized that the PF have been mocking the people of Zambia for a long period of time now and there is no need of sitting with them.
Mr. Mumbi quoted Psalms 1:1 which says “Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked or stand in the way that sinners take or sit in the company of mockers”, saying it is difficult for the party to associate with the PF because of they have mocked Zambians.
Mr. Mumbi said that if the above conditions are met, then party members will not have difficulties to be part of the proceedings.
Well done NM spoken like a true leader I think the focus is NOT the ECONOMY! Its reconciliation!
Reconciliation, who is divided? The PF and MMD. Nevers Mumba need that player day so he gets his lost sheep RB’s team from trigger happy PF.
Is Kabimba attending those prayers too?
I thought a former pastor would perform better as a politician as he would come with sincerity, honesty, truthfulness and fairness. Instead of changing the way politics is done in Zambia, politics is instead changing him and tomorrow no one will tell the difference between him and Davis Chama. His new style is pathetic to say the least for a man of God.
Can PF and Edgar clearly spell out what and with who they intend to reconcile? I will be the happiest is Edgar will apologise to the Zambian people for taking them for granted; e.g creation of new ministries when GRZ is broke; abuse of the Public Order Act; blacking out opposition on ZNBC; PF cadre violence.He could do well to apologise on behalf of Mumbi Phiri, Davies Chama and Chishimab Kambwili. That really should be a good start and we shall all see that he means well.
Edward Mumbi….????
I Find This Message Of Dr Mumba Contrasting Each Other, Infact Contrasting Each Each Not Each Other,, Unity Is What We Pray For Every Day And Thats Why Southern Is Peaceful Despite Insults Frm The President And His Party, Western Province Is Peaceful Also, For Me I Wil Pray That God Shud Bridle The Tongues Of U Politicians, But Again Thats Not God’s Responsibility, SALVATION PRAYER FOR THE NATION IS IDEAL, IT IS ZAMBIA SHALL BE SAVED
Only satanic people will give conditions and the can go to he’ll. For sure ECL has brought more harm than good to the economy but inciting people to shun prayers is unheard off.
Too much superstition in Zambia and Politicians are making it worse using the tool of propaganda, and of course the fearful, ignorant and gullible easily fall for it.While Progressive Countries are advancing and the quality of life for their citizens is improving, Zambia is still engaged in superstition.
Interestingly Ther Is No Church Called Upnd Or Pf Or Fdd Or Mmd Etc, We Ar All Coming Frm Churches And Prayer Is Hot Cake For Any Church, We All Trust Our Psts Than Politicians, Well If We Want Non Believers To Pray Then They Ve To Be Converted Otherwise We Wil Ve Pipo With H\o Making The Loudest Noise, H,H Is A Christian Am Told, Unless He Is A Double Sim
..is Nevers ok..?? I doubt it….he is talking about his party meeting to discuss demerits and merits of having such a national prayer….I thought as a clergy man himself he must be the last person to think that such prayers will have any demerits other than all about merits…staunch believers believe that any prayer no matter how short…is full of merits and nothing else….if he talks of demerits and merits is just as good as putting up conditions because they may demand for the demerits to be addressed prior to the so called national prayer
Well said NM. The call for national prayer and fasting should not be a forcing matter, nor name calling, neither meant to get at each other’s throat, let alone, calling those that shall not attend as not well meaning Zambians or working for the devil. “Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast”. “But thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly”. Matt 6: 16 & 18. One could already tell how publicly those that shall attend be praised on ZNBC.
NM, first shoot, and then, (after missing target by mile or more) try to think?
Yes, No, Maybe?!?
ON THE SABBATH 17/10 WE SHALL REST AND WORSHIP OUR GOD.
ON SUNDAY THE 18/10 YOU SHALL WORSHIP YOUR NATION YOUR GOD.
Nevers Mumba just behaves like a vulture waiting for an animal to die so that he can eat from the carcass. I have stopped understanding him. It is true; he must just go back to preaching. He has failed in politics. He is looking for a job in PF but hitting on hard rock. Maybe he should just ask HH to give him some job at one of his farms. It seems he is becoming bitter about HH’s better performance politically. So he wants people not to think but just go there without reading the motives behind.
May we have the prayer points and reasons why our econoomy has deteriorated so rapidly in the last 6months?May we know what has terribly gone wrong for us to pray effectively.Which God are we praying to since we are not sure of the religion of one who has called for these prayers.I concur with mr Mumbi on PSALM 1V1.Pls lets have some issues resolved for us to conduct public prayer AGREEMENT IS CRITICAL.
