Movement for Multiparty Democracy (MMD) Nevers Mumba has said that the the alliance with the PF will be based on mutual understanding and not on the issue of the running mate.
Dr Mumba also said there is no time for the MMD to hold a national convention before the August 11 general elections.
Responding to questions from journalists here yesterday, Dr Mumba said he will meet President Lungu to discuss various issues before finally entering into an alliance with the PF.
He, however, said it would be premature to discuss the details of what the MMD will put on the table before meeting President Lungu.
Dr Mumba assured members that national executive committee (NEC) members resolved to work with PF ahead of the general elections.
“It is important to inform you that all the 53 NEC members are united and no-one will move us from our focused position,” Dr Mumba said.
He contends that no single political party can win the general elections with a majoritarian vote without seeking alliances
Dr Mumba said he has decided to take tours across the country to mobilise and consult party members on the way forward before the 2016 elections.
He also explained that once he meets President Lungu and the two agree on the alliance, he will then meet the NEC members and explain to them what is on the table and thereafter two committees will be formed to harmonise how the parties will work together.
Addressing his supporters on arrival at Kasama Airport, Dr Mumba said those who are calling for a national convention are bent on dividing the MMD before the general elections.
He said he is not afraid of the national convention but only feared that the party will be divided before the August 11 elections.
“How can we go to the convention with only a few months before the general elections? It means that the party will go into an election divided and those calling for that do not mean well for the party,” Dr Mumba said
He has also dismissed assertions by Lunte member of Parliament Felix Mutati that he had agreed to work with the United Party for National Development before last year’s presidential election.
Sorry to say I have never seen a man so gullible.
Mumba and MMD falling in Lungu’s snare. Pastor these crooks will dribble you.
The chap is SO DESPERATE he can’t READ THE MOOD OF THE PEOPLE & HE DOESN’T BLO..ODY MIND WHAT PF have done to HIM & MMD!!
Carry on : “THE PIED PIPER” , lead the RATS OFF THE CLIFF!!!
….for 30 pieces of silver judas Nevers Escariot sells the MMD to PF
This Pastor REALLY HAS EXEMPLARY EXPERIENCE IN SELLING HIS HEART & SOUL TO THE DEVIL, lets keep counting!!
PF did hold a convention within weeks of elections!
Aba bena niba Judas Iscariot.He can do anything for ’30 pieces of silver’.
Why is Nevers getting so worked up if he only got a text message from Lungu about the alliance? It looks like his imagination is running ahead of him. And how can be claim that his NEC members are united when a lot of them dispute his version of the outcomes from the meeting? Were these NEC members and Nerves in two separate meetings?
A few days ago I was apologizing to Dr Mumba for being harsh on him. I had said “What thirty pieces of silver can do to a ‘Man of God'”. I was hoping that he would prove everyone wrong that he is indeed a man of integrity. Unfortunately, this man has zero integrity.
First he abandoned the Church, then he ditched the Christian party for a position of Veep, Levy fired him for challenging the him (Levy) and for talking large, then he went to steal the position from RB on MMD, and now he is ready to sell MMD to PF for 30 pieces of silver!! People like Dr Mumba make me sick. No wonder many people dont want to be Christians because of such fake men of God!
Mr Mutati, please snatch MMD from Dr Mumba. This man (Mumba) has no good morals.
correction… for challenging him (Levy)…
So what’s the purpose of being called a man of God when you exhibit no moral principles at all? This Nevers Mumba is a disgrace!!!
He can not even condemn the violence and people think they can trust this man who masquerades like he is some holy man.
Mumba says there is NO TIME to organise a national convention before the August 11 general elections????
Really? What is he saying here? SIX MONTHS IS NOT ENOUGH?????
Obviously this man is totally incompetent if that is beyond his capabilities. And he wants to be in GOVERNMENT? We have had enough incompetence already from PF. We do not need any more INCOMPETENCE!
We need a real Government that can plan and do the job, not more excuses and procrastination like this.
Are we still at sms level or are they talking?
THAT IS NEVERS MUMBA FOR YOU. I LONG COMMENTED ON THIS PLATFORM SOME YEARS BACK, DESCRIBING NEVERS MUMBA FOR WHO HE REALLY IS. THIS GUY IS AN OPPORTUNIST. PERIOD!
Nevers Mumba doesn’t care about winning or losing. All he cares is about the funds that will be released by PF to MMD for campaigns which are enough to bail him out of his financial doldrums for life. Mind you the Pf has gotten hundreds of millions of dollars of kaloba for campaigns disguised as development funds.
