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Over 2,000 UPND members are in detention-HH

Headlines Over 2,000 UPND members are in detention-HH

The UPND leadership singing the national anthem at the start of the media briefing
The UPND leadership singing the national anthem at the start of the media briefing

UPND President Hakainde Hichilema has revealed that over 2,000 UPND members are in police detention in various police stations across the country.

And Mr Hichilema has maintained that President Edgar Lungu was not legitimately elected as Head of State in the August 11th polls.

Speaking during a news conference at his residence today, Mr Hichilema disclosed that police are holding over 2,000 UPND members for various trumped up charges in the aftermath of the August 11 elections.
He said his party is sending more lawyers everywhere to represent its detained members and that their detentions are attracting huge bail amounts.

Mr Hichilema claimed that the idea is to break the UPND and eventually create a one party state in Zambia.
He said his and Vice President Geoffrey Mwamba recent arrest is part of the grand plan to silence the opposition into oblivion.

Mr Hichilema said he does not understand why the state refused to allow him and Mr Mwamba to visit detained party members at Kamfinsa state prison.

“We were not allowed to visit our members in prison. We were kept waiting for more than three hours, everyone was walking but it is only the two us that were not allowed to go in. What kind of government refuses to allow its detained citizens the right to visitation?

Mr Hichilema also charged that the two counts they were charged with by the Luanshya Magistrate Court are laughable.

“We were charged with illegal assembly and seditious practices in Luanshya. As you know, on our way back from Kamfinsa, we stop over to greet people that recognised us and wanted to greet us. Now if it is a crime to greet people on the streets then let it be so,” Mr Hichilema said.

“They have also charged us with seditious practices saying that we were telling people in Kitwe not to recognise Edgar Lungu as President. How dull can somebody be to charge us with seditious practices when we are publicly in court saying Lungu you stole our victory. The papers are in court,” Mr Hichilema said.

I hear he is promising to create 1 million jobs. That is not possible, I am a business man, I am an Economist. That is why Zambians voted for me. Structurally we don’t have an economy. The economy is shrinking, so how can Edgar Lungu even start dreaming of creating jobs?”

He also stated that the UPND petition challenging President Lungu’s victory is still alive and that the Courts will hear the matter on November 23rd 2016.

“We have been given a date by the courts and the matter is still very much alive. So what seditious practices are they talking about? That is what happens when one is making decisions whilst drunk. hear he has now upgrade the quality of his beer.”

The UPND leadership during the news conference
The UPND leadership during the news conference

And Mr Hichilema has maintained that the UPND will never recognise President Lungu as a dully elected President.

No amount of Institutionalised intimidation using Police arrests will make us recognise a President who the courts of law have never declared as duly elected and whose election is still a major source of unresolved legal scrutiny and much controversy.

“For us to pursue such legal avenues arises from the fact that we have a fundamental right to be heard which right is enshrined in our constitution. This right was denied us. To therefore suggest that our resolve is egocentric driven, is not only fundamentally flawed, but preposterous and totally ill-conceived and mischievous,” Mr Hichilema said.

“To Lungu, we are telling you that we don’t recognise you as a dully elected president. I won the election and Lungu knows that fact.”

He charged that President Lungu has misgoverned the country to an extent that there is nothing to be proud of happening in the country.

“I hear some people say we need to be proud of Zambia. You don’t have a country to be proud of. You have Chief thugs like Edgar Lungu and Kaizer Zulu running the country. Somebody on Sunday goes to Church and says he is a Christian and Fr Chilinda and Joshua Banda will be there praying for him, praying for someone who goes out there to batter people. Edgar and Kaizer are two people who are illegal in their offices and that is why they are behaving like this.”

Mr Hichilema also predicted that Zambia is headed for troubled times.

“I am not a story teller, things will be tough in this country. I hear he is promising to create 1 million jobs. That is not possible, I am a business man, I am an Economist. That is why Zambians voted for me. Structurally we don’t have an economy. The economy is shrinking, so how can Edgar Lungu even start dreaming of creating jobs?”

HH chats with Bob Sichinga as Dante Saunders listens in
HH chats with Bob Sichinga as Dante Saunders listens in

165 COMMENTS

  1. Chakolwa has employed his fellow clueless,visionless,hearless,brainless,ruthless,needless,directionless,spineless and drunkards as police officers. What do you expect from people who just goes for a six months course and if you substract sundays,saturdays and holidays its becomes a 4 months course.

    • Miles Sampa and Mulenga Sata have abandoned ‘the struggle’ and they are slowly creeping back in UPND. They thought a struggle last for only a few months and you bounce back into power. Silly children. In a struggle you go back to wearing trainers like GS and get in there. Often there are trails, pains and tribulations. Those that endure are sometimes the beneficiaries. At times they are not even the beneficiaries they die for the cause of their people. The five in the picture are the real sons of the soil.Rewards are coming to you or yours people. Abash Miles, Abash Mulenga and Aluta continua!

    • What are you doing about their fate if you are a leader? Stop exploiting gullibility by turning those cadres into your Guinea pigs. And you’re proud to even cook up such fuzzy data? It’s a manifestation of lawlessness in your party and lack of leadership on your part. You must be leading a den of outlaws who think freedom is absolute irrespective of what law they break. Selling utopia and then turning oneself into a whinner is not leadership.

    • You say you don’t recognize Lungu as commander In-Chief and President of the Democratic Republic of Zambia but yourself. Why then are you whining if you are President and power is vested in your Presidency? Go ahead let your office use the prerogative of mercy to grant freedom to all your outlaws. Unless you are titular or utopian President who is just a vacuous motormouth. Swallow your pride and come back to earth. Insults and whynning have zero effects.

    • It means that UPND members are predominantly law breakers.

      How can you have so many law breakers in one party? And you boast?

      Anyway, they are following their leader HH and his second hand man GBM who are equally law breakers.

