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Unlike other parties, PF will go for the general conference when time comes-Lungu

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PRESIDENT Edgar Chagwa Lungu confers with Minister of Justice, Given Lubinda when he presented Christmas gifts at Chilenje Hospital
PRESIDENT Edgar Chagwa Lungu confers with Minister of Justice, Given Lubinda when he presented Christmas gifts at Chilenje Hospital

President Edgar Lungu has said that the Patriotic Front (PF) will go for the general conference when time comes and all leaders will re-contest their positions.

In an interview with ZNBC, the President said that PF is not like some parties that are insisting that they already have credible and reliable leaders and hence no need for elections.

President Lungu said that the general conference will give the party a new lease of life because democracy demands that elections are held after a specific period even at party level.

The President further said that the PF remains united and will not be distracted from its focus on development by people venting their anger and ambitions of taking over from him in 2021.

President Lungu said that he has heard sentiments from the media on the perceived friction in the PF which he says is a small element but insists that the party is united.

The President also told ZNBC news in an interview that Zambia was on course and has good leadership in place focusing on economic development and uniting the country.

PRESIDENT Edgar Chagwa Lungu and Minister of Justice, Given Lubinda tours the Chilenje Hospital
PRESIDENT Edgar Chagwa Lungu and Minister of Justice, Given Lubinda tours the Chilenje Hospital
PRESIDENT Edgar Chagwa Lungu presents a Christmas gift to Ruth Mwamba at Chilenje Hospital
PRESIDENT Edgar Chagwa Lungu presents a Christmas gift to Ruth Mwamba at Chilenje Hospital 

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  1. Lol STATEMENT THAT IS NO STATEMENT AT ALL. OF COURSE PF WILL GO FOR A GENERAL CONFERENCE AT SOME ABITRARY TIME. THE QUESTION KAMBWILI WANTS ANSWERED IS WHEN? KAMBWILI IS MAKING THESE “UPPER-MWAMBAS” PANIC!!!!!

    • @Mokongo Loadist is right, we need to know when the convention will take place……..the sooner the better. People on the grassroots are not happy and signs are showing………..PF lost in the recently held ward by election in Kitwe. People like Kambwili know what is happening at the grassroot level cause every weekend he’s on the CopperBelt (from the time he became MP, Minister and ordinary MP again) ………he’s speaking the mind of an ordinary cadre, unlike those armchair critics in Lusaka.

    • How loathsome! Do you want us to relive that Mulungushi Saga when PF split into two? Was that not PF? Was that not Edgar Lungu and the other Miles Sampa? Is that what you are trying to boast about? If so, then quit being a hypocrite.

    • Leaders should not have the thirsty for power that makes them want to stay forever.

      Dictators are not formed in state houses but they are born that way, and display that character at every level.

      If a leader continues to lead his party without going for elections on the pretext that people want him, then s/he is a dictator.

      Each person has the capacity to say no to what they deem wrong.

      HH has the right to say no to those that call on him to continue. But he is no different from Mugabe by saying ‘people want me’.

      HH and Nawakwi should not run their parties in perpetuity but allow others to pick up from them.

      They should not say ‘but our Constitution does not bar us’. A dictator will joyfully embrace such constitution but a democrat will seek to correct/amend it…

    • All dictators always say that people want them, and that there is no need to change able leadership.

      That is what HH is saying, and by that I see that HH is the only clear self-demonstrated dictator in Zambia.

      The conduct displayed by HH simply tells you and I that if HH ever went to state House he would refuse to come out as long as there are people wanting him to continue.

      HH is already a very dangerous dictator as demonstrated by the firing of Canisius Banda. That is what all dictators do – get rid of anyone calling for democratic processes.

      Zambian must watch out for people like HH who say ‘people want me and so I must continue’. They are terrible dictators.

    • Give HH a break. He is as perpetual loser and he apparently finds joy in losing. Who among the UPND camps want to match/mess with him? All his surrogates sing the wamuyayaya slogans. He is like a “god” to them; a Messiah; god give grand guru. Yaba!