Mumba is it not this party which locked you up on the belt? Is not PF which tear gassed you in Petauke? Is it not PF which went it alone with RB and almost unseating you as the president of that party? Is it not PF which wanted MMD deregistered? Who supported you through all these difficult times? Most likely you have no answers to any of the above questions. This is the biggest problem this country has, having leaders with no moral campus whatsoever. Now PF is a darling because they are offering bread, egg and butter to Mumba.
“He contends that no single political party can win the general elections with a majoritarian vote without seeking alliances”.
BA MUMBA UBU BUFI. PF WILL WIN THIS YEAR’S ELECTIONS WITH OR WITHOUT GETTING INTO ANY ALLIANCE WITH ANY PARTY. FOR ME THAT IS YOUR EXIT STRATEGY FROM MMD PRESIDENCY WHICH COMES WITH A JOB OFFER. WE CAN READ THROUGH YOUR LINES. YOU KNOW YOURSELF TOO WELL THAT AFTER ELECTIONS YOU WILL HAVE NO JOB. SO, THE BEST THING YOU ARE DOING FOR YOURSELF IS FIND A JOB NOW IN THE PRETEXT NAME OF, “NO SINGLE PSRTY CAN WIN…”. REALLY, ARE YOU UNDERRATING WHAT PF HAS DONE ON INFRASTRUCTURE +++?
Out of curiosity I would like to know what happened to his Zambia shall be saved Ministry. This guy is one slimy snake, he’s screwed people up everywhere hes been time and time again, his evil mind only knows 3 words- me, my and I.
As a condition for the alliance, he has been instructed to go around the country campaigning for PF. Once all the MMD voters have been convinced to vote for PF, he’ll be ditched and told PF is not going into any alliance. By then it will be too late to tell the voters to vote for MMD. Instead they’ll all vote for UPND in protest against Mumba and PF.
At this point. I wouldn’t mind if R.B was president. At least all he did was fly to his farm in chipata every weekend but did a great job at keeping the miners at work, did not borrow irresponsibly. Our country has gone to Dogs! It’s a big shame.
RB did not need to borrow. He was happy with free shares from investors and fat brown envelopes!!!
The fact remains RB had a stable economy under his watch than we have seen under Sata and Lungu. RB was a far much better president than the two. The courts acquitted him of all corruption cases so if you have unearthed fresh evidence, take it to ACC or to the DPP
Dogs have come into our country
This man is a dangerous and desperate opportunist.
“Dogs have come into our country..”
@vincent Munalula, where do you guys get some of these sayings..!?
Dr. Mumba you ar the man. Let these buffoons hate you but yours is a just cause. All of these buffoons insulting u are only interested in seeing u join forces with upnd and they will praise u to the last. But since u ar not for them, and sensing that they will lose the election without MMD supportn them, now they ar busy insulting u. Stand the grounds Dr. And there is a bright light at the end of it all. Viva PF and Viva MMD. We are retiring one kachema for good this time around.
What mutual understanding ba mumba? In the current set up an alliance in the 1st round means one party won’t run for the presidency in the polls, so what will you settle for?
Your constitution says a convention will be held every five years & each fifth year is an election year, so do you intend to amend your constitution.
@itizi turu,they had a convention in 2012 after general elections in 2011 so 5 years will be in 2017!! He is right! Those who want it otherwise have recourse to the law!
What they had in 2012 is an extra ordinary conference that was called to replace the president after RB stepped down. An ordinary conference which is due this year & elects the full NEC as well as create policy guidance for the subsequent five years is what the other group is calling for.
So the MMD only exists to support other parties. what a shame!
UPND is feeling it. You can cheat some pipo but not all the pipo. Why should something good be described as bad just becoz it is coming from your oponent. HH cant do better than PF. Its a blessing to have pipo like Mumba. Its God who spoke to you mumba.
Blessing to have double crossing Judas Nevers as Bishop or as political h00ker?
UPND can not feel it Mumba is going alone with few MPs to PF.Most MPs are in Western,N western and Central theses will follow HH.So who has the deal Lungu or HH?
He is so stubborn on this issue. Just how much has Edgar Lungu promised him? It must be a lot of cash in his pocket, because essentially he is selling MMD to PF with no conditions attached. So if PF wins, what will happen to MMD and Nevers Mumba?
It would have been a different story it was UPND-PF than PF -MMD , let us support the move of MMD – election is about winning especially that you are convinced that the policies of another party adheres to yours. Actually, let us accept that PF come from MMD and it is just going to cement themselves to be able to serve the nation. UPND should continue poaching members that would make you help.
Zambian politics! Not so long ago, Nevers Mumba was castigating PF leadership after he was teargassed. What has changed ba Nevers apart from seeing yourself and some MMD NEC members holding high political positions in the PF-MMD alliance? The sad part is for the Senior PF members who will be replaced by MMD members in leadership positions.