    • Lungu has mastered the Drunken Fist Kung Fu, looks weak and humble but very lethal. Just like the 1978 Jackie Chan film Drunken Master.

    • HH continue deceiving yourself, you will forever remain a cry baby and president of GBM and the ailing Guy Scott. Zambia does not need you,you are not president material Mr bitter foool.

    • Parliament should immediately .’fine tune’ the constitution and I agree with the Commander-in-chief HE Lungu. One aspect to look at is what happens is Lungu dies within this Parliament and Inonge takes over and dies as well, what is the provision. If Lungu does not die the scenario I have outlined above needs to be provided for.

    • HH, WHERE DO YOU THINK CRIMINALS BELONG? YOU MEAN AFTER BURNING OTHER PEOPLES’ HOUSES AND BUSINESSES IN YOUR SO CALLED STRONGHOLDS AND LINCHING THE NONE-TONGA SPEAKING THEY CAN STILL BE WALKING FREE WITH THE REST OF SOCIETY? THOSE LUNATICS NEED TO BE SECTIONED.

    • Okay. Lets be serious here. Are you telling me if 100,000 people say they did not recognize Mr. Lungu as the legitimate winner August 11 polls then police will go hunting for these people instead of hunting for thieves and criminals?
      The real problem is not those not recognizing Mr. Lungu but Mr. Lungu refusing to prove he won transparently and fair without manipulation especially that the events during the vote count are what are causing people to question his legitimacy. Once Mr. Lungu proves without reasonable doubt that he truly won then for sure UPND is not to say anything so please instead of chasing innocent people who have the right to recognize whom they feel was legitimately elected advise PF to prove their presidential won these elections.

    • We also do not recongnise you as a human being from today. Once we meet you we shall see cow dung and spit in your direction. Stop making noise and ask your f00lish MPs to stop going to parliament and start coming to your home for meeting with the most s.tupid white man.

    • HH Is seriously sick in his mind. The few (not 2000 by the way) UPND cadres in detention are because of his foolishness. He doesn’t care about anybody else other than himself. I hope this man will NEVER be near state house. He is indeed a true freemanson.

    • THE SON OF THE SOIL HAS SPOKEN. OUR LEADER HAS SPOKEN. IF OUR LEADER, OUR PRESIDENT HH DOES NOT RECOGNISE LUNGU AS PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA, THEN US , THE MILLIONS OF HIS FOLLOWERS EQUALLY DO NOT RECOGNISE LUNGU AS OUR PRESIDENT. OUR PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA IS HH. VIVA CHANGE VIVA! VIVA ZAMBIA FORWARD VIVA!

  2. Bitterness and disgrustled… mixed with maniac illusion… how can 58 upnd be greater than over 80 for PF … this is clear indication of who is president of Zambia. The world has recognized Lungu and moved on. PF only need 50+1 for recognition. Not courts of law declarations

    • @Lutuku name calling means that you have no value to add it means that the truth has hurt you. Are you proposing that Chavuma is cleverer than the whole UPND machinery which promised Zambians that all votes will be protected. How incompetent can u be. Upnd was busy chasing ghosts in empty trucks intead

    • You are going to join them soon! HH is always fixating and obsessing over something. Now it’s prisons. Watch this!

  3. And you’re proud of such fuzzy data? It’s a manifestation of lawlessness in your party. You must be leading a den of outlaws who think freedom is absolute irrespective of what law they break.

    • HH is a terrible liar and its not a surprise because the devil is a liar.
      He lied that there were hundreds of his supporters in Kanfinsa prison only to learn letter that there were only 4 hard core criminals convicted of crimes. HH should have organized bail for those he claims are his supporters. HH is a dangerous liar.

    • freedom does not just walk in; it is a struggle and it is freedom and just play we seek; this one party state you are fighting for will affect you as well; today you sit at the high table and drop crumbs to the majority soon you too will join the majority; so do not be too critical on the fight for justice and freedom; we are a divided nation right now with all the name calling directed to Tongas but as many Tonga supporters are in UPND just know that as many tribes from the remaining 72 support HH and the UPND.

    • We shall see yu ba PF when two of them dies.We shall see how will be forged president and vice.

  4. Edgar Wrungu is a bad Omen to this nation he is no different from the mailoni brothers. Since he came into power pangas and guns where introduced to the Zambias political arena,tribalism,lawlessness and ritual killings that’s why Edgar sleeps violence,walks violence,dreams violence,speaks violence,eats violence and looks violence the guy is supposed to be a call boy at KMB bus station.

  5. We have moved on and busy with other things. HH please 2021 is not far but unfortunately for you the percentage population of Tongas is unlikely to change. I also wonder what kind of mathermatics some economist understand the three provices out of 10 is not 50%+1. And 2000 UPND members in prison HH ubushilu bweka bweka.

    • #kci Ch1kala are you aware that the IMF is discussing a harsh reality bail out for the mess caused by your Chakolwa. Ulelapila ch1kamba ukalanya amenshi

    • ba KCI, bwaba amab0l00, why do you pfools conveniently remove Central Province from the provinces HH won? Trouble we have with PF is dishonestness in everything-you want to blind people with lies all the time!

      As far as am concerned, the number ratio of provinces won is 4:5, upnd/pf respectively because to me Muchinga is part of Northen province and was merely created to give an advantage to PF in terms constinuences. Its like u split Southern Prov. into 2, and create more constinuencies…which party do you expect to benefit most?

      If you want to know how powerful HH is just have a look at the Political map of Zambia today and you will notice that more than 50% of if is in RED, and this is what scares your drunken master most and…..

    • ba KCI, bwaba amab0l00, why do you pf00ls conveniently remove Central Province from the provinces HH won? Trouble we have with PF is dishonestness in everything-you want to blind people with lies all the time!

      As far as am concerned, the number ratio of provinces won is 4:5, upnd/pf respectively because to me Muchinga is part of Northen province and was merely created to give an advantage to PF in terms constinuences. Its like u split Southern Prov. into 2, and create more constinuencies…which party do you expect to benefit most?