    • This Kambwili business you are talking about is no factor no more. He crushed the ZWD, the post and all real opposion and has nowhere to run to. He lucked foresight and there you are ‘bigging’ the copper wire, golf course and tender stealing corrupt former minister turned a doc (of some sort), as the next big thing in Zambia. Give the intelligent Zambians a break this Christmas.

    • The last time PF had elections in kabwe there where panga wielding thugs who voted by raising of hands and there where court cases and Joshua band trying to reconcile two PF Waring factions and you want UPND to emulate this, EL is clueless on everything, I blame late sata for putting too much faith in a pretender like EL, The only thing EL is good at ia deceiving people, making them believe him for who he is not, amble for brutal.

  2. No need to burn against the bush,which party is that bamdala?and if that is true then how is that of your business….each house has its own malamulu…
    Power is sweet.

  3. How can HH worshippers go for a convention? ??. They can’t because they worship him like a god to them everything he says is the gospel truth even when says he won the election with only 3.5 provinces they believe him. Even when he tells them that the Concourt refused to hear his case when he had 14 days to present evidence they believe him. Even when he has lost Presidential elections 5 times they still continue worshipping him

    • mambwe if we worship H H then you are so blind in your following of ECL how many times has the man lied to the nation and are you not aware of the broken economy as for the con court don t even go there as the judges were con artists paid to discontinue and frustrate a case they never even heard, you need to rethink before typing nonsense

  4. To say we are not like other parties is just being petty. You can’t talk anything minus referring to UPND. Let’s have some maturity in the country. Stick to your party, but also know that your party has worsened the economy of the country.

  5. Just mind your own business bamudala! Lonjezo linadulisa mutu wa yohane! A president who spends his entire term in office talking about the opposition has no agenda for the nation. Kusabailafye! HH and Nawakwi are spent forces and if I were him, I will not be wasting time reminding them to go to conventions. They have demonstrated that they are not democrats!

    • You don’t steal votes from a spent force you maggots are just scared stiff of HH and his great team.Your combined effort with nyama soya could not secure you a clear win you needed violence and open stealing of votes to declare your selves winners.Now the win is haunting you, cant say anything without mentioning HH,never mind in your dreams.

  6. Lungu is ignorant about how and when Leadership Renewal should take place in PF. Elections are not done at a General Conference but at a properly organised Elective Congress. What Kambwili,KBF and others are asking Lungu is what is the date for the Elective Congress? When were Leaders in PF last elected? What does the PF Constitution say about Elections? The current Vice President and Secretary General were appointed by Lungu and not elected at a Congress. Lungu in 2015 at Kabwe was not properly elected President. In fact that Kabwe meeting was a Circus and Lungu ended up imposing himself as President of PF. Members of MMD who were appointed by Lungu thru RB to key posts in govt are not elected members of PF.MMD thru RB have got a lion’s share of these Ministerial Appointments at the…

    • @PF Supporters, my problem is Lungu spending all his time politicking. Its either he is threating PF or opposition political parties. The man should be spending time thinking of how to develop the nation. Is he not the “president?” From his conduct I doubt if he is really-really the President. Lungu should either had addressed the nation, giving the summary of where we coming from and what is expected of him in the coming year. But may be its expecting to much from him, clueless he is! He should leave all this political talk to his dull & illiterate GS. May be he cant cause GS cant comprehend PF’s constitution.

  7. Yes, PF can go for a Conference. However, if the result of that conference is predetermined, then what is the difference?

  8. Kambwili and his friends have a copy of the PF constitution it has answers for what they ask some of them might be angry for being passed over but hey you can be an active party member outside cabinet. Also doctors orders may demand one is not given heavy duty in the interest of long life

  9. If what happened at PF’s last known conference is what this president is alluding to, then we have cause to be concerned about his sanity. Those who live in glassy houses should not throw stones. PF live in one such like.

    • Why worry yourself? If you have issues with that then go and hang. Simple question, who do you think would stand against Hakainde and GBM? god and stand and see if you will win.

