Heritage Party leader Brigadier Godfrey Miyanda holds a note and pen during the meeting to demand for the release of the draft Zambia constitution
FILE: Heritage Party leader Brigadier Godfrey Miyanda holds a note and pen during the meeting to demand for the release of the draft Zambia constitution

ONE-OFF RESPONSE TO COMMENTS ON MY PETITION TO THE SPEAKER OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY PUBLISHED ON 7TH MARCH 2017

[Brig Gen Godfrey Miyanda – 10th March 2017]

Those who follow my debates will testify that it is my practice to respond personally to all bloggers who comment on my articles published by the Lusaka Times (LT). On this occasion I did not do so and I feel I owe the people an explanation. SOMETHING DID HAPPEN, more like a whirlwind or the carpet being swept off my feet. Soon after the publication I received a verbal message by cell phone that the Judgement would be delivered on 9th March at 09. 00 hours – welcome message but a surprise all the same! Please note that some of the comments by bloggers required that I delve into the merits of the case so I judged that that would not be prudent in view of the imminent judgement.

Indeed the Judgement was delivered on Thursday 9th March 2017 and I “lost” the case, but only that battle! It was a two-hour judgement that I consider a landmark one as it pronounced some important principles, including a hint at the need for an “Appex” Court as in the South African situation. I know that the judgement will attract a lot of attention from legal experts and enthusiasts. But as the Petitioner/Complainant I feel obliged to comment even before the experts do and even though the Speaker’s Office has not responded to me. Unfortunately the Judgement was NOT given to me as the Court indicated that they would release the judgement later. Since judgements by the Constitutional Court are final and there is no appeal, I shall comment on it as soon as I am given a copy of it.

I found some comments by bloggers interesting and deserving of my reaction. As a practice I do not comment or respond to personal comments or those that do not address issues raised in an article; however I feel I should comment now and make clear some misplaced responses that if left unanswered maybe, as I have been told before, an “admission of guilt”!

I have categorised the responses in three groups: Those in Support; Those Against and Those who are Lost. But one who, for now, does not fall into any of these groups but deserves acknowledgement is [email protected] Nostradamus. To him I say “observation noted about the apparent delayed publication. Pse note that the publication was NOT a Press Release but a Petition directed to the Speaker of the National Assembly. So as a matter of courtesy and protocol I had first to serve the Petition on the Speaker’s Office and give them some time to peruse and, if they saw fit, to react; sincere apology @Nostradamus”. As for the categories: to Those For and Those Against – I say that they deserve a proper and full response after I have studied the landmark judgement. I believe we shall all enjoy and benefit from the debate that will ensue as I shall give my reasoned side as ‘one of the combatants’ in this modern David and Goliath contest!

For now I wish to comment on one @Ndake Khakis whose mission is to discourage and intimidate other contributors but does not address the issues at hand. Not only was he lost but he/she/it (“it” because it could be a computer!) fabricated or lied as usual. He/she/it posted, inter alia, that ‘You General Miyanda have no right to petition ANYTHING! I will never forgive you….You supported the incarceration of KK’. I say to you @Ndake Khakis, you harbour a lot of misplaced hatred, the same hatred you are accusing me of with regard to KK. When the real MMD history is written you will find that I was one of the very few within the Cabinet who controlled the unbridled hatred and intended retribution against KK. Even your claim that I supported KK’s incarceration is completely false. Some of those who were involved have passed on, others are still around but I was NOT one of them. If you harbour hatred do not join debates on my articles for they are a serious search for direction and the wellbeing of our nation and all its peoples. Avoid lies and innuendo on this medium or else just keep quiet. Those who have agreed with you are equally lost like the one who alleged that I misled the nation on ‘load-shedding’. I have never commented on this topic publicly, though I have strong views on the topic. I have never joined your side as you have alleged; I do not know you or “your side”; perhaps you should favour me with your identity, maybe I may remember you and take back what I have said – till then you have definitely lied!