If MMD decided to form an alliance with UPND, i doubt UPND cadres would demonize and insult Dr Nervers Mumba as much as they are doing right now. FACT.
@William Tekere – You have a point. Yes, it would have been better because both MMD and UPND are opposition parties (they are opposing PF). MMD forming an alliance with any of the opposition parties would have been better, not with PF. Unless of course Dr Mumba doesn’t understand what it means to be in opposition!!! Im not an RB fun, but at this point, I think RB should take back MMD or Mutati must lead MMD.
Exactly. That’s identity. Their language speaks louder how demonic some people can be. Want to demonize Nevers because he has chosen to work with PF rather than UPND
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It would have been a different story had been UPND-PF merging than PF -MMD , let us support the move of MMD move– election is about winning especially that you are convinced that the policies of another party adheres to yours. Actually, let us accept that PF come from MMD and it is just going back to cement themselves to be able to serve the nation. UPND should continue poaching members that would hem win the election.
“…He said he is not afraid of the national convention but only feared that the party will be divided before the August 11 elections…”
Party “…will be divided…”???
Nevers, open your eyes. MMD has died under your inept guidance
It is very clear that MMD cannot win the election on its own. Dr. Mumba has acknowledged. The MMD Party is already divided whether it goes to convention or not. The fight is between PF and UPND. It is very possible that a single political party can win the general elections with a majoritarian vote without seeking alliances. Under MMD government the economy did not collapse but corruption was very high. It is also not true that PF government has done absolutely nothing or that UPND is tribal. We have seen how PF has ruled and we have not seen how UPND will rule. Without fear or favor, what HH presented at Mining Indaba, Cape Town, RSA is the only way Zambia can grow economy successfully. Any party which will be elected in 2016, if it implement what HH said at Mining Indaba will drive…
@Michael Bwalya,this is a very balanced posting. I enjoy such because the purpose the media is to inform us and not turn us into party cadres but give us chance to inform our opinions and when we choose to comment we should be objective. I wish many posting could do it this way and our online media sites could have been sources of good debates and informed opinions! kudos!!
At all political costs PF must be returned to power this year.
After all these years of Dr. Mumba’s involvement in politics, it is very clear he should stayed in the church!
Desperate Mumba is seeking political relevance by all means.
Note that MMD is treading carefully here. They know that on their own they would lose the Presidency as well as a lot of parliamentary seats, if not all. Now with PF on their side, they stand to gain.
Remember the only party that poses a great challenge in MMD’s strongholds is PF, therefore going into an alliance with the latter will be a big plus in as far as MMD’s future is concern. Once this alliance is in force, I dont see PF fielding their own candidates in MMD strongholds Visa vis MMD doing so in PF strongholds. In short, it will remain strong with a good number of MPs to support it financially and otherwise.
Comment: The fight is between PF and upnd. So why should it worry you if MMD joins PF?
AS MUCH AS SOME OF US SEE THIS MOVE AS BETRAYAL OF THE PEOPLE BY MUMBA, WE RESPECT HIS INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO BACK WHATEVER PARTY HE CHOOSES TO SUPPORT IN THE DORTH COMING ELECTION. NEVERS AND FRANK BWALYA WILL FOREBER BE KNOWN AS THE “ISCARIOT PASTORS”. THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF MMD STILL HAVE THIER RIGHTS TO DO THE RIGHT THING. NEVERS HAS SHOWN TO BE A COWARD. FIRST OF ALL HE IS AFRAID OF HOLDING A CONVENTION TO LIGITMISE HIS POSITION AND SECONDLY HE HAS NO AGENDA HENCE HE HAS ALLOWED MMD TO BE A BARGAINING CHIP. MMD UNDER NEVERS HAS BEEN A CHICKEN WITH NO HEAD. GO WELL JUDAS MAY YOUR DAYS BE BLESSED. YOUNG MILES IS BRAVER THAN THESE FAKE PASTORS. BETTER TO LOSE STANDUNG ON TRUTH AND PRINCIPAL THAN BETRAY THE PEOPLE FOR SELF GAIN. NERVERS WILL WALK ALONE.
When is HH going to allow a convention in UPND?
