The Zambian government has submitted a fresh indictment that United Party for National Development (UPND) Hakainde Hichilema (HH) and others wanted to declare himself as President in Mongu
The state has been allowed to amend the indictment on the treason charge against UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema after the the Lusaka Magistrate ruled that the state failed to mention any overt Act made by HH to overthrow President Lungu and his government.
In the fresh indictment, the prosecutors have stated that Mr Hichilema wanted to declare himself President of the Republic of Zambia at the Kuomboka Ceremony in Mongu.
And Mr Hichilema has pleaded not guilty to the charges of obstructing the presidential motorcade and using insulting language.
Earlier, Lusaka magistrate Greenwell Malumani ruled that the prosecution failed to state any Overt Act made by HH in order to overthrow the government.
Referring to the Shamwana case, Magistrate Malumani said the charge was clear and there was evidence of meetings held in planning the capture of former president Kenneth Kaunda.
“In the light of the foregoing, the purported treason charge exists in a vacuum,” ruled magistrate Malumani, but clarified that the charge of treason could only be tried in the High Court.
He added that the subordinate court could not quash such an indictment but open an inquiry instead.
“It is of the opinion of this court that the charge has no substance to be submitted for trail,” he said.
Magistrate Malumani allowed the state to submit a fresh indictment of treason against Mr Hichilema which would be heard in the High Court.
The State, however, produced the indictment accompanying other charges with an addition of Overt Acts committed by Mr. Hichilema.
In Overt Act one, the state claimed that on April 5, 2017 HH together with others conspired to mobilise an advance party to ensure that he was to be accorded the status of President of the Republic of Zambia at the Kuomboka Ceremony in Mongu.
‘Hakainde Hichilema and Wallace Chakwa, On the 5th day of April, 2017 at Lusaka in the district of Lusaka province, of the republic of Zambia, jointly and while acting together, did conspire to mobilise an advance party to ensure that Hakainde Hichilema was accorded the status of the president of the Republic of Zambia at the Kuomboka ceremony in Mongu,’ read the new charge.
The second overt act is that Hakainde Hichilema obstructed the presidential motorcade.
In Overt Act two, the state submitted that on April 8, 2017, HH and over 60 other unknown people and being on a convoy of motor vehicles on the Mongu Limulunga Road did obstruct the presidential motorcade, an act that was likely to cause death or grievous harm to the President of the Republic of Zambia, in order to usurp the executive power of the state.
Magistrate Malumani said he could not allow the treason charge to be submitted jointly, but received the indictment before calling for a break to study the details in chambers.
Mr Hichilema took advantage of the break to chat with his wife and other family members.
When the hearing resumed, the separated indictment was read out and Mr Hichilema pleaded not guilty to the charges of obstructing the presidential motorcade and using insulting language.
His co-accused also said they understood the charge but pleaded not guilty.
Guys, adjourned to 10 May? HH aza choka ni mpeta mu prison. What’s he doing with his time in there? Reading? Working out?
Failing to come up with evidence to support their treason charge…kikikiki
This must be very embarrassing for the state prosecutors. The police went and vandalised HH’s house and yet they don’t have charge for him. They keep amending it. How is it possible that HH planned treason with his driver, chef and gardner? What kind of a cruel system keeps an innocent man looked up for nothing. Christian country we are!
The foo1ishness being exhibited by these PF minions in government is like leprosy of the brain, its incurable & there’s no two way about it
It’s very hard to prove intent without any action. Now that the blocking of president is out, I wonder what evidence the prosecution has to prove that HH wanted to declare himself president . We all now he was going to the Kuomboka like everyone else. He did not go to a radio station and said that ” from now on I am the president ”
Anyways, this is just an embarrassing case for the country..
What a joke of a trial and a complete waste of my tax money and time!!!
This is pathetic display of adolesscence by lungu and his PF gang,,,, showing their little small mavuzi in public, even when they try to blow the tiny brown mavuzi, the public cannot see, worst still trying to apply saliva to wet them so that they be straightened against the skin, the public still cannot see.. Sickening!!!!!
Ati “HH and 60 other unknown people” ? GBM was in that convoy and was not charge , just as Kakoma and many known UPND mps. Why is only HH and his servants charged? In captain solo’s case all the soldiers that went with him to Znbc that morning were all charged with treason. If the 60 vehicles that blocked the president committed a treason case, the prosecutor can’t say that they are unknown when video and picture evidence is there to prove who was there.
The operative word in the charge is “WANTED TO…….”,
meaning the prosecution must prove this intention beyond reasonable doubt.
It will be easier to find a dog with horns that to prove this. Okey, let’s try finding a chicken with teeth.
Too hard, what about finding the batakoz of a snake??
It’s clear the charges only exist in Lungu’s head. But the judge said:
“In the light of the foregoing, the purported treason charge exists in a VACUUM,” ruled magistrate Malumani.
In short he implies Lungu’s head is a vacuum. (No bongo-bongo)
The incompetence shown in the first charge and the subsequent amendment is outrageous, but it becomes even more astounding and incomprehensible when you consider that the president is a Lawyer by profession and a senior one judging by how long he has been one. Then you cast your mind to the fact that they have had at least 2 weeks to come up with a more humanly understandable amendment and suddenly it hits you. They don’t care that the charge is wrong or even non existent, they only care that their victim is locked up without any possibility of bail.