      If you want to know how powerful HH is just have a look at the Political map of Zambia today and you will notice that more than 50% of if is in RED, and this is what scares your drunken master most and…..

  6. This man is very bitter to think rationally. He may due of BP. Surely where did he win? He has few councillors and MPS. He is now wasting his and everyone’s time. The more he talks the more he distances himself from people.

    • #John c1nyo sorry chinena he is not bitter but crying 1mbecile like you.
      You deserve better my friend not this pigry mess you have been subjected to by our your clueless Chakolwa sorry if have offended you but I m just stating fact.

    • ba Sosa, bwaba amab0l00, why do you pf00ls conveniently remove Central Province from the provinces HH won? Trouble we have with PF is dishonestness in everything-you want to blind people with lies all the time!

      As far as am concerned, the number ratio of provinces won is 4:5, upnd/pf respectively because to me Muchinga is part of Northen province and was merely created to give an advantage to PF in terms constinuences. Its like u split Southern Prov. into 2, and create more constinuencies…which party do you expect to benefit most?

      If you want to know how powerful HH is just have a look at the Political map of Zambia today and you will notice that more than 50% of if is in RED, and this is what scares your drunken master most and…..

  7. pipo is there any benefit or gain if under 5 recognizes ECL as president, is our economy or Kwacha going to improve let alone prices going down? I don’t think there is anything to gain by ECL and Zambians instead its HH to gain from not been imprisoned for life and his tribal party banned for ever

    • I WOULD RATHER HE DOESN’T EVEN RECOGNISE ANYTHING INCLUDING WHAT COMES OUT OF HIS INTESTINES AFTER FOOD DIGGESTION. PEOPLE WHO NEED TO RECOGNISE LUNGU ALREADY DID SO. THESE ARE THE ELECTORATE, CHIEFS, ELECTION OBSERVERS, OTHER WORLD GOVERNMENTS, THE UN, AND OTHER NTERNATIONAL ORGANISATIONS, ETC.

    • Peter-but USA and UK govts have not recognised your ecl, they are the ones who matters most….even Germany, Australia, Zuma, etc, have remained mute and this makes ecl very bitter because he thinks its HH making him not being recognised, forgetting these nations have embassies in Lusaka who are always reporting to there respective counties on what is going on in Zambia.

    • Recognition comes with clean elections,leakage may give a certificate but not a qualification which comes with hard work.PF ni leakage we all saw them campaigning using govt money and guns ,denying others campaign time for 5LONG years and even you had to steal to win what a bunch of shameless creatures.Why did you fear the court if you truly won? What were all those monkeys trix for,a win should confront the lose with confidence not police guns and illiterate cadres.

  8. police, you are wasting time, lock up these i.do.its UPND HH AND GBM, they think zambian are there with them. arrest them put them in jail. why watching these bagers talking useless things in the country were we have elected president ECL?

  9. I’m disappointed that police only managed to arrest 2000 criminals…
    HH you will never rule Zambia never never never never

  10. “One must change one’s tactics every ten years if one wishes to maintain one’s superiority.” – Napoleon Bonaparte

  11. “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
    ? Sun Tzu, The Art of War

  12. There is total lack of leadership in HH.
    He is a business man yes, but so far he ha shown a total lack of leadership.

    • And the worst economist in the world. He can’t even get his election stats right, let alone project success or failure from them!

    • peace for zambia; have you given HH a chance to govern before you criticise him? do you seriously believe the PF is governing properly with the IMF stepping in now? think use your brain and open your eyes and see, this is just the beggining you will hate the name PF unless you are amongst the chosen few at state house where truthfully it is not ECL ruling but KAIZER ZULU.

  13. Lungu is just a bitter thug hoodwinking the church. He is bitter that he spent 10 billion US , used the POLICE, ZAF And the army and all GRZ marchinary and funds illigally and was still rejected by more than 50% of the population.

    If he won genuinely why is he harassing the loser ? What does he fear ?

    • For me this is the mystery about PF. After spending so much money, after abusing state resources, they still had to rig the elections just to scrape a mediocre win. What will happen in 2021 after Zambians will be hurting with high inflation, food shortages etc? My guess is that the 2021 elections will have to be suspended or cancelled altogether if PF is to rule beyond. This is the most clueless leadership ever.

  14. Keeping on mow,mow.mow,.mow while our president moves the nation to another level of prosperity. Lungu for 2021.

    • Level of Prosperity?? I am not sure which Planet you are on……… there is nothing prosperous about Zambia under Lungu…….. in fact, to be blunt, the economy is f***ed!

    • HH laments, “What kind of government refuses to allow its detained citizens the right to visitation?” but with the same mouth he says “that the UPND will never recognise President Lungu as a dully elected President.” According to the first statement those UPND detainees are citizens of the Govt run by President ECL and he (HH) is not happy that this Govt ( ECL’s Govt) is refusing its detained citizens the right to visitation. The second statement of “UPND not recognising ECL as dully elected” is therefore, self-contradiction. My advice as Fair Judge is for HH and his UPND to accept the reality and MOVE on.

    • What prosperity iwee, when you can’t even win a football much witnessed by yr drunken master….ecl is clueless, you aren”t going nowhere..

    • What level of prosperity *****. Go in all residential areas, especially mtendere, chainama and PHI and you will find residents don’t even have the privilege of water to run their toilets or to bath. It is hell for people in these areas and yet you stupidly talk about higher level of prosperity. Sounds more like a higher level of stupidity and backwardness. Stop fooling people you s.o.b.

  15. By how much did HH win. I am personally interested to see his figures?? Surely can one Chavuma outsmart the entire UPND and the entire world except Tongas believe that ECL won!!