THIS SERVES TO INFORM ALL GULLIBLE CHRISTIANS THAT WHILE YOU HAD YOUR EYES CLOSED IN PRAYER YOUR PASTORS NEVERS AND FRANK BWALYA WERE BUSY THINKING OF HOW TO SERVE THIER OWN INTERESTS. NEVERS USED TO HOLD FAKE CRUSADES AND PRAYER GATHERINGS AT UNZA AND CBU. TODAY INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING THE YOUNG STUDENTS BEING MISTREATED BY THIS GOVERNMENT HE HAS CHOSEN TO ENDORSE, INFACT SIGNED ON TO BE PART OF THE PERPETUATORS OF THE UNZA AND CBU INJUSTICE. ATI PASTORS!!!! PASTOR? FINE LETS SEE HOW FAR THIS MOCKERY OF GOD WILL TAKE YOU. GODS CHILDREN ARE BEING MISTREATED AND THE THE ISCARIOT PASTORS ARE IN FULL SUPPORT.
PF and MMD together. UPND should begin campaigning for local government positions.
MMD please tell this man to go to PF alone your party is doomed. Can someone tell me what has changed with PF’s incompetence leadership for this man to associate with them few months before the general elections?
Kikiki UPND is scared of losing.leave Mumba alone.We’ll kolopa you.They wanted Mumba to support HH oops jst swallow yo bitter pill.Things have started happening n u’ll lose terribly.terribly. Nega nega formula this time around.jst sort ou the GMB n Banda saga.ifwe ni kolopa.Our strong holds still intact.Miles sampa won’t be entertained in bemba speaking pipo untill after 2016 elections.Maybe he may have a chance in 2021.As at now we don’t want to split votes n give chance to HH.ulubemba lwalicenjela mukamona ifyo PF ikakolopa.
@MOSCOW WHAT BITTER PILL? NEVERS HAS BETRAYED THE VERY PEOPLE HE IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT. WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE UNZA AND CBU INJUSTICES? HOW CAN HE SUPPORT WHAT LUNGU IS DOUNG ANS CLAIM TO BE A MAN OF GOD? ANYONE IS TO SWALLOW A PILL IT SHOULD BE MUMBA. HE NEEDS TO SWALLOW A PILL OF GODS WORD. NEVERS SHOULD BE STANDING FOR THE PEOPLE INTEAD HE HAS TAKEN A BRIBE AND DECIDED TO BETRAY US. HOW CAN HE SUPPORT WHAT LUNGU HAS DONE TO THOSE CBU AND UNZA STUDENTS. WHAT MAN OF GOD WOULD SUPPORT THE PHARISEES THAT CAUSE SUCH SUFFERING?
Proof that PF is a purely ONE tribe party by honest.post.@Moscow(OP):
……..Our strong holds still intact.Miles sampa won’t be entertained in BEMBA speaking pipo untill after 2016 elections.Maybe he may have a chance in 2021.As at now we don’t want to split votes n give chance to HH. ULUBEMBA lwalicenjela mukamona ifyo PF ikakolopa.
End of quote.
And.my response to well meaning.and non tribal Bemba family member is to abhor and refuse the hegemony championed by such charlatans.
Liable, Ngoni, Kaonde, Tumbuka, Lenje, ……you have heard ati ULUBEMBA LWALICENJELA….
It will be based on your ball****s sitan***ko
But Nevers is speaking facts. Why can’t those who are disgruntled just leave the party? It is clear that there is no future for the MMD except to merge.
The MMD has been split and therefore Dr. Mumba is forming an alliance with a fraction of his party following. From any given logistical angle, that fraction will be composed of people of no reason. PF fought hard to dislodge MMD from power, on account of corruption, social and economic mismanagement of affairs of the nation. What has really changed within five years, apart from an acceleration of the same negative fundamentals by the PF government. The saying “birds of the same feather fly together” is true in this alliance. It is good that the alliance succeeds so that Zambians can get rid of these outspent political turncoats on Aug. 11.
So what of the same corrupt MMD and PF elements that have joined UPND? The Watchdog told us in graphic detail the extent of GBM’s corruption when he was Defence Minister. Should we bury those allegations because he is now in UPND? Also should we forget about the DBZ nkongole and Membe’s tax dodging because HH has grovelled to him?
@Pascal
Since you are more logical than all of us here, what are you saying? That MMD as a whole disband or should they join UPND to become more holy and less of thieving nature?
It’s worth to look at your argument from another angle from yours and you clearly are not very good at being unbiased.
I think you need to be more a Critical Thinker than merely a Logical one. Must investigate all elements before concluding. MMD are better off with a Proven and improved PF under HE Lungu.
Are the following people members of the MMD NEC : Musokotwane, Chituwo, Lungwangwa, Keembe? If they are then Mumba is not telling the truth when he says all 53 members of the NEC have agreed that MMD should go into an alliance with PF. Everyone knows that those four, and probably many others, are not for the MMD-PF alliance. This pastor is lying through his teeth.