It is a pity that you, @Ndake Khakis, turn serious discussions such as my petition into cadre quarrels or election campaign. If you and your ilk continue along the same unproductive and unhelpful path, I shall never respond to any of your comments. Let us use this forum to cross-pollinate. I am always ready to shift my position on an issue but you have to persuade and convince me with reasoned comments on the actual subject matter. Thus far you have miserably failed, so it is Aluta Continua with the search for Good Leadership and Good Governance in Zambia. All Zambians are free to contribute. This posting is not intended for debate but for my clarification and apology. Bloggers are, as usual, free to post their comments on this posting but I shall not respond until I have studied the Judgement of the Constitutional Court. Have a blessed day.

GODFREY MIYANDA,
BRIGADIER GENERAL
A CONCERNED ZAMBIAN
[10TH MARCH 2017]

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    • Brigadier, I am saddened to hear you met HH and requested to join UPND to fill the vacancy left by Canisius Banda.

      I thought you are better than that, please dont do it.

      Thanks

      BB2014,16

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    • Thank God we have genuine people like Gen Miyanda who has had a stellar career and in my view would have made the second best president in Zambia (after KK off course). This is a man who tells it like it is! In fact, I do believe matters the Gen has raised that people of Ndanje Khakis calibre would not understand. It boggles my mind that we as Zambians continue to “shoot the messenger” in most debates so I will move away and concentrate on helping to build a better Zambia!

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    • @Ndanje Khaki, please don’t respond to my President. Now I will be on you, I ask you to physically fight me outside, nga uli mwaume.

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  1. So basically you are responding to only one blogger who seem to have hurt you so much. Well, they say truth hurts!

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  2. General Miyanda is one of the few crop of leaders that mean well to Zambia. If there are 2 humble citizens in zambia, The General is on number 1. Thank you sir for all your contributions we read on this platform, it enlightens some of us.

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  3. Thanks general for putting as the Star of your topic. Sorry if I hurt you and as Catholic I will use this lantern period to forget what ever happened or not happened in the past. Also I will not interfere with your liberties as a fellow Zambian. Wishing you a happy and problem free Day

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    • LIAR, LIAR, LIAR, ndanje khaki should be excommunicated by the Catholic church for peddling lies meant to create hatred that can lead to genocide in Zambia.
      It is critical for those commenting on national issues to know what is being discussed, context of discussion and the truth or inaccuracies from on going narratives and justify your views. NOT LIES as is the case with ndanje.

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    • As a Catholic I don’t know any period in our church called ‘lantern period’. A lantern is a lamp. What we have in our church is ‘Lenten Period’ meaning a time of Lent. Let’s be sure of what we are talking about.

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    • Ndanje Khakis, there is absolutely no reason for you to apologise. Some of us who were there at the time remember that this General then held a radio call session to defend government and one woman who called said the bullet which grazed Kaunda’s heard should have gone deeper, WHAT WAS MIYANDA’S RESPONSE TO THAT WOMAN’S WISH?

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    • This is a mark of a man and not a male, and a mark of a man who is able to see his wrong. It is rare and a true mark of a true and patriotic citizen.

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    • [email protected] Khakis at 2.16 pm: I take serious note of your comment. My little advice, if you will accept it, is that try to stick to the topic being discussed and I believe you will never go wrong and no one will misunderstand you. In the same spirit I will welcome comments from you that will help upgrade the debate that is ensuing at a particular time. As an example read the comment [email protected] wa mpezeni – do you see this as relevant debate even if it is a question? What is the relevance even if it might be true that I abandoned my aged father? See my answer at 31.1. I wish you well during this special period of your Lent///

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  4. General Miyanda is one of the few crop of leaders that mean well for Zambia. If there are 2 humble citizens in zambia, The General is on number 1. Thank you sir for all your contributions we read on this platform, it enlightens some of us.