  16. Is this underfive fighting for himself or for the people? Which people then? The ones who.have refused to die silly deaths so that HH becomes president and Mutinta the first lady? HH will go down in the Guinness Book of Records as the only Zambian who lost his entire wealth chasing the political winds. Can you imagine Mutinta right now, how miserable she is that her husband is killing himself slowly. Mutinta has told him that she loves him even as an ordinary citizen and even after he failed to keep his promise to make first lady. He slapped her face GBM style for daring say that to him. Now you don’t do that to ladies like Mutinta. Just imagine Mutinta walking to the market in tropical sandals to.buy some rape for her husband’s dinner. That happens to fooolish people like HH who ignore…

    • terrible, that is below the belt; keep HH s wife out of it; same goes for Esther; imagine her going back to selling tomatos at the market; let us respect other people s spouses and keep them out of the politics of dirt exibited by many bloggers;

  17. This case will rest only when the petitioners are heard. What’s wrong with that? More than 50% cast votes for HH and feel the kleptomaniac in state house has stolen their victory. Once this is put to rest and it’s ascertained beyond dispute that Lungu won fair and square then he can operate with a clear conscience. We all know the unprofessional and uncouth way the authorities conducted the election, who wouldn’t dispute the result?

  18. Baffling! His Excellency President Lungu wants to create 1 Million jobs what have you done? You, have created 2,000 detainees in various jails. I don’t know…..to me it sounds like President Lungu is doing the right thing for Zambia.

    • Your comments are nauseating. Do you think over what you are? It’s people like you who make dictators, and you think that they are leaders. You are proud of your stupid government lead by a lunatic for arresting innocent people.

  19. Comment:English-Politics…..Bemba-Ifikansa fya Chalo…..forgive them i think they take it laterally.Five Senses….Amano 5….GBM “I have 5 brains”.In my opinion that number should be 2002 hh and gbm should be taken in too.

  20. Imwe ba LT, I don’t insult like UPND leaders and cadres, I mean ra.pe the vegetable. Ok let’s try again.
    Just imagine Mutinta walking to the market in tropical sandals to.buy some r.ap.e vegetable for her husband’s dinner. That happens to fooolish people like HH who ignore their wife’s advice…..You think.I am kidding? Just wait, you will tell me soon about my prediction…I am never wrong with such things….

  21. So ishallucinating underfive hoing to he addressing press conferences from his house everyday since he fears police cells if he is arrested again? How come in the whole world of democrats HH is the only man who thinks that he was robbed of victory? The Americans and British are wrong too, to recognise Lungu? Has HH asked his son or he is a dictator even in his home?

  22. Terrible is now signing off for a peaceful sleep while HH continues hallucinating 24/7…..he cannot even make good business decisions anymore……kikikikikikiki

  23. Oh sorry just a reminder for HH, the mausoleums at Embassy Park are only built for late actual Presidents…not imposters…I mean elected Presidents sworn in.by the Chief Justice.

  24. The Supreme Leader HH of the UPND is now a spent force…With his reasoning capacity i’m very certain that even his supporters are now embarrassed with his myopic reasoning…To him anyone who embraces the President of Zambia Mr Edgar Lungu,then those people become his enemies and hence the attacks on the clergy such as Fr Chilinda and Bishop Joshua Banda, however my conclusions on this Supreme Leader HH who is also a Dictator in the UPND is that perhaps he’s seriously sick and needs a thorough medical check up…

  25. Are there no witches to bewitch this ***** called hakayobela. Mr totokanyeni from samfya killed the birds that ate his fish.so hhakayobela go to samfya and bewich the thief who store your votes.you making too much noise.. Atase iwe ububi nga kunuma ya ngombe.

    • Not fit to be a leader because he does not understand democracy. A true leader is one who unites a country for a common vision. In democracy you have to accept if the majority of the people did not vote for you. Mr. HH you are not only insulting President Lungu. You are also insulting us who did not vote for you. You think our votes belong to you, when you wasted time talking about T-bone na Kaunga in your campaign, when you chose a rif raf for a running mate, when you showed that you don’t understand a simple thing as a referendum and a bill of rights. These are the things that made you fail. Check your maths (if you know ratios) Four provinces out of ten, 58MP out of 164. We are not blind followers. Silly mistakes costed you seat. Bye, till 2021 if you won’t be poor by then.

  26. Even if we were to go for another election which can not happen until 2021. HH will still be defeated again. He is a bitter tonga man.

  27. Wishful thinking! CAN HAKAINDE PLEASE PUBLISH HIS PUT NOW TO SHAME THE CRITICS.
    LET me inform you guys that come 2021 better tribal voting will be apportioned by the wining regions for ECL AGAINST THE SOUTHERN, WESTERN AND NORTHWEST. WE WILL SEE AND WE PROMISE YOU A GOOD BATTLE FOR YOUR MESS. WE WILL ACTUALLY RECIPROCATE YOUR TRIBAL VOTING.
    YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND NOT RECOGNIZE EDGAR FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS & 9 MONTHS IT’S UPTO YOU WE DONT CARE AT ALL. TELL YOUR 58 mps not to attend PARLIAMENT SESSIONS BECAUSE THIS WILL HELP THEM NOT TO RECOGNIZE ECL WHOSE OPENING SPEECH IS THE SUBJECT OF THE DEBATE IN PARLIAMENT. lol.. COPALA, ABENA LUBEMBA, NORTHERN, LUAPULA, MUCHINGA, UMODZI KUM’MAWA THE GAME HAS JUST STARTED. 2021 IS JUST AROUND FRIDAYS CORNER. DON’T BE CHEATED BY THE HUNGRY LIONS.

    • Instead of singing praises for your Lungu, please give the people in mutendere, phi and chelstone some water so that they can bath and use the toilet. Also improve the electricity situation.

    • @BorthaTD, be magnanimous in victory and drop your vitriol. How can you drip so much poison when you won? Get on with the job – in fact, most of the areas that did not vote for the incumbent are begging for development, which has been dribbling every year except election time when fast-tracked incentives are foisted on them. You know how painful it is to be fed once every week and only when you need to be milked?