Its a good move if Nevers Mumba is talking from the bottom of his heart. Going into an alliance with a pre condition for a running mate. Its sounds good on the surface. I can see more problems in the MMD ahead of 11th August 2016 General Elections. People go into alliances in return for certain benefits and this is what is bothering the general membership in MMD as they are seeing Mumba trying by all means to get the lion’s share from the planned alliance with PF.
People wanted to do away with MMD in 2011 even though we chose Sata a former member of MMD. But in the recent times we have witnessed the appointment of former ruling party into govt positions and consolidating themselves in PF. We understood there was no alliance and yet we have seen the likes of Dora Siliya losing her petition and coming out strong as a PF member of parliament. In UPND we are seeing the similar things happening and yet people continue saying we are tired of recycled politicians. Nevers Mumba has been around and he has failed to effectively unite MMD, thanks to RB. My point is we have politicians with no morals and they will always align themselves were they can get some butter. I do not know wha the MMD, PF or even UPND stand for politically. Politicians are simply busy…
Politicians are simply busy confusing their staunch followers and the electorate!
Finally, somebody who sees what Zambian politics for what it is. There all a bunch of opportunistic scu.mbags who stand for nothing and the Zambian electorate just sits on the sidelines either getting excited when one moves to the party that they support or condemn if the opposite happens. What is worrying is that people seem to accept this sad state of affairs I mean bashi Nono moving from UPND to PF to UPND, or Miles Sampa jumping the PF ship without being to clearly articulate why and what his party will do differently if elected.
This gives pf a head start in the race, upnd bloggers are worried, this might just see pf bounce back into power. Two heads are better than one. Upnd you need to step up your game otherwise this will be the last nail in your coffin, you need an alliance as well if you want to win these elections, you can’t do it by yourselves, it’s not possible.
@Spider
Your advice to ba UPND is timely….they.CANNOT win.alone.
This just proves why his fellow pastors do not give him support because Nevers Mumba can not be trusted it is all about him and good life.
SELF-SERVING PASTOR/POLITICIAN. THAT IS NEVERS MUMBA FOR YOU. ZAMBIANS PLEASE LISTEN. MMD AND PF ARE INDEED ONE TEAM OF CROOKS AND LOOTERS. NEVERS MUMBA HAS NEVER BEEN SERIOUS IN GIVING ZAMBIANS THE MUCH NEEDED ECONOMIC FREEDOM. NEVERS MUMBA IS A RECYCLED POLITICIAN. AT ONE TIME, MUMBA WAS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE LAND, DID HE BRING FORTH RADICLE PROPOSALS TO THE PRESIDENT THEN AIMED AT EMPOWERING THE ZAMBIAN CITIZENRY? NEVER! HAVE YOU EVER HEARD ANY COMMENT FROM MUMBA CONDEMNING CORRUPTION BY POLITICAL LEADERS IN OFFICE? NEVER! WHAT THEN MAKES YOU THINK THAT NEVERS MUMBA CAN BE ONE OF THE GOOD LEADERS IN THE COUNTRY? MUMBA HAS BEEN BENEFITING OVER THE YEARS FROM THE ABUSE OF THE NATIONAL TREASURY. REMEMBER NEVERS MUMBA’S FINANCIAL SCANDAL AND GROSS MISMANAGEMENT OF RESOURCES WHEN HE AT ONE…
Leave Mumba alone, what’s your problem? These Mutatis you are praising today abandoned the party when it was almost being deregistered but Mumba fought tooth and nail and cleaned up the mess. Mutati at that time was busy following after HH and left Mumba to mobilise and stabilise the party from hands greedy hands of RB and crew. For your own information, the man was voted in 2012 and according to the MMD manifesto, a full term of office is 5 years so the next convention should come in 2017….
Not too long ago (4 years to be exact) Zambians rose up and booted the den of thieves (MMD) out power. Then shockingly they deliberately voted an even more corrupt and evil PF govt. Now these two evil organisations (MMD and PF) are openly regrouping to work together in govt. What do you think will happen to the economy? Are Zambians going to be cold-blooded and hand over power to MMD/PF? Then they don’t know what they want and probably deserve the poverty that has been dished out to them. But I do hope they are resolved to hand power to a deserving party with the know-how to steer Zambia to prosperity.
