THE Patriotic Front (PF) on the Copperbelt has said the province is still a stronghold of the ruling party as opposed to reports that the opposition United Party for National Development (UPND) has now taken over.
Copperbelt PF chairperson, Stephen Kainga said information suggesting that UPND is gaining ground on the Copperbelt is false, as the PF was still in control.
Mr Kainga said reports going round were malicious and aimed at misleading the people on the Copperbelt.
He said the party’s mobilising committee was on the ground and recruiting more members.
“I must say that the Copperbelt is still a PF stronghold. We dispel rumours and information going round that the UPND has taken over the province in terms of support. We are still strong on the ground and recruiting more members,” he said.
Mr Kainga said come August 11, the PF would emerge winner with an outright victory.
He, however, said those members who were in the party for positions should leave the party.
He alleged that some members were double-dealing and it they were not given positions they shifted camps.
He said the party needed members who were loyal and supportive with or without having positions.
“We have noticed that some members have exited the party after knowing that they will not be adopted. If there are others in the party who are double dealers and only support the party when they have been given positions, let them leave the party,” he said.
Mr Kainga said in this election year, the party needed committed, loyal and dedicated members who would support and unite the party unlike bringing divisions.
Stronghold should also mean that less or no unemployment by citizens in key sectors of the province, in this case the mines. It’s absurd to claim that CB is your stronghold when people’s interests are not your first priorities.
If you still think CB is your stronghold wait for August 11th and you will learn a lesson to never live in denial. As H.E H.H observed, there’s no longer any PF strong hold in the country. Luapula, Northern and CD will now be shared 75% UPND and 25% PF.
Spark Jarrow and Suntwe wa Suntwe,
I just spent the last few weeks in my home town, Kitwe, with friends and relatives. I also moved around towns in the province, just trying to get to the root of these UPND claims of popularity in the province. Though my investigations were admittedly anecdotal and not scientific, I just got the opposite of what UPND is claiming. My own advice to you and other like-minded individuals is that rather than basking in your exaggerated claims of popularity, why not just patiently wait for August 2016 to see whose claim has validity?
People can make all manner of claims but the results will shall very soon. It is the number of votes that count not the number of people at rallies or those flashing a particular party’s symbol.
Iwe, strong is strong hold. Do you tell me everyone in Southern province where UPND has strong hold is employed? or everyone has a cow?
Spark Jarrow and Suntwe wa Suntwe,
I just spent the last few weeks in my home town, Kitwe, with friends and relatives. I also moved around other towns in the province, just trying to get to the root of these UPND claims of popularity in the province. Though my investigations were admittedly anecdotal and not scientific, I just got the opposite of what UPND is claiming. My own advice to you and other like-minded individuals is that rather than basking in your exaggerated claims of popularity, why not just patiently wait for August 2016 to see whose claim has validity?
Comment: CB for Tongas. Dream on.
TRIBALIST
PF a failed regime where you see president E Chagwa Lungu going to America with 256 people including musicians and dancers. Musicians that went along were Dandy Crazy, Mark 2 and others wasting over $500,000.00 taxpayers money on boat cruises. Now Bishop Banda is talking ill about HH, is not childish behaviour that Lungu showed in USA? Shame Bishop Banda and your PF
Mislead the people of the copperbelt my foot, we lost jobs on the copperbelt!!!!!!
Stronghold my small toe!!!!!
Stronghold or no stronghold people are still hungry & that will influence how most will vote.
LT why are you using pictures of the thugs who went SMKIA to attack Miles Sampa?
You sold our mines.we haven’t forgotten and you want to cheat yourself. This time we shall teach you a last lesson as you retire from politics.
Your newly found fellow plunderers from MMD sold the mines. As to teaching the lesson, start with IMF austerity and then tell us about “unprecedented development” and whose fault it is.
HH never had the power to sell the mine, he was just an agent that sold on BEHALF of FREDRICK CHILUBA this is just a correction.
Iwe chika.la chobe bulunyoko its the mmd and fredrick chiluba who sold the mine HH’s company was only hired to do the evaluations. Just like your father only hired your mum to have se.x for once but the condom used was torn and thats how you were born.
Yes, but HH’s company played games such as extremeky undervaluing the assets and behind the scenes gatting kick backs and huge alloance. He was double dealing and getting paid from the seller and buyer while cheating the Zambians. AS HH how much he sold our animals from the Zambia Cold Storage Board and within a shot time we see him having thousand of the same animals.