  28. Its sad to have the bread winner behind the bars. Also its the citizen’s responsibility to obey the rules of the Land. I hope the leaders will discourage disobedience. Its just sad that even the learned behave sometimes as though they are slow in thinking.

  29. Okay. Lets be serious here. Are you telling me if 100,000 people say they did not recognize Mr. Lungu as the legitimate winner August 11 polls then police will go hunting for these people instead of hunting for thieves and criminals?
    The real problem is not those not recognizing Mr. Lungu but Mr. Lungu refusing to prove he won transparently and fair without manipulation especially that the events during the vote count are what are causing people to question his legitimacy. Once Mr. Lungu proves without reasonable doubt that he truly won then for sure UPND is not to say anything so please instead of chasing innocent people who have the right to recognize whom they feel was legitimately elected advise PF to prove their presidential won these elections.

    • @Wise Commentator. I DONT KNOW HOW WISE YOU ARE. THE ZAMBIAN PRISONS HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE MORE THAN 100,000 LAW BREAKERS. BUT THE QUESTION SHOULD BE. WHICH INSTITUTION HAS BEEN GIVEN THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO DECLARE A WINNER? WHICH COURT IN ZAMBIA HAS BEEN GIVEN THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO HEAR ELECTORAL PETITIONS? A WINNER WAS DECLARED, AND IT IS UP TO THE ONE DOUBTING TO PROVE HIM GUILTY. IT IS UP TO UPND/HH TO PROVE THAT ECL LOST. UPND/HH WAS GIVEN A LOT OF TIME AS PROVIDED FOR BY THE CONSTITUTION. HE FAILED TO PROVE. IN FACT HIS LAWYERS KNEW THAT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE THATS WHY THEY KEPT BUYING TIME TO CASH IN ON LEGAL FEES. YOU WILL CONTINUE BLAH…BLAH…BLAH…BLAH… UNTIL HEAVEN COMES.

    • @32 Wise Commentator, you have really put your argument very well. But my only problem is that HH cannot accept any results declaration even if they are very authentic. Moreover, there is nothing wrong for HH and team to publish their acclaimed victory. It will help Zambians to make their own judgement. Please help all of us to know the truth and then we will shame the devil. To only expect ECL and PF to prove their victory and not HH and UPND then we will be one sided. Let both of them, probably come to a round table and prove their results with facts and not rhetoric.

  30. COMEDIANS vs THE CLOWNS
    The comedians Difficulti, Bikiloni and Kasaka may be getting worried about their business ventures that is being invaded by HH, GBM, Guy Scott and Nevers Mumba in the field of entertainment. However, Difficulti, Bikiloni and Kasaka need not worry in that the three guys are the favorite entertainers much needed for hire in commercial adverts.

    Apparently, the quartet comprised of HH, GBM, Guy Scott and Nevers Mumba will NOT attract public attention because this set of political CLOWNS has opted to act the disgusting roles of the worst imitators of ‘MALIKOPO’ (by HH), ‘POMPOLIONGO’ (by GBM), ‘MR. BIN’ (by Guy Scott) and ‘MR. SOUZANDE’ –MHSRIP (by Nevers Mumba) to be frowned upon by peace-loving Zambians.

  31. I hope if courts say Lungu won you will recognize him, Remember judges in con.court voted Lungu got 3 and you got 2 still you didn’t lose. If number of provinces 3 against 7 and MPs are not telling you that you lost then we don’t know what will tell you.

    • The ConCourt never said that Lungu won. They merely voted, without anybody asking for a judicial review, to discontinue the case without giving judgement. You are rewriting history that is barely one month old.

  32. I am eagerly waiting for the day when the Zambian Police, with the assistance of INTERPOL, will prosecute the holders of fake Grade 12, Form V and UK Diplomas that were submitted as qualifications for position of Presidential Running Mates in the 11th August General and Presidential Elections. Then some people will dance Kalindula and Chingande.

  33. Ba HH ala fimo muleibwelamo abana nabakula. We warned you when you brought in this ex-InterCity thig GBM and spoilt our chances of winning again. Dont hoodwink us into believing this ‘2000 members in prison’ story so that we forget to remind you that we need a Convention this year and that Garry Nkombo is our choice for 2021 !

    • Truly speaking my bit chongololo, bit lumpen campus days friend Garry is a better leader for the Party. At least he has been an MP for sometime now and very tactful compared to underfive who has never even won an election as Ward Chairman. In fact all the UPND MPs who won their seats did so on their own. HH was busy with people who never even brought a single seat to parliament. Sampa, GBM, Scott, Sata, Masebo, Mumba, Bernard Mpundu. The man can never win an election, its time to change him. He is now in a self destructive mode and unfortunately he is dragging a lot of other people into it so that people should say that the party is being persecuted. There is nothing to prove elections were stolen. What needs to be done is a post mortem of UPND’s loss and strategize for the next election.

    • If you claim to be sane BUT do not realise that HH can never win an election, you need a brain transplant ! Nkombo is our choice for 2021. Forward !

  34. Sorry HH the whole world only know Lungu as president of Republic of Zambia. In fact everything discussed in Parliament will be signed by Lungu which means Upnd Mps have recognized Lungu as president unless they resign from Parliament.

  35. And you’ll create the one party state because there will be no Upnd members in Parliament. You lost better luck 2021

    • What wrong with that. Has there been any benefit in having UPND in the opposition. UPND MPs in parliament are just as good as rubber stamps. They failed to stop the minister of finance when he increased the ceiling for borrowing. You will see how ineffective they are when they will fail to stop the creation of unnecessary ministries. Until they start acting mature there is no difference.