former pastor..njala yanyokola..kekeke
All the negative comments by UPNDers is a nice side order for my breakfast meal! Woke up with a smile! Poor UPND they are foaming at the mouth. Despite what they write you can tell they now understand the remoteness of winning! What I advise PF to do is to give Dr Mumba the Red Carpet treatment. Give him a temporary office at State House…and a nice Limo to take him a out. Dr Mumba is a man of God even if he dabbles in power. Nothing wrong with that (especially since he ears towards PF). I mean, Kings David, Solomon, Moses; were they not Men of a God, yet Lead God’s people even as God formed the Ten Commandments? This a most auspicious moment in Zambia’s Spiritual Life. God is fortifying and guarding this country that has openly Declared Him throughout the Land and World. Dr…
Dr Mumba will receive his Blessings of Power to effect a strong nation and a goodness will increase in the Land. The Devil and his disciples shall be locked up for political eternity. Dr Mumba receive this message and ask in your heart if you have not heard God’s message to you. You wonderful, awesomely made Man of a God. Release healing in this Land by working with God’s chosen Man President Lungu. Hear these words that I have spiritually discerned for you and President a Lungu. I am never wrong, for I deliver what I receive in the spirit. YOU ARE THE WINNING TEAM. RELEASE YOUR BLESSINGS, STEP UP TO LEADERSHIP! In Jesus Name, Amen
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!
Well spoken. UPND so scared. Its okay for GBM, william banda, Sichinga etc to join UPND, not not anybody going the opposite, he is called names and demonized.
YOUR COMMENT IS HIGHLY HYPOCRITICAL, YOU KNOW IT DEEP DOWN IN YOUR HEART THAT BOTH EDGAR LUNGU AND NEVERS MUMBA HAVE NO AGENDA FOR ZAMBIA, EXCEPT THAT THEY ARE SIMPLY THERE TO SERVE THEMSELVES AND THEIR VERY CLOSE RELATIVES AND FRIENDS. BUT ZAMBIA IS A LOT BIGGER THAN JUST RELATIVES AND FRIENDS TO PRESIDENT. EVERY ZAMBIAN DESERVES TO BE SERVED BETTER. EVERYONE SHOULD FEEL OWNERSHIP OF OUR COUNTRY. WE ARE NOT GOING TO SIT IDLE AND WATCH ONLY A FEW ELITE ENJOYING WHAT MOTHER ZAMBIAQ HAS TO OFFER HER OWN PEOPLE.EVERY WELL MEANING ZAMBIAN SHOULD IGNORE THIS SO-CALLED ALLIANCE. ZAMBIANS SHOULD VOTE FOR CHANGE. ZAMBIANS SHOULD VOTE FOR HH AND UPND.
@TRUTH
Forget about it! 50%+1, Is all about numbers! For today, it is right for Zambians to live in hope, expectation of PF and MMD alliance. We can call them names all we like, but even greatest Leaders have been besmirched by allegations of misuse of public funds. But, the people of Zambia have had an increase in the standard of living in spite of the poor economic conditions downplaying achievements of 2016.
And HH is a proven Capitalist that sold our mines for a so g to the lowest bidder. HH had talked Zambia down time and again in foreign media. Those are poor credentials for winning the Office of The President.
Dr Mumba, I am your fan but I am uncomfortable with you saying that you will go to discuss with President Edgar Lungu then you will brief the other NEC members. Why not go as a team to go and discuss?
It’s just for expediency. Mind you don’t literally interpret what social media stories say! I think that was put in to raise the knuckles!
HH has never gone for convention yet UPND want MMD to go for a Convetion. UPND has received Bad pipo from PF and MMD but they dont want PF to receive pipo from MMD. HH has a bad record in line with privatisation yet they still believ that he is our saviour. UPND will die in opposition if you continue being economic with truth
My thought as well…
well said pastor .ni kolopa fya. nayo nayo upnd even if you insult all is lost.
@Patriot. Government is not a profit entity which can dish out tax payer’s money for political expediency. You should be the first person to know that tax revenue have shrunk due to reduced economic activity. How do you propose that Dr. Mumba be given an office at state house. On whose expense, when students and other critical sectors are financially crippled due to lack of funding?. While you’re politicking your neighbour – Botswana and other progressive African nations are miles ahead of you, despite getting political independence earlier than them. Be objective and you will economically liberate yourself and future generations to come.
@Pascal I am extremely objective in comparison to you who obviously is advocating for the other side ( you made no critic on them in this rant, so it suggests your bias). In relation to Botswana ( there are NO Other progressive countries in Africa), I would say there advantage is in being latterly independent but having kept a colonial element were able to keep Western interest in the country. Also they have incredible natural resources from which to generate wealth. You need to do a comparator Resource wise to make a better informed critic. As for your personal comment, I suggest you improve your social media etiquette. I have a right to my opinion no matter you misguided, untruthful and mischievous comments.
As for an office for Dr Mumba, am sure that is taxable since they are joining into an alliance, thereby being one party as it were. There are public rooms for visiting dignitaries surely! PF can share that spare room and charge Dr Mumba a little rent!
I arrest my case! Just Sweeten him up!
“……..that the the alliance with the PF will be based on mutual understanding and not on the issue of the running mate.”