So before you insult, go read how this happened, you will find HH without shame stole from the Zambian. Now he is talking about economic freedom, let him own up first on his deals. Chiluba and MMD entrusted HH with a noble responsibility, HH abuse and stole from the Zambian people.
There is no need for insults. Just go and dig into the national history and find ways of rebutting what other people are claiming. That…
Of course, unless calculated from politics of ignorance and poverty, CB can remain a PF strong hold but with real issues which are visibly available for serious debate, the issue of strong hold is null and void. If given another mandate to rule for another term, how shall be the livelihood of ordinary Zambians ? Imagine, the current price of a 25Kg bag of mealie meal is at K130, where shall it be under the PF government in the next five years ? Ati strong hold, yaba, is it a comment from a kabbova ?
Don’t Talk The Nosence. Viva Lungu Vote Pf Augast 11.
***** drunkard Chagwa, viva responsible HH!!!
HH is the biggest ***** because he agreed to be appointed as UPND president just because he is Tonga. He does deny nor regret this. This makes him a shameless tribalist. This Alliance with Sampa, Scot and GBM is only for convenience, hatred for Lungu, not necessarily because they believe in HH. Wait and see what happens after August when UPND and HH lose for the last time and go into oblivion and Zambia is liberated from tribal talks. These guys will go scatter scatter.
You call EL an *****, I think then you and you HH are the biggest *****s for being beaten by such a man. It means Zambians consider EL a better ***** then HH and your tribal party.
@Maikalange & tim-but last time I logged in,you have never said anything positive about HH & UPND!But guess what?This time around you will have BP of your life’s time.Eat your last corrupt & diabolical pathetic deals in your PF as us the majority continue reducing & missing meals in our quest to reach August 11th as your Outgoing PF has surely downgraded us from heroes to zeros while you continue castigation & name calling us like pawns in Zambia thereby promoting the race to the bottom for us the majority!We are despondent with your PF regime,we can’t see tomorrow’s hope with your PF,but you continue believing in your usual voting patterns,but I’m sure,truth be told,PF is losing it,come what!
…this is a task of some NGOs to settle the argument….don’t just sit and enjoy aircon in offices…driving to nowhere…all what is needed is a 5cm x 5cm questionnaire to read as follows..
…if elections were held today who would you vote for…
A) PF
B)UPND
C)OTHERS
…then go to different places..markets shopping malls churches etc….you capture 100 would be voters in lubuto..chifubu bulangililo chiwempala nkana east kalulushi muf chambeshi etc..
…that wl give a good sample of opinion poll…
Ya,we are seeing who’s losing it this openly!But if really its your stronghold,why are you not allowing UPND to mobilise freely there?By the way,why are you telling us that its still your stronghold-meaning something is happening there in favour of UPND,but remember,UPND has many strongholds which have proven to be there’s indisputably!Truth be told,I’m not seeing any stronghold for PF now seriously!
Civilised Sam spot on.
Allow opposition to hold their rallies in CB the same way the incumbents are allowed.
Then we see whose stronghold CB is.
If PF are indeed so sure of themselves why are they scared of every shadow ?
KOPALA IS ALL PF. ITS PF.
Suntwe wa Suntwe, Spark Jrrow, Itizi turu, The Civilized Sam, etc
According to the Merriam – Webster dictionary, a stronghold is a place dominated by a particular group or marked by a particular characteristic.
In line with definition, using the 2015 presidential by-election results as a yardstick, based on the percent of votes one obtained, the following are the strongholds for HH: Southern (90.9 percent); Western (80.5 percent); Northwestern (85.8 percent); and, to a very limited extent, Central (53.6 percent).
For ECL, the following are his strongholds: Copperbelt (72.6 percent); Eastern (65.8 percent); Luapula (83.6 percent); Muchinga (81.1 percent); Lusaka (61.6 percent); and Northern (77.5 percent).
Suntwe wa Suntwe, Spark Jrrow, Itizi turu, The Civilized Sam, etc
The total number of registered voters, based on data from the Electoral Commission of Zambia, as at 31st December 2015 is 7,974,138. Of this number, 5,020,967 or 63 percent are in PF strongholds broken down as follows: Lusaka province – 1,243,589 (15.6%), Copperbelt province- 1,179,505 (14.8%), Eastern province – 897,553 (11.3%), Northern province – 666,058 (8.4%), Luapula province – 605,560 (7.6%), Muchinga province- 428,702 (5.4%), total- 5,020,967 (63.0%). In the UPND strongholds there are 2,185,756 or 27.4 percent of the registered voters broken down as follows: Southern province- 1,074,328 (13.5%), Western province- 635,560 (8.0%), North-Western province – 475,868 (6.0%), Total- 2,185,756 (27.4%).