  36. HH says the petition challenging the election of President Lungu is still alive in courts. The courts have set 23rd November as the date of hesring. He also says that he woll.never recognise Mr Lungu as the President of Zambia. I see clear signs of madness here. So what are you in court for if you say that you will not recognise a decision which gies against you? This is abuse of court process by the rich? The judges must ne dusgusted and they will probably say so when you appear before them. Anyway, you said exactly the same thing before we even went to vote. Why you participated in an election which you knew uou would lose is a confirmation of your mental state of madness. A normal person would have boycotted rather participating just to take us through the courts because you have…

  37. Ugandan leadership and Zimbabwean leadership have to do everything possible even criminality to remain in power because of fundamentally, for atrocities they have done against their fellow citizens, but for ECL its just for fun that he wants to remain in power at all costs! People run mad because of stress or dagger smoking but for ECL he sort of decides to run mad without both stress or dagger smoking!

  38. Iam upnd but on this one, iam disappointed with hh…! I regret having voted for upnd..! Plz hh, accept defeat and start organising for 2021 which iam sure ur going to win. Insulting Lungu will only land u in jail and the end of your political career..! Don’t follow gbm kaponya mentality. U are learnt.

    • The is no more political career for HH, his reputation is already low. Birds of the same feather flock together. He is now in the same league with HH and the Kaponya,s he is sharing cells with. The man is in self destructive mode.

  39. 11 August 2016 is now history and campaigns are over. It is only UPND which still thinks 11 August 2016 is yet to come and are busy campaigning in Mpongwe and in tennis courts. Bane 11 august 2016 yalipita kale and people voted Chagwa as president. Before elections HH said he will not accept defeat and this what we are seeing now. Ichikonko cilepeya (depression kills)

    • And don’t you remember that Edgar was also saying if HH won’t accept the election results he would sort him out? What does this statement mean? The PF knew what they did to manipulate the results. I’m not a fan of HH but the fact is that he was very unfairly treated. What he’s doing right now is a fight for Justice. The irregularities in those elections were too obvious to ignore. For once, PF people stop pretending.You know deep deep down your hearts you know those elections were manipulated but of course you can never admit this

  40. [email protected] Jeramb0 junior muli chipuba, the red you are talking about looks big geographically but spacely populated as compared to green, it is pipo who where voting and not trees or cows so PF had an area with a large number of voters despite the area looking smaller on the map, get that in you cow dung infested head.

  41. Who knew that Zambia would one day have political prisoners?

    Soon we’ll have people going into exile to neighbouring countries out fear for their own lives.

    Then a brave man will soon retreat to the bush & start a CIVIL WAR.

    That will surely happen as long as LUNGU remains in power. If Sampa had become PF president, this brutality wouldnt have happened. Even the most evil dictator will never admit that he’s a dictator. Already the constitution is being “Fine-tuned”. This SERPENT called PF needs to be beheaded otherwise innocent lives will be lost.

    The influx of MIGRANT ROGUE, POMPOUS TRIBES from N/E Rhodesia has really crippled our once rich nation of N/W Rhodesia. Today they even imprison our people for belonging to a party of their choice. It was a grave mistake by the…

    • CONTD
      ROGUE, POMPOUS TRIBES from N/E Rhodesia has really crippled our once rich nation of N/W Rhodesia. Today they even imprison our people for belonging to a party of their choice. It was a grave mistake by the British to merge the 2 countries in 1911.

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  42. Please lets move on, August 11 is spelt milk. It is time to put in place systems that will make our votes not to be stolen in 2021. Its strategy time.

  43. The presence of our MPs in parliament signifies the acknowledgement of ECL as the Commander in chief. Look, I have always said if don’t recognise the man in the house as your father and when he pays for school you go school. Tell me what do you achieve at the end of day. Even when you complete school you will still claim that no paid for your school fees.

    • @UPND DIE HARD. Do u know the difference between Parliament & National Assembly? I think u flanked social studies, or whatever they call it nowadays.

      MPs salaries do not come from LUNGU’s pocket. Actually 98% of tax comes from regions where UPND won elections, i.e. North-Western Rhodesia.

  44. Maloza,

    Can you please ask your Great Leader, HH, to publish the names of all the 2,000 UPND political prisoners in the Post newspaper. I fear you and your Great Leader are just being delusional and rapidly losing it!

    • @ stringer. Even one political prisoner is one too many. The UPND cadres were arrested for their vigilance to prevent fraud in the elections.

      MAX CHONGO is a free man even after an assassination attempt on an aspiring MP. BOTH him & Dora SILIYA should be in jail. But we see them being rewarded, with Max drinking at High Court Front Lawn Tavern & Dora has been appointed minister. This selective justice is not healthy.

  45. The statement by HH about the petition still being active is a loaded one. When you weigh everything in the statement you quickly see that there are no contradictions at all as you might think at first. I have always said that HH will always shoot himself in the legs at wrong times. But this beats them all. Because of his uncontrollable motor mouth, HH has inadvertently revealed something critically important.
    His statement is actually a veiled threat to some people who may have received dirty money to deliver a favourable verdict on 23rd November or else. This could be a threat of exposure or even a death threat. Now I would like to think that that is uncharacteristic of HH. But then what did you expect from his association with Mafioso like GBM who think nothing of human beings…

  46. Contd….
    But then what did you expect from his association with Mafioso like GBM who think nothing of human beings including their wives? And the bad seed from GBM has fallen on fertile ground because HH is desperate to be president. When you collude with a Mafia criminal you are in it hook, line and sinker as James Hardley Chase would say. At this rate therefore HH is headed only in one direction: life imprisonment. His money will neither buy him the presidency nor save him from jail. Mark my words for soon they will come to pass.

  47. When he gets a long term prison sentence for grand corruption and treason, this is the guy who will go crawling to beg for leniency from a President that he does not recognise.
    God works in wonderful ways, and He does not take pleasure in seeing his faithful flock being insulted. Re: Father Chilinda and Bishop Joshua Banda, HH just stopped short of mentioning their tribe but the intention comes out clearly. Here ba HH is treading on holy ground. Is he truly a Christian?