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  5. General Miyanda, i know you will not respond to my posting. But what i have observed is that even yourself has a hatred over others. I can deduce this from the tone of your response. Imagine if someone was close to you, what would you do. As a leader yourself, you should not respond in that manner. Simply educate someone no matter how many times if you want to win one to yourself. Strategic leadership is one where you use people’s comments; both positive and negative to advance to advance the welfare of the same people. Strategic leadership has got no “i” but “us/we”. Being an intelligent leader you are, i know you understand what i mean.

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    • [email protected] K P at 2.21: What is “Strategic Leadership” as regards debates? I was correcting @Ndake to stick topic so I cant say “us/we are wrong”. Further what is your rationale for advising me to use ‘us/we’ instead of ‘I’ when I am referring to myself? I wrote the article so why should I use ‘us/we’ to include you who didn’t write it? To everything there is a season: a time for ‘I’ and a time for ‘us/we’. About tone, remember Lord Jesus Christ whipping people who were desecrating the place of worship? Very appropriate tone!

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  6. Ndanje khaki is a pathological LIAR, bloggers beware now after being unmasked by the general, he will masquerade under a different user name.

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    • Sorry my friend I’ve never told lies and see no reason to use an alias. I’ve just stated above that I will not interfere with the concerned contributor and as person of my word you’ll not make me start again what I have abandoned. This would make a liar. Besides those actually happened and the subject has simply exonerated himself.

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    • The word blogger is derived from weblogger, someone who keeps a weblog, a diary on the internet.
      That is not the case here – we are just commenters.

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    • @Bwana Ndobo you are a proud blogger!
      BLOG
      Noun
      1. a website containing a writer’s or group of writers’ own experiences, observations, opinions, etc., and often having images and links to other websites.
      2. a single entry or post on such a website:
      verb (used without object), blogged, blogging. blogger

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  7. @General Miyanda!dont waste your time on empty PF cadres such as this ndanje khakis. He has nothing to offer apart from licking Lungu’s sick ass. please next time pay no attention to this Id!ot.

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    • Miyanda can defend himself now in any way possible but his behavior at that time does not require a PF cadre to censure. Some of us were equally annoyed the way he did things then. Just the same way we accuse PF of mistreating those who do not toll there party lines, we also saw Miyanda in the same manner when he was in the corridors of power.

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  8. This man is a reservoir of knowledge. Has the military got academies where this man can go and lecture? I feel that we have under utilised you general. Even the University of Zambia should be organising lectures where such brains can go and share their knowledge.

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  9. So the usual suspects who are all after curtailing free information and debate that is normal in a democratic council have been mentioned by the General.

    General, we know them well here on LT, they are the very ones that support closing independent media, victimisation, harassment and call divergent views to PF treason.

    Don’t mind them.they are lost as you put it.

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  10. Ba General I have always read your posts and you always engage in constructive debates which should be responded to with equally logical and constructive “for and against” reasoning. For me, I comment less on topics that I don’t fully understand but I always follow the debates from both side of the debate. Can I solicit a comment from You on the recent published article by Mwine Lubemba Chitimuklu entilted “The Collapse of the legal system in Zambia” thanks.

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  11. @kaputo davis please know that I neither cadre or member of any party.You were not there when we formed MMD and out of disappointment left and formed FDD. You dont even know why Miyanda refused to join us and instead formed HP. You dont even know why HH collapsed despite having more MPs than other parties.

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    • Ndanje. please shed more light on why the General “refused” to join FDD. Unofficial news circulating then was that the General was deliberately misled by some FDD members over the time of your maiden meeting to, among other things, elect your party leaders. The General, it was said, arrived at the venue shortly after the meeting ended. What really happened?