  10. Akabwa, akabwa, akabwa, akabwa kalebosa, akabwa kalebosa. Fooooooolish !!!!!!! , not worth reading or hearing, atase. Kaleonale calo nokukalifye mitima yabantu Fuseke iwe ka ka bolala, Ka swenke !!

  11. What a petty person this drunkard. Whoever can advise him, please tell him to mind his own business. After all sham conventions are worse than no convention at all because it is a mockery of democracy. His only pride is lies. Nothing else is left of him. One day he will pay for his crimes. Already people are fed up and he should just prepare for his day of reckoning and most likely it will be 2017.

  12. UPND is personal to holder, HH. UPND is dead without comrade HH. UPND is a one man show. This is why we dread UPND; that should their overzealous leader became president, he will mishandle the delicate anatomic nature of Zambia across it’s tribal weavery. Without intra party democracy and as its leader naturally runs out energy, we encourage HH to his consecutive 99th term running, who cares.

    • Mr President Lungu is always absurdly childish in his politicking. And that goes for bloggers like Thorn in the Flesh. I say so because each Political Party in Zambia has its own map road of doing things. You really cannot make your political party road map as a yardstick to measure other political parties’ road maps. If you want to comment on such issues, restrict your comment on your PF party Lungu. It really childish and foolish to ever raising dust where there is somewhat harmony. Talk about how you are going to stop electricity load shedding, not raising an Eddie against the UPND all the time. You are a boring president.

  13. Of course ba Edward, P.F will indeed go to a sham conference, BUT against party policy /constitution, they will vote using “show of Panga’s & hands” though your constitution clearly states “A leader will be voted in via secret ballot”
    Rig constitution, rig General election, that’s the Chagwa way.
    Just ask Miles Sampa, he’s NEVER been the same mentally since You Edward Chagwa duped him.

  14. I ‘d rather see PF go for the general well being of Zambian economy – like 6% growth ,record forex reserves, record exports ,bumper harvests, more FDI , more output in mines plus more jobs.

  15. When political party leaders change, a natural trigger of party disintegration takes place; birth of new political parties atleast in Zambia is the order of the day. It is so s.exy and I love it. Like late LPM once put it, “for UPND to rule, it’s like imagining the backside of a human being come in front and vice versa.” This statement, with all it’s truthfulness wasn’t received well by UPND at all, at all. Not funny. HH wamuyayaya !

  16. Leaders should not have the thirsty for power that makes them want to stay forever.

    Dictators are not formed in state houses but they are born that way, and display that character at every level.

    If a leader continues to lead his party without going for elections on the pretext that people want him, then s/he is a dictator.

    Each person has the capacity to say no to what they deem wrong.

    HH has the right to say no to those that call on him to continue. But he is no different from Mugabe by saying ‘people want me’.

    HH and Nawakwi should not run their parties in perpetuity but allow others to pick up from them.

    They should not say ‘but our Constitution does not bar us’. A dictator will joyfully embrace such constitution but a democrat will seek to correct/amend it.

    • All dictators always say that people want them, and that there is no need to change able leadership.

      That is what HH is saying, and by that I see that HH is the only clear self-demonstrated dictator in Zambia.

      The conduct displayed by HH simply tells you and I that if HH ever went to state House he would refuse to come out as long as there are people wanting him to continue.

      HH is already a very dangerous dictator as demonstrated by the firing of Canisius Banda. That is what all dictators do – get rid of anyone calling for democratic processes.

      Zambian must watch out for people like HH who say ‘people want me and so I must continue’. They are terrible dictators.

  17. UPNDonkeys are predictable in their dullness. Ukanveka ati muntu aru ni UPND uziba kuti ni dalu same na donkey. The President has said that PF general conference will be held when time comes. If UPNDonkeys want to think for Kambwili, I advise them to read the PF constitution which says elections shall be held every five years. Can anything be simpler than that? Well donkeys always stduggle to understand simple things
    Up to today they cant even understand 14 days limit for presidential petition, this applies to everybodu including Edgar by the way not only HH and his running donkey.