MM,
Provide empirical evidence, as I have, to prove that the UPND has made inroads in the PF strongholds.
Maikalange, will Lusaka really vote PF with all these power outages, and unemployed Copperbelt still vote PF? What do you mean by ‘PF strongholds’? Lusaka people are happy to live as in ancient times?
Yes, Lusaka and CB are still very much PF if you don not know. You cannot lie to people in this area. They know why there is power outages. HH cannot cheat them. Even if HH get 100% in Southern Province, he will still lose. You do not vote yourselves into power, it is the people who who do that. You are behaving like you have already won, the day is still young. This is the same behaviour exhibited by UPND in all elections and they never learn to take it easy and think the best way of doing politics. Just dancing, insulting and wasting money on meetings at Chainama or Mumana hotel will not help. Those are just business marketing tactics. PF has the political tactics to win elections just wait and see.
You think this is proof? Small head!
The wild card is Central Province – which can go either to UPND or PF – with 767,415 or registered voters or 9.6% of the total registered voters. What this means therefore is that for UPND to win under the current arrangement of 50 percent plus one, they have to obtain 3,987,071 of registered voters from the PF strongholds. The question is: is it possible for them to get such a large number of voters from the PF strongholds? Even if you give UPND all the registered voters in Central Province, they still fall short. So what is the basis of your confidence that UPND is sweeping the August 11 elections? If Even with Miles Sampa and Guy Scott in your pocket, this is a tall order.
@Maikalange. I belive you have ASSUMED that the vote distribution will be the same as January 2015? That is an assumption I will not bet my money on! UPND has made in-roads in PF strongholds. Only Aug 11 will tell us if these are fatal to PF’s hope of clinging onto power. The other issue to take note of is that PF has lost members to Rainbow & DF. ECL has also presided over a loss of economic well being for Zambians, who will not in turn, be enthusiastic about going out and voting for PF.
@maikalange you are powerful your analysis is good.
@Maikalange:well said my brother and only a lunatic can dispute your facts!!!PF WILL 100% RETAIN POWER IN 2016!!LET UPND DREAM BECAUSE DREAMING IS VERY FREE!!
@Eddy, I must be a “lunatic” as I think @Maikalange’s analysis is “fatally flawed” and will not hold!
@Maikalenge-and you expect those who voted for either UPND or PF to still vote in the same manner?If that was the real case,then reference would have been made to 2011 presidential elections!But us in real life of dynamism,we consider so many variables at play which will definitely sway the voting pattern of some perceived Northern Circuit.We saw Kapita,Dawson & Shakafuswa & others crossing to PF & we also witnessed & still seeing many others crossing over to the opposition!With the unemployment & many other human developmental aspects still in limboidism under Lungu,I can bate rationally for anything in favour of the opposition!Why MUST people vote for PF with all signs of failure & despondency in every aspect of human development,not for a normal adult.
We are voting for PF because we have seen what it can do and what it has done. Last time many PF supporter did not vote in PF strongholds. On the other hand UPND voters came out in numbers. This time, we are in the PF strongholds are coming out to vote in numbers too. HH is in for another shock!!!
The Civilized Sam,
You would be more convincing to me if you could argue with statistics rather than subjective opinions not grounded in empirical evidence. What if the so-called confounding factors diehard UPND supporters like citing – such as unemployment levels on the Copperbelt, fuel shortages, high mealie meal prices, on the Copperbelt and load shedding – improve by August 2016?
Believe me or not CB is for UPND when man without head and neck visited Mufulira he accused the pf leadreship of not doing enough and when he addressed a small rally he asked the people if the problem the current problem the nation is going through where caused by Wrungu the small crowd replied ekalengele and that how the rally ended.
Which statistics is this Congolese Maikalange boasting about – ECZ statistics? What an illiterate way to advance an argument?
US President,
A sensible person wouldn’t casually dismiss the data I am providing, but would, instead, use them intelligently in their political campaigns. I now understand why UPND has this false sense of popularity.