  48. work harder next time and win by at least 65% not 47%… you will maintain your support base with your attitude because UPND think alike. The vote for Zambia are in hands of people like me that see your hate. Your bitterness is too conspicous. Zambia has a president and its NOT HH.. you are bitter to the point of blocking your voted MPs, what retardedness is this? Your wait will be long 2021 in the meantime ECL is in charge. You are swaggless. even when you meet 2% of your 47% on the street that shouldn’t make you feel votes were rigged! You are such a dull ati educated!

  49. On the other hand LT would be very dull without the Lunatic trio of HH gbm and Nevers. Let them continue entertaining us.

  50. die hard pf.
    the comments we make on this social media should be mature not insults.Yes HE Lungu was sworn as president and it is final. UPDN should behave like the Mr Sata did in 2008 when he lost. He went back to the drawing board and in 2011 he won the elections. Please brothers to mr HH and GBM to them to just accept defeat and let us unit. today it is pf tomorrow it will be UPND GOD’S time is the best. LEST STOP INSULTING OUR LEADERS WHETHER IN OPPOSITION OR RULING, THEY ARE OUR LEADERS.

  51. die hard pf.
    the comments we make on this social media should be mature not insults.Yes HE Lungu was sworn as president and it is final. UPDN should behave like the Mr Sata did in 2008 when he lost. He went back to the drawing board and in 2011 he won the elections. Please brothers to mr HH and GBM to tell them to just accept defeat and let us unit. today it is pf tomorrow it will be UPND GOD’S time is the best. LEST STOP INSULTING OUR LEADERS WHETHER IN OPPOSITION OR RULING, THEY ARE OUR LEADERS.

    • Its actually mismanagement which is like cancer,or rotten tomato it affects every thing around it,The PF mismanagement will eventually turn the whole country into rebels.Where do you find leaders who can spend over 9billion dollars in 5yrs on toys they can not even properly explain to the population and anyone who asks for un explaination,they send armed constables to explain with teargases.Our country is got slow puncture and the man in charge is visibly lost.He thinks demonizing the opposition will help his rule,it wont.Not even extorted support will help us,what will is to be humble and show respect for other citizens irrespective of their political views.I am shocked with people who think having political prisoners after 50yrs of independence is ok.Are you saying B4 PF parties did not…

  52. In his dream HH was already president. Remember he even invited ambassadors to his residence as a rehearsal of his anticipated presidency?

  53. Why are you not mentioning the fact that these members are also uneducated? Do not take advantage of gullible people just because they are hungry!

  54. HH is a terrible liar and its not a surprise because the devil is a liar.
    He lied that there were hundreds of his supporters in Kanfinsa prison only to learn letter that there were only 4 hard core criminals convicted of crimes. HH should have organized bail for those he claims are his supporters. HH is a dangerous liar.

    • People detained without the due process of the law cannot be hard core criminal unless your new constitution has redefined who a hard core criminal is.Following a vehicle carrying ballot papers which in the first place should be moved transperantly cannot amount to being hard core criminal in a country where gun totting Pf candre are let scot free.

  55. HH do not help upnd these days.being a cry baby wont win HH the presidency.by now,upnd could have been finding solutions to how they can win seats and more votes in 6 and half provinces!!if upnd go into 2021 elections with same leaders and plans,only 3 and half provinces shall vote for HH once more.upnd must by now know that politically,Zambia is very divided.those who voted for PF have vowed to never vote for HH while those who voted for upnd in 2016 will do so in 2021 too.but in a democracy,the majority wins,so HH will 100% lose once.PLUS,IF UPND SAY PF STOLE VOTES IN 2016,WHAT WILL STOP PF FROM STEALING VOTES IN 2021?ITS HIGH TIME UPND REPLACED HH IF THEY ARE TO WIN ANY ELECTION IN FUTURE!!

  56. When people like Maureen, Jonas, Miles, Dr. Banda, who were once very close to HH turn away its because they realize the man has lost his marbles. HH is actually so consumed with hate for ECL he can no longer think straight. HH when you hire a herdsman to tender your cattle as they multiply that doesn’t make you a good economist, when you steal from a privatization process using insider information to buy a house that’s illegal and a crime, when you are awarded tenders through a corrupt fellow tribesman who is a professor that doesn’t make you great, besides we can ask Ngaba what led to his taking his life and many more from your firm…you are possessed

  57. Lastly economics and politics are two different things….1000000 jobs in 5 years is easy to achieve its just under 20,000 jobs a year and 1700 a month, building of the national airport, repairs to kariba, extention to farming, work in the energy sector…those will be jobs which ofcourse you cannot see

  58. When is this Mr.HH and Mr.GBM going to leave us in peace without breathing down our necks? BOY AM I TIRED OF THESE TWO VERY SUCCESS BUSINESS MEN. Please just forces on being CHARITABLE IN SOCIETY LIKE YOUR FELLOW BROTHERS NAMELY MR. DANGOTE,MR.BILL GATES,MR.STEVE JOBS, TO NAME A FEW. MAKE MORE MONEY , AND BENEFIT THE POOR AND YOUR FOLLOWERS WHO ARE WILLING TO TAKE THE BULLET FOR YOU. .. IS THIS A POLITICAL PARTY OR ITS A CULT?.PLEASE STOP IT ALREADY. I DON’T KNOW ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE,BUT AM TIRED TO THE BORN WITH THIS NEVER ENDING PETTY BEHAVIOUR. WE NOW HAVE A PRESIDENT ,LET”S JUST FOCUS ON MAKING THE ECONOMY BETTER AND IMPROVING THE COUNTRY AS WELL GIVING ZAMBIA A FACE-LIFT. NOT FRUSTRATING ONE ANOTHER,HOW DO YOU GUYS SLEEP AT NIGHT?

  59. @46 Maloza those are criminals who want to be martyred. By the the US police are hunting for people who displayed Putin ‘s picture under some bridge. Law breakers should be jailed.

    • @ Ndanje khakis. Start with MAX CHONGO & DORA SILIYA, then we’ll know that the Law is not being misapplied.