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    • [email protected] Khakis 10/3/17 at 3.10 pm: so you formed the FDD? Now I understand. But I recommend you write an article on how FDD was formed, revealing the truth as you know it, including mentioning how I refused to join. Address what @mk at 11/3/17 5.56 am has posted. Then I shall respond. Having read your explanations my position now is that I am ready to engage you as long as you stick to the topic at hand and raise relevant issues; remember to be coherent so that others do not misinterpret your contributions; what you do is your choice///

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  12. The fact that this man has time from his busy schedule to respond to mostly uncivilised and inarticulate comments is in itself alone a breath of fresh air. His support for free speech is admirable. I’m not sure what he would be like if he yielded unbridled power as being the one occupying State House. But how I wished that current so called leaders could have thick skins to engage their critics in an open debate, instead of rushing to shut them off while hiding behind the cover of the law.

    It’s refreshing to see Ndanje Khakis humbling himself and not engage in an unnecessary public argument with the General. However, General I would like to think that Ndanje Khakis was probably coming from the fact that you were a Veep at the time and definitely you can’t run from the fact that you…

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      However, General I would like to think that Ndanje Khakis was probably coming from the fact that you were a Veep at the time and definitely you can’t run from the fact that you were part of a govt that persecuted KK (I think any average and reasonable person in Ndate Khakis’ position would come to the same conclusion). I understand there is something called ‘collective decision’ by the cabinet where you are forced to agree if the majority say so. However, there is also something resigning in principle if you don’t agree with cabinet decisions. KK’s persecution was really a big deal and resigning would have been commendable decision if you didn’t agree with it – it would have cleared your conscience. I’m not accusing you of anything (you know I’m…

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      I’m not accusing you of anything (you know I’m always your admirer) but I found your response to refute Ndanje’s accusations to be unconvincing, simply because none of us could attest to what you are saying as we weren’t there.

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    • [email protected] Maverick at 3.23: Some of your points are valid. But I urge you revisit your @14.1 and 14.2 – you have attempted to justify relevance of Ndanje’s posting. It means Ndanje has succeeded in diverting your attention from the subject at hand. Pse notice that he accused me of supporting KK’s INCARCERATION (arrest/imprisonment). I took this to refer to the arrest of KK on Christmas Day which, although I was in Govt, I read about in the newspapers. If you were the Invigilator, marking Ndanje’s test paper on ”The Petition of Godfrey Miyanda’, how many marks would you give him? Would I be wrong to suggest ZERO?!!!

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  13. One funny thing with some people here if ever the General praises Lungu all these claims of the General bein ” humble. Source of wisdom will be replaced with njalamupaya.

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  14. This is very interesting but one thing I know is that this is a country for all of us and social media has presented an opportunity for us to exchange ideas and knowledge harmoniously and its our duty to make this country a better place for us and future people. Using provocative and hurtful language wont take us anywhere. Let us just learn to be civil and empathetic as we debate and criticise each other in our quest to reach consensus. Wish all of you God’s blessings, love and grace, and hope the Under 20 will lift the cup on Sunday.

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  15. Love him or hate him, General Miyanda, a rare and truthful man that we still have. A man who deserves a lot of respect, a cradle of wisdom. General, please don’t be discouraged by negative comments, some people don’t know you well and some people are just malicious. Mostly, malicious people do what they do, due to very poor upbringing making it difficult to turn them into responsible people in adult hood.

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    • If only we could all take our time to understand the depth of reasoning the General attaches to his contributions we’d learn a thing or two at being patriots and not partisan!

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  16. General, could you consider writing about the suppression of the free press and what it is an indicator of. Take it from the angle of attributes of a dictator. You don’t need to mention anyone but merely state the results of your research. I am asking you because your seem to have a knack for well researched arguments which I think we would benefit from as a group. Its a request to be refused or agreed.

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    • MyZambia, statesmen do not blog on Lusaka times to look for attention from people, instead they do their research and write books that can be of long benefit to the generations to come.