In the western countries, what we are calling as alliance is basically what they refer to as “Coalition” government and the discussions starts after the election and is focused on party programs, finding what the parties have in common based on their programs and what they can offer in the next period of their government.
But pa Zed, it appears coalition government is formed upfront based on “mutual understanding” of drinks with who, or who will steal with who
Zambians, Woke UP and challenge these politician what do they have to offer and hold them accountable. There is no accountability where there is no program and plan.
iyo ni sebana wikute
NEXT TIME I SEE MUMBA I WILL TURN MY BACK TOWARDS HIM TO SYMBOLIZE THE WAY HE HAS TURNED HIS BACK ON THE ZAMBIAN PEOPLE. THE ONLY CONSOLATION IS THAT THE PEOPLE IN MMD THAT WANT CHANGE NOW KNOW THAT A VOTE FOR MUMBA IS A VOTE TO CONTINUE OUR SUFFERING! SO PEOPLE OF MMD THERE YOU HAVE IT FOLLOW JUDAS OR WALK WOTH THE PEOPLE. EVEN AFTER WHAT LUNGU HAS DONE TO CBU AND UNZA HOW CAN NWVERS DO THIS. SORRY VERY MUCH TO MY FELLOW ZAMBIANS. WE DIDN’T KNOW THAT WHEN MUMBA WAS SCRWAMING “ZAMBIA SHALL BE SAVED” HE MEANT “ZAMBIA SHALL BE SOLD”!!!! ATI PASTOR? KANSHI HE IS JUST ANOTHER SELF SERVING PHARISEE DOING IT FOR HIMSELF.
@Patriot. l am not an economist, but from my little knowledge of the subject, the critical four factors of production for any nation are land, labour, capital and entrepreneurship. These factors form an equation which is very much interconnected. The land here refers to resources underground, on the surface and in the air. You need the appropriate skilled labour, financial capital and entrepreneurship to exploit the land and produce the goods of value for the local and foreign market. Of the four factors, we are endowed with land (fertile soils, abundant water, timber, minerals, favourable climate) compared to Botswana. Whereby the main source of labour are colleges and universities, they remain highly underfunded throwing the issues of diversification into jeorpardy. Where can Zambia…
Botswana is highly loaded with precious stones like diamond diamonds. The fact anyway is that Botswana is still flash from independence and have yet to experience the up and down of Zambia’s economic history. Also again it’s about investment from foreign countries, I think Botswana has been more gifted in that aspect.
In any case the matter here in this article is that Mumba expidiates the alliance and your response was to name call PF. There have been multiple Parties in power since 1964, and PF is not responsible for past.
one question Nervas Mumba, why an alliance with the PF? A party that goes against all christian values, a party filled with hate and tribalism against another tribe, a party that tear gassed you, a party that is ruling with pangas. Why not FDD or RAINBOW or UPND or any other party to get the ruling party out, thirty pieces of silver
@KUBWEKA YOU ARE SO RIGHT. I WAS ACTUALLY HOPING FOR AN FDD AND MMD ALLIANCE. UPND ALREADY HAS THE SUPPORT OF THE KEY PLAYERS IN MMD. MOST OF THE PEOPLE FROM MMD THAT ADD VALUE TO UPND HAVE ALREADY SHOWN THIER DESIRE TO WORK AND SUPPORT UPND. THE REMAINING PART OF MMD WOULD HAVE DONE BETTER TO WORK WITH FDD OR DF.INSTEAD NERVERS JUDAS MUMBA ALIGNS HIMSWLF WITH THE VERY POWERS CAUSING OUR SUFFERING. LUPANDO MWAPE, FWLIX MUTATI, STUMBEKO MUSOKOTWANE AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ADD VALUE TO UPND ARE ALREADY WITH UPND. MAYBE NOT DECLARED THIER SUPPORT BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY ESPOUSE THE ECONOMIC APPROACH THAT UPND HAS ON ITS AGENDA. IF JUDAS HAD ALIGNED WITH FDD THE TWO MMD AND FDD PLUS THE ORANGE ALLIANCE WOULD PEOVIDE A VIABLE OPPOSITION TO UPND AFTER AUGUST.
Why are you people so two faced? If Mumba was making moves towards UPND you would not complain, in fact it would be a loud battle cry, sabre rattling, pomp and circumstances. I mean UPND have GBM and he is former PF, ….don’t seem to bother you especially since he belongs to what you call the thieving Party! Hypocrites.
50%+1 means all Parties will be engaging with Strange Bed Fellows, To survive. This is no great shakes.