  18. Hh is a danger to society along with his stupid GBM , these fools are undemocratic they are devils of a cult they are morons ,they are all stupidity man can think of

  19. Hh is a danger to society along with his stupid GBM , these fools are undemocratic they are devils of a cult they are morons ,they are all stupidity man can think of

  20. @Terrible, i am not going to return an insult for an insult. I am way above that but i will only urge you to have a human face and desist from calling others donkeys being they sympathize with the UPND. Its indeed shameful to call a human being a donkey when God himself respects humanity! I wish you well.

    • @ sinono it will be nice also if you can give that advise to your comreds in your party who insult the sitting president with so much impunity.

  21. As PF Members we are concerned with what is happening to our Party today. What is happening in UPND is none of our business. Lungu cannot avoid a Convention to elect New Leaders. The Circus in Kabwe did not overwhelmingly elect Lungu as President. Miles Sampa led One PF faction while Lungu led the other faction. All office bearers in PF including the President, Veep and SG have not been elected. They have been imposed. We need a Convention in 2017 to elect New leaders from Top to bottom. The unelected SG should just shut up after losing MP elections in his own constituency on the CB. What we want are firm dates for an Elective Convention in 2017. Lungu and Davies Mwila should deliver an Elective Convention in 2017 without fail. MMD members who are dominating Cabinet and Ministerial key…

  22. SO THOSE OF YOU THAT KEEP REFERRING TO THE SITUATION OF HH AND UPND IN RESPONSE TO THE QUESTIONS AND ISSUES THAT KAMBWILI HAS BROUGHT TO LIGHT – ARE YOU ALL SUGGESTING THAT KAMBWILI SHOULD DEMAND FOR A CONVENTION AND ELECTIONS IN UPND BEFORE HE DEMANDS FOR ELECTIONS IN PF? THIS STORY IS NOT ABOUT UPND. THE ISSUE HERE IS ABOUT HOW THE TRUE PF HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY DISRESPECTED AND SIDELINED. HOW DOES KAMBWILI ANSWER TO BOWMAN LUSAMBO. PF ARE YOU SERIOUS? HONESTLY HOW?

  23. Mr President pf will lose 2021 elections , I voted for you but I want to advise you that your decisions to fire kambwili where wrong and I’ll timed , how do you keep kaizer zulu and fire kambwili and fube Bwalya , these guys campaign d for you , honestly how do you put davies MWILA as SG the guy is useless , how can he put up a statement that those that decampaind pf must o will be allowed after 3 years , politics is about numbers ,ichikupempula ichikulya that’s a bemba saying .

  24. You are the worst president the country has ever witnessed even going to the general conference is a formality useless dictator. Galu iwe!

  25. Please those who have followed the PF from inception can you kindly advise if the PF went for any convention during Mr Sata’s time or was the Kabwe shambles convention held as a result of his death? I also was worry a lot with the idea of a party president single handed appointing the SG. At least this at worst scenario should be done by the Central committee of the party or by an elective conference. Sata started the rot of just appointing SG’s & EL just followed the same.

  26. And HH is the worst opposition leader this country has ever had imagine losing 5 times and his followers are still worshipping him and truth be told it is worship based on tribal lines

    • @26 mambwe if you wondering
      Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States – perhaps one of the greatest statesmen and successful leaders.

      In 1831, Abraham Lincoln failed in business.

      In 1832, Abraham Lincoln was defeated for state legislator.

      In 1833, Abraham Lincoln tried a new business, and failed.

      In 1835, Abraham Lincoln’s fiancée died.

      In 1836, Abraham Lincoln had a nervous breakdown.

      In 1843, Abraham Lincoln ran for congress and was defeated.

      In 1848, Lincoln ran again, and was defeated. Again.

      In 1855, Lincoln ran for the Senate, and lost.

      In 1856, Lincoln ran for Vice President, and lost.

      In 1859, Lincoln ran again for the Senate. He was defeated.

      Then, in 1860, Abraham Lincoln was elected President of the United States.