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    • [email protected] at 16.39: ignore [email protected]; I accept your request; I hope I can make it soon, maybe by 2moro or Monday as I am preparing for Court on Tuesday next. What comes to mind is an eminent military historian whose works I admire. On the requested topic I will let him speak so that even those who have doubts about the value of dialogue such as [email protected] will benefit. Have a blessed weekend///

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  17. How do can one copyright the comments on LT blog for reproduction.

    Always appreciate Gen Miyanda’s commitment to engage with bloggers.

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  18. @ Kabu 4.4 I just felt bad because of the context in which my submissions were construed. I just thought this was a debate which could be countered square on without injuring one’s feelings. I normally don’t encourage hate no matter the situation. But this was exactly what it was thought to be. However without lapsing I would like to thank you even those who have decided to call me a liar

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    • Ok mate but remember that we also know which class of people were allowed to make calls whenever he was on ZNBC for his call sessions that time and those whose calls were blocked. The man just knows perhaps that Zambians have short memories.

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  19. This general is delusioned just like OVAL HEAD. In his preamble he said he will respond to those who were for, against and the lost. But he has just mentioned 2 people. @nostrudumas was not even supposed to be mentioned because he is always off topic and responding to himself using another name @ndobo. He chose not to mention people who are more reactive like @kudos @peace and many others. This shows cowardice in the man of general. How can he surely support retards like @chilyanta, @jayjay, @spaka kiki. This clearly shows the level at which this general suits.
    To be posting articles on LT is sign of irrelevance and luck of confidence in you from the public. If you are a man of substance your articles should be on reputable media houses not tumfweko or zwd. Don’t cheapen yourself like…

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    • [email protected] oval head at 5.57 Read again with understanding: 1. I was specific when I mentioned @Nostradamus – he was NOT part of the critique but needed an explanation. 2. For “Those For and Those Against” I identified their relevant contributions which need a substantive response after I have had sight of the Judgement. 3. For “Those Who Are Lost” I identified @Ndake Khakis as the Main Man and went on to identify the rest as ‘those who agreed with him or his supporters’. So I have addressed all, for the purposes of my critique of The Lost. Understand what you read before commenting. Goodwill to those who observe Lent///

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  20. Thanks for passing by, General, your response is greatly appreciated. We may not agree with everything you said but thanks for taking your time to respond.

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  21. General Miyanda keep up the good fight and your ethical approach to issues with integrity.However ,you should know that most bloggers are NOT people to be taken seriously and thus ignoring some of them is actually the better option .

    Mushota and Ndake Khakis fall into that infamous category

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  22. Brigadier General Miyanda, your articles are always very well articulated and well researched and you always sound like a very well informed citizen. My trouble in you has been trying to find an answer as to why a man with your knowledge and expertise did not form a government acceptable to most zambians during your time in government? I truly admire the way you articulate issues but your time in government does not correspond with the way you portray the governance system when you are not part of it. I admire your in depth thought of issues but is this just for blogging or is it what you can actually do.
    I will still admire your work rate sir………..

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  23. A couple of things:
    1) Brig General Miyanda has my admiration of being a down to earth leader be it in govt or not- this man would ride a bicycle along the Kafue Road from Makeni to town and payback whatever funds remained from overseas assignments when he served in govt!
    2)As much as KK was a great leader and did good things he was not perfect and did make some mistakes, but I pray from the heart Ba Miyanda has forgiven him- a mark of a true leader is also the power to let bygones truelly be bygones as painful it may be- something Hungry Hyena (HH) is incapable of.
    3)If Brig General Miyanda would consider working with the likes of Peter Sinkamba I’m sure we would have a more objective opposition than the blood thirsty United Dunderhead sa.tan.ists!