UPND-ERS ARE FUMING AD HANDING BILLIONS TO NAKACINDA TO CAUSE MORE CHAOS ON MMD, IT WONT WORK. EAT YOUR HEART OUT UPND. HH IS NOT SLEEPING BECAUSE HE IS SEEING HIMSELF CRYING AGAIN IN AUGUSST. SORRY THE TRAIN HAS LEFT THE STATION.
MUMBA TAMWAMUKWANISHE. ITS GOOD THAT THE TRUE HEART OF NAKACINDA HAS BEEN EXPOSED. IMAGINE FOR NEVERS T GO IN POWER WITH A TRAITOR.
HH and his UPND team are too confused over PF/MMD Alliance!!THIS PF/MMD ALLIANCE WILL HAVE ECL,RB AND NEVERS MUMBA IN 1 TEAM-JUST IMAGINE?where will this leave hh?MMD has structures across Zambia. MMD MPS LIKE CHITUWO,MUTATI,PANDE,ETC WILL BACK HH NOW,BUT THEY STILL SUPPORTED HIM IN 2015 AND LOST TO KNOWN EDGAR LUNGU TOGETHER!!WHAT UPND DREAMERS WANTED IS TO SEE NEVERS MUMBA AND EDITH NAWAKWI BE IN AN ALLIANCE WITH HH,BUT I TOLD PEOPLE HERE THAT EDGAR LUNGU IS MORE ATTRACTIVE TO A LOT OF STRONG OPPOSITION LEADERS THAN HH.MY WORDS HAVE COME TO PASS BCOZ EVEN EDITH NAWAKWI HAS REFUSED TO JOIN HH IN 2016!!hh will attract people like Wynter Kabimba,Mike Mulongoti,Charles Milupi,etc and these are leaders with almost zero followers across Zambia!!THESE WONT ADD ANY RESONABLES VOTES TO UPND AS…
THE SAD REALITY IS THAT PF AND LUNGU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SUFFERING OF MILLIONS AND ANYONE THAT STANDS WITH LUNGU BETRAYS THE PEOPLE. WE HAD SOME RESPECT FOR MUMBA UNTIL WE FOUND OUT THAT HE CARES MORE ABOUT SELF PRESERVATION THAN THE PLIGHT OF THE PEOPLE. THATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BRAVE AND THE SELFISH POLITICIANS SATA LEFT MMD AND EVEN WHEN IT APPEARED HIS PARTY HAD NO HOPE HE CONTINUED TO FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE HE DID NOT BETRAY US UNTIL HIS DEATH. LOOK AT MUMBA HE IS ALL ABOUT SELF PRESERVATION. SAD. IF HE HAD ALIGNED WITH ANY OPPOSITION PARTY WE WOULD NO THAT HE STANDS WITH US. ANYWAY FROM THIS POST FORTH NEVERS CEASES TO EXIST AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE.NERVERS JUDAS MUMBA REPRESENTS NERVERS THATS OVER FINISH!!!!!!!
NEVERS IS RIGHT ICHIKWANKA BACHIMWENA KUMAMPALANYA.HE HAS SEEN HH TO BE SELFISH WHO WANTS TO IMPOSE CONDITIONS ON THE PARTNER WHILSTL HIM REFUSE TO HONOUR THEM. PF TRIED TO DO IT WITH HH BUT FAILED THE MAN IS STUBORN,SELFISH,TRIBAL,A PRETENDER,BOOSTFULL,CHILDISH,A LIAR,RUTHLESS, ETC WHO CAN NOT BE TRUSTED. WITH LUNGU HE HAS INCLUNDED MMD MPS,DCS ETC TO SHOW WILLINGNESS TO WORK TOGETHER VIVA LUNGU VIVA NEVERS
WE WANT TOGETHERNESS NOT FIGHTS.
@Patriot. The issue of having successive governments and their contribution to economic development in the short and long term is well taken. Development of a country is a journey, whose route and inherent risks are insurmountable. Whoever takes the responsibility of a driver at any given time should be fully aware of this responsibility. The economic fundamentals have dwindled under PF, part of which is due to corruption and inconsistencies which have scared away investors. If a driver crushes a bus into a tree, you can’t blame the previous drivers for the accident. The PF has accelerated our misery due to lack of foresight and vision; because they are at a total loss on what route to take. Furthermore they lack the expertise to determine the fitness of the vehicle they are driving…
This proposed alliance between Mmd and Pf has frozen Upnd like a glacier at the Arctic circle. Just see the fear in the number of comments and the contents
The continuity of a political party in power is not equivalent to the progress of a nation. Progress is determined by the leadership’s capability at any given of addressing and articulating the issues at hand. Political infatuation should not be tolerated irrespective of the desperation of the players.
MMD gave birth to PF, Therefore MMD and PF are like mother and child, they are one and the same people uniting together again. VIVA alliance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!