      What matters most…

    • @ M&L Mwai wamunzako siwako! HH is to selfish with the party’s presidency and that is a bad sign already! We need to see intra-party democracy first before we can entrust anyone with the presidency. Good luck!

  27. What What is the point of pf holding convention when they can steal a national election in broad day light? How can anyone have confidence in them? I will.do you a favour and save you money by saying that lungu will win as candidate. Don’t be naive kikik. Meanwhile vote in a free and fair election by voting nez as best blogger

  28. If HH loved his party, he would have allowed others to lead. Unfortunately, he thinks life is all about him. Come 2021, he is losing again.

  29. Please Please, those MPs who have been charged with the responsibility of legislation. We need our constitution to require that all political parties registered under the Zambian Republican Constitution must hold a convention every five years and that one leader must hold a maximum of two terms. This way we will cartel the plans of these Pseudo dictators that are being formed such those in the UPND and FDD. Legislators please do not just get fat allowances for dozing in parliament bring real democratic change to our great nation. Do not let the cry by one dictator detract you from moving our great nation forward.

  30. @ Loadist: The difference between A. Lincoln and HH is that HH is clinging on to the top of his party and creating what Botanists call apical dominance. This means that able bodied members of the party such as, Garry Nkombo, Jack Mwiimbu, Canicius Banda etc, have no chance of exercising their right or having a go at presidency. Yes HH has a right to contest as much as he lives and lose as many times as possible, but not at the expense of others. He can form HHH party contest there and form HPPH contest there while leaving space for other UPND members.

  31. @26.1 Loadist, dont give examples out of context. And dont insult that great son of America Abraham Lincoln by comparing him with that fatality of a human being HH. Lincoln wanted to serve his people whereas your hpolitical accident HH just wants power. HH will die of bitterness because he will never be president of Zambia. Just look at HH rise to leadership of UPND, a tribal desire to have a tribal president. Just look at the leadership he chooses GBM of all people! And a man he tribally called bemba monkey until it suited his tribal predidential ambitions.
    Compare with the humility of Lincoln to accept what life dished out to him, you yourself talks about the losses and setbacks that he suffered before he became president of USA, Abraham Lincoln knew that Gid’s time is the best…

  32. @26.1 loadist …contd
    Compare with the humility of Lincoln to accept what life dished out to him, you yourself talks about the losses and setbacks that he suffered before he became president of USA, Abraham Lincoln knew that God’s time is the best. Despite his many losses he did not try to destroy his own country but continued to serve it diligently to ensure its prosperity. He did not plant bombs on power lines, he did not deprive 5 provinces of power, he did not burn markets of poor citizens and widow. Finally the citizens of america recognised his deeds and finally God rewarded him with the ultimate prize of President of USA. With these examples tell me what God would reward HH for? For fighting very hard to be the first chuundu president? For attempting to give us GBM as our…

  33. @26.1 Loadist…contd.
    With these examples tell me what God would reward HH for? For fighting very hard to be the first chuundu president? For attempting to give us GBM as our president? For converting from an Economist to a GBM poodle? For trying to mess up our judicial system? For trying to stop or delay the development agenda for our people for five years to portray failure all because HH must become president? For converting Mazoka’s vibrant UPND into UPNDonkeys and court breakers? Come on UPNDonkeys, give us a break! That is not how we select our presidents in Zambia! Unlike you, HH does not believe in the Lincoln story or that he can win ANY election in Zambia, otherwise why would he be making a fool of himself everyday instead of building image correctly for 2021?

  34. Hh is a fool who must not be allowed , he must be treated like a dog even in 2021 its will still be a sad story for him coz he won’t acend to President

  35. Kambwili can not make it to the PF presidency even when ECL down tooled today. The party has more other competent folks to head it, believe me. That’s why I want this to be the last tenure for bo ECL. I am generally sick of the same faces at the political scene. HH needs another political beating by another fresher a.k.a newbie to be taught another political lesson. I bet you that CK cannot beat HH. He lacks logical political analysis and knowledge, mark my words. CK is divisive if not tamed.