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  24. This general is delusioned just like OVAL HEAD. In his preamble he said he will respond to those who were for, against and the lost. But he has just mentioned 2 people. @nostrudumas was not even supposed to be mentioned because he is always off topic and responding to himself using another name @ndobo. He chose not to mention people who are more reactive like @kudos @peace and many others. This shows cowardice in the man of general. How can he surely support retards like @chilyanta, @jayjay, @spaka kiki. This clearly shows the level at which this general suits.
    To be posting articles on LT is sign of irrelevance and luck of confidence in you from the public. If you are a man of substance your articles should be on reputable media houses not tumfweko or zwd. Don’t cheapen yourself…

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    • @HH OVAL HEAD some times dont comment because you are one of those people who seem to thrive on hate speech/comments.read an article and make sure you understand it before you comment and when you do stick to the topic,lets be objective as the good General has said not every one who says anything contrary to the PF is enemy of the state nor should they be treated as such.

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  25. Yoram Mumba and Mundia Sikatana were surprised that Godfrey Miyanda still maintained that he wasn’t involved in the coup years after it happened when they planned everything together. The fact that he was acquitted didn’t mean that he didn’t take part, he just covered his tracks so well that no trace was left and that could be attributed to his military training. The other reason was that they had all agreed that no one should betray another. So they found it strange that their colleague still continued to insist that he wasn’t involved in the plot to overthrow KK long after it had happened and was of no consequence

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    • [email protected] at 6.29: I do not comment on defamatory publications such as yours. But a ‘friendly advice’ – in the recent High Court judgement in the case of Miyanda versus Kavindele, which I won, the Court held, inter alia, that a republication of a defamatory statement is a fresh publication and the author of it (in this case you) is liable as the originator. You are clearly ignorant of the law of libel. I advise you to steer away from topics that add no value to debates such as the one I had raised. It is up to you what you decide. Godfrey Miyanda, Brigadier General///

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  26. There were serious allegations in Minga,Petauke, that the Gen is a bad man who despite his high status abandoned his father to a pauper later dying in advanced age and buried in his absence in embarrassing circumstances…..father of vp. gen is it true?

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    • [email protected] wa mpezeni at 11.46 am: stop lying by spreading rumours, thus manufacturing hate messages under the guise of ‘allegations’ for innocent people to believe, detest and despise me; a clever stigmatisation trick, usually by politicians. Yes I was VP and when my mother became ill I brought her and my father to Lusaka to live with us at Government House. She passed on at 85 at UTH and we buried her at Minga (Petauke), accorded a royal burial. My dad passed on 1997 and I took the body and we buried him at Minga. President Chiluba assigned Minister Sata to represent him. SHAME ON YOU; STOP RUMOUR-MONGERING, STOP HATE MESSAGES///

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  27. @25 having a different opinion doesnt mean one is infamous. It’s common among Zambians to scandalize anyone who sides with government. I put it straight that I will never again engage Mr Miyanda again. But I see most of you want to excite me into joining your battle. No I refuse!!!?

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    • [email protected] Khakis at 2.47: after reading [email protected] Khakis at 2.16 pm and responding at [email protected] Miyanda at 5.05 pm I am very sad to read [email protected] which contradicts his Lent message to me. At [email protected] he posted a ‘sorry’ message stating that “as a Catholic I will use this lantern period to forget whatever happened or did not happen in the past”. He also wished me a happy and problem free Day! But his posting at [email protected] at 2.47 pm he has declared, I suppose still as a Catholic, “I put it straight that I will never again engage Mr Miyanda again….. NO I refuse!!!?” As you wish, Ndake Khakis, but I still wish you well during your Lent period/// AM DONE FOR TODAY!!!

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    • Gen my intention is to avoid what I call “bakasongelakanya ” because they want me to say something about you that will be fodder for them. HAVE A NICE WEEKEND. It embarrassed me to be the “center of attractions “

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  28. Gen. I admire you and yo deep sense of looking at issues how i wish the Zambian majority can see through you and allow you to be listened to.You are a rare breed in Zambian politics.Thanks Gen.and have a good day.

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