      Remember the scales on Iustitia (Lady Justice) are not tilted to one side. She is also blindfolded, therefore just becoz Max & Dora are PF they shouldnt be above the law.

  60. The major problem with most PF members including their Führer, chakolwa, is lack of integrity. Parents bring up children in the fear of God. What we are seeing in PF is testimony of poor upbringing where people are taught to look down on other people, not to respect the truth, to tell lies loudly so that those telling the truth will look to be the liers etc. Their is simply no integrity in PF and by integrity I mean deep desire to live honest lives and tell the truth always. The surprising thing is even professional people like Matibini and other judges exhibit this sad trait. It simply means people like Matibini and other Judges have wrecked untold misery to their clients through this behavior which they now espouse in broad day light to please their master. Where is this country headed…

  61. UPND is no longer a political party but it’s turned into a rebel group and please create space in prisons for these few individuals who want to think they popular with just three provinces. They can’t move on and it’s dangerous for a peaceful country like zambia. Cage them

  62. In a home where children r being kept by their stepfather who is alleged 2 ve snatched a woman frm their mother, if they declare that they do not recognise th man of th house as their father, it is only morally right children shud nt eat wat this father provides, shud not harvest frm his farm n shud nt accept any money frm this father they do not recognise.

  63. ABA ma guys Balikongola big and the shylocks are waiting at their door steps. They keep on promising that they will pay back since the elections are not over yet.

  64. Let us boycott all his meat and finish him once and for all,just to show HH we deserve respect as the eletorate.Then he will see who won.

  65. Ala bane kanshi Dented Saunders is Upnd? No wonder he wrote that nonsense which he signed off as political analyst. He can only call himself analyst if he’s not compromised.

  66. Ba LT what is it that you always moderate from my messages. I do not insult or use vulgar language. But my messages are always moderated. Why?

  67. THERE IS CLEAR EVIDENCE OF ELECTORAL THEFT. GOD COMMANDS US NOT TO STEAL.. YOU MUST SHOW LOVE FOR GOD BY OBEYING HIS LAWS.. KNEELING DOWN IN THE HOUSE OF THE LORD AND YET THEIR HEARTS AND BRAINS ARE CONGESTED WITH EVIL. THOUGHTS.

  68. ECL has made it abundantly clear that he does not need your recognition for him to be president. As if that is not enough, he has told your foolish mps to continue making fools of themselves in parliament. Meanwhile, Zambia has moved on without you and the 1,760,000 who voted for you from the 3 provinces.

  69. I predicted that HH will be mad as we approached 11 August 2016, and if you cant this in him today, then I forgive you. How can you say that President Lungu was not legitimately elected when infact H.E. Edgar Chagwa Lungu is the one in State House? Who are you trying to appease?
    In the next five years, PF must ensure that the Seven Provinces that supported and elected President Lungu and PF get the true and reals development rewards by seriously investing in those areas and developing both human and infrastructure so that come 2021, the strategy will be something this cry baby will not even understand.
    Anyway bitterness is written all over his face and the best defence for PF is deliver, deliver and deliver and NOW!!!

  70. Instead of HH calling for meaningless presidential debates through Muvi TV, HH must call for UPND convention, why is he so scared of the basic democratic right? That’s why this guy will NEVER see the corridors of State House because he doesn’t see beyond his nose. If you can be a dictator in your party, what more if you were given the National powers? Ati am a business man and economist, where?

  71. Just yesterday US police arrested an actress and 27 others for obstruction of oil pipeline construction in Dakota. They are still in custody. Arrest law breakers before they break out.

  72. The pain of a robbed vote is nearly endless; those of us that know something about the shenanigans going on at ECZ and government machinery will understand. The only problem is most information is considered classified and that most informants are also liars. My President H.E. HH, has unfortunately fallen prey to lying informants and it is very difficult to undo the damage. Firstly the “informants” said there was rigging, but they could not bring tangible proof save for the ECZ irregularities, Secondly the “informants” planted individuals around polling stations to falsely collect wrong data for the PVT, this misled the entire leadership. Thirdly the misinformation coming via mainstream channels (ZWD) were riddled with these “informants'” lies. My party we are in a confused state…

  73. After Mr Sata ‘s death the cartel through the solicitor general threatened Edgar with arrest for treason unless he surrendered the instruments of power to then vice president Guy Scott. He obliged and Guy took full control of government machinery. Elections were held and the returning officer Irene Mambilima declared Edgar winner, while our own HH played his top 10 song “They Stolen My Vote “. Theme is if Guy wouldn’t prevent Edgar from winning how can HH?

  74. I remember Dean Mungomba (mhirp) sending his wife to US to learn how a first lady must behave just before the 1996 elections.

  75. Maloza @70 I don’t know about Chongo, but as Dora, it was just revenge by my old man and instigated by the Post. She was cleared by the courts. You have among your members Guy Scott who criminally collected money from government when he was minister of agriculture by claiming he had slaughtered tens of thousands of his pigs to avoid swine fever. Of course when you cross over to Upnd, you’re are no longer a thief.

  76. You who insult all the time on behalf of HH shall harvest what you are sowing. Choose your words well, and be awake for words that may make problems more difficult. Your man is running up and down trying to find weak souls to manipulate but now people know they must move on and peace is the vehicle to ride on as we move. We have a President ECL and the rest are leaders of party. The former vice president and remains of the colonial masters (if not exploiters) should appreciate the coolness of the Zambians and not influence HH and GBM to find cause to get us into fitting each other.Like I have always said NO ONE CAN ME IN PARTICULAR TO FIGHT MY OWN BROTHER/ SISTER so he can go to state house.

  77. Those UPND members detained illegally as claimed by HH seem to enjoy being there than outside. The idea is to seek support from well wishers but this does not hold water.

  78. My record shows that we should have more than 2000 hooligans especially with we take Namwala into consideration. I wish 5,000 of them were locked in.

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