  36. We are more interested in knowing how you will fix the economic mess you have created in Zambia. Very dull president indeed.

  37. Lungu and his kaponya supporters will do the zambians a service by minding their own bussiness when it comes to who the UPND want as a leader.

    Concentrate instead on the high cost of living the suffering zambians are going through. Every day we hear of job losses and lungu borrowing more money. You never hear of PF creating jobs or increasing exports.
    To dupe zambians on his failure to run the economy lungu and his kaponya supporters talk about a UPND convention.

    The hungry Zambian is not intrested about a UPND convention, create jobs bwana.

  38. Let’s please prepare the quotation, the British must take over this country. Instead of discussing development he is talking about other parties not going to the convention. What is wrong kanshi?

    • Uli chipuba iwe kwena. This is what you can say, and you are happy that you have said something sensible? You are so fuulish.

  39. Lungu should set some priorities for 2017 on the economy and the party PF. On the economy front what is Lungu going to do? If Lungu wants an IMF Deal then he has to embark on serious economic-political-social reforms for growth. These reforms will include Good Governance, Respect for Rule of Law and in particular Lungu has to stop the violation of Human Rights.On this basis Lungu has to stop violating the Rights of UPND Petitioners. Whether Lungu likes it or not he will not get a cent from IMF without Hearing and disposing off the Petition.
    On PF, Members want a Convention held in 2017 to elect New Leadership of the Party from Top to bottom. Members want firm dates for the Elective Convention to be set now. Lungu should realise that Leadership Renewal in PF is overdue and is being…

  40. Its amazing for some Zambians to believe that the last general elections were conducted freely and fair. Even the results to date are indeterminate. The judicial is divided over the results and nullification of parliamentary seats is an on going process. All this state of affairs just goes to show that the last elections were not up to the standard free and fair elections as we know it. Am aware that others will say, as they do always, that all is gone and Lungu is president. Granted but with pending court appeal against his ill declaration as president implies he is illegitimate or at least only a quarter Zambian people recognise him as president of Zambia. To suggest that UPND does not go to conventions is misplaced. HH has gone to Zambian courts seeking redress for stolen votes from…

    • Who said the judiciary is a custodian of election results?

      Only when there is a genuine petition does the judiciary get involved to hear genuine evidence.

      Not where the petitioner decides to shy away and avoid his own petition, just create a crying basis.

      What an example of failed politics exhibited by some party in Zambia.

  41. Comment:There bitter pipo on this platform imagine even reachng 2 de extent of calling de presidnt ati Galu iwe…It seems they are all comng frm tht one Tribe wich I won’t mention its name 4 fear of being insulted,de president ddnt even mention any Party ‘s name but de guilty ones re always afraid hence de insults at him.

  42. In Zambia, some regions take stealing as part of their entitlement and is part of their DNA. When we state that Zambian votes were stolen, they arrogantly refuse as its natural for thieves to disclaim of their theft. These people are now defending their status quo as thieves and go for other parties to hoodwink Zambians that all is well. Ney!, its on record world over votes were stolen by PF in 2016 elections. Glad, am not near the hypocrites.

  43. UNFORTUNATELY WHEN IT COMES TO CONVENTIONS, ALL THE THREE MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES ARE A DISASTER. PF HAS NEVER HAD A GENUINE CONVENTION. LOOK AT THE ONE THAT USHERED IN ECL FOR INSTANCE, WHAT DO U CALL THAT? NEXT ON LINE, MUTATI’S CONVENTION MANAGED BY KANITUNDILA? NEXT IN LINE, UPND’S FAILURE TO HOLD EVEN A FAILED ONE LIKE THE OTHER TWO. MY POINT IS, BOTH THE PERSON WHO FAILS THE FINAL EXAM & THE ONE THAT NEVER WROTE THE FINAL PAPER ARE FAILURES.

  44. Was it PF which had a convention in Kabwe and somebody was “elected” by a show of hands a day after there was another convention? There was so much panga raising that Chindwin Barracks was on full alert!

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