When I read about HH’s negative comment about this day I was glad because I also subscribe to his reasoning. But when the reaction started from all over, I started to think HH had made a serious political mistake which will be costly politically as this issue has given the PF some ammunition to shield themselves away from the current condemnation by the masses over the increased hardship people are facing and also the extravagance of the president viz the new York trip. But then alas I realise that this is actually very good for HH and UPND as it will soon expose Edgar Lungu and the PF ’s insincerity about this prayer day. Actually they are already approaching courts today to have the Kasama by-election instead of avoiding it to save money and the economy. Are they really sincere with…
Does reconciliation mean opposition parties stopping to provide checks and balances? If that is the case then go back to one party state which the PF has been calling for? As long as there is multi-partism political differences will continue to manifest. The PF was doing it until they beat MMD to submission. Just look at what is happening in the US at present. Currently both the Congress and Senate are under the control of the Republican party but we have yet to hear Americans call for a day of prayer for reconciliation between the Republican and Democratic parties. What has kept America stable is good strong clear laws and public institutions which can operate regardless of who is in the White House. There is no wastage of taxpayers money that goes unnoticed and unpunished. There are no…
Does reconciliation mean opposition parties stopping to provide checks and balances? If that is the case then go back to one party state which the PF has been calling for? As long as there is multi-partism political differences will continue to manifest. The PF was doing it until they beat MMD to submission. Just look at what is happening in the US at present. Currently both the Congress and Senate are under the control of the Republican party but we have yet to hear Americans call for a day of prayer for reconciliation between the Republican and Democratic parties. What has kept America stable is good strong clear laws and public institutions which can operate regardless of who is in the White House.
There is no wastage of taxpayers money that goes unnoticed and unpunished. There are no Chamas, Mumbis, Kaizers in Obama’s administration. They just cannot exist as the system will immediately eject them, most likely empty them straight into jail.
We chose multiparty democracy and that is what it entails. The only problem is lack of understanding of what politics is about. There should be no question of hate and all that stuff. Just defend your party policies and prove to Zambians that those policies stand a better chance of improving their lives. That is all.
Stop comfusing people. What has been set is the day of prayer and fasting and why, not how and where you are to pray from. Prayer is not for non believers who do not know God (2 choronicles 7 v 14), so there is no reason to ague with anyone. It is the church to carry out this program. We can pray from churches, We can pray from fellowships in our work places you can pray from you house What is important is to pray and fast. Political parties can not conduct prayer meetings because they dont exist fot that.
We prayed for rain during Kaunda’s reign and the heavens refused to bucket it down! Now here we go again, praying for a stop to load shedding as though it was god who engineered it! Something has to be very wrong with the collective Zambian mind when it come to electing leaders, always going for the most damn thick of them all!
Shallow minds, you Zambians are. Be sure that God will not answer your silly jokes and games about his name. He does not operate in vanity things. Miss using his name to is to bring a curse upon yourself.Don’t waste God’s time. A nation of brainwashed failures. These things called Zambians. Be warned you pretenders.
The Lord’s prayer has conditions. …forgive us our sins as we forgive those … against us. Reconciliation with God and man first is more important that prayers. Note that righteousness is more important that a prayer.
Sunday is welcome for all except SDA who may hold theirs on 17th.
This should not be a blame game, we need to support each others even for those praying privately at home. God actually listens to such prayers.
My opinion.
Can anyone give me a theological reason and cite examples from the bible for the national prayer and fasting day? What kind of fasting does God require of us? Zambia is in spiritual darkness because the clergy can not explain how God operates. Do not use the Lord’s name in vain for political mileage. How many prosperous countries conduct such events?
Zambians are so easy to fool, Chiluba knocked them off with the christian nation trick, now lungu is deflecting attention from the real issues by calling for a national prayer, why do people have to use God for their political gains, and all of a sudden there is commotion about the prayer…didnt PK Chishala’s message in the Song Pole Pole mean anything to these hypocrites??? and if i may ask, what is the reconciliation all about, who is divided?? because if its the parties, we are in a democracy..God is always with us people, get back to work and take responsibility.
“He notes that as party whose interest is to highlight the role of God in governance,…”
Zambia is not a theocracy. This unnecessary churchification of Zambia is hurting us. There is a need for the separation of church and state.