Flashback
On 20th June 2016 Lungu said: “HH nga akakana ukusumina ama results akamona efyo nkamucita (If HH refuses to accept the results, he will see what I will do to him).
This treason case is about vengeance, pure evil of lungu.
Is this really happening or am just dreaming? What drama back there in my country. Settling scores in this manner will just end up bringing more poverty on citizens. People are supposed to be productive that time around but busy following a stup1d case where even a grade one knows it does not hold any water.
I now understand why the police went and stormed his house…. they suspected he may have had weapons… and had to be prepared.
We.are now hearing something quite serious as contained in overt act one of the amended charges
What’s left is the evidence to support the charge…
Treason is a serious charge that cannot just be slapped on someone for no good reasons.
This now explains that GBM is just being used by HH
Now now we have been made.aware of other activities by HH, let the law take its full course.
There’s a limit to which you can push your delinquent behavior
It’s not allegation.
It’s a fact.
Keep here in ten four greyed walls.
Thanks
BB2014,16
A few days ago my son (six years old) said to me – Daddy, when I get big I want to be President. Are the police going to come and arrest him now?
Must I tell him never to say that? What is happening to OUR ZAMBIA!
Very dull prosecutors and useless lawyer. Well not surprising if their chief lawyer himself Lungu does not under law nor does he follow it. The only thing Lungu has brought to this country is thuggery and criminality. Lungu’s presidency will have no good memories. Sometimes it better to have a name of integrity than power. HH must sue the state to the fullest capacity. Demand 1 trillion which he should donate to all poor farmers, single mothers and suffering well meaning Zambians.
He got his wish. He is now President of Treason Row!
Mutinta is happy, she has peace and is enjoying her life right now without the crazy stubborn illusionist.
– 1st day they said treason was becoz HH refused order to stop his convoy. It’s just a simple traffic offence.
– On 2nd hearing they flip-flopped & said HH on unknown dates btwn 6th October 2016 & 26 March, HH wanted to topple Kaminamisa (trying to include Luanshya incident in the case).
– Today they flip-flop again & now claim HH wanted to hijack Kuomboka reception & receive presidential treatment thereby declaring himself president.
I’ve always said Lungu was a dull lawyer. (was becoz he was debarred by LAZ for stealing a client’s money, a widow). Now here’s the proof for all to see.
Pure comedy!!
He should remain incarcerated. He made this bed, he should continue sleeping in it.
He will come out a total Garbage with slow puncture. Watch the space. Boma ni Boma! And we all know and it is in the public domain that Malumani is Tonga. So, what do you expect??? He defending HH indirectly.
THE REAL PROBLEM WITH UPND AND ITS SUPPORTERS IS THAT HH CAN NEVER DO WRONG ONLY BECAUSE HE IS A TONGA LEADING A PARTY FOR TONGAS.
BUT THAT THEREFORE DISQUALIFIES HIM FROM LEADING ZAMBIA.
TO TONGAS, TRIBE COMES FIRST AND NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.
It’s with great sadness that I have decided to withdraw from blogging sites temporarily for the whole load of reasons.
1) I realize the bloggers are not being listened to when they cry out through this forum
2) The times have indeed changed and the language used has to interpreted to work out the meaning of the rant (politician will often not care to read between the lines).
3) Being from the school I have difficulty if relating to the youngsters of today who have their ‘unique’ way of expressing opinions
During my withdrawal I will be reflecting of the way forward. I ask Amos Chanda to listen to the Young people who have a right to be heard by the politicians and their rants be interpreted the Presidential press and relayed to the President.
Please don’t laugh at the prosecutors!
How do you tell a dictator like Hitler or Mussolini that his opponent has no case when he is fixated on punishing his opponent at all costs? You keep lying all is well to cheer him up!
Prosecutors know their intentions!
To embarrass Lungu cos they know HH is innocent!
They know the case will be impossible to prove!
The treason charge is bogus. Even in the charge of obstructing the motorcade they would have to show that he was directly instructing the driver(s) not to give way. Having said that I have zero care for this egotistic president wanna be i.mbicile
Ok but apa lol. Musiyeni chabe. Ki ki ki kkkk
@Neutral – great comment! How to please a dictator! You have to play along and hope that soon he loses interest. Unfortunately, Lungu has a one track mind. It is clear that he is obsessed with HH, what HH owns and what HH stands for. HH absolutely infuriates Lungu. Lungu probably does not sleep as he meditates on how to fix HH.
Regarding HH’s plan to declare himself president in Mongu, only investigators have the duty to prove.
But the straight forward case is the one below:
“In Overt Act two, the state submitted that on April 8, 2017, HH and over 60 other unknown people and being on a convoy of motor vehicles on the Mongu Limulunga Road did obstruct the presidential motorcade, an act that was likely to cause death or grievous harm to the President of the Republic of Zambia, in order to usurp the executive power of the state.”
Clutching at straws!!!
I say to Edgar Chakolwa Lungu that he whom the gods seek to destroy they first make mad. Why arrest a citizen without charges, jail him, and then draft a terrible charge sheet, and then repeatedly ammend the charge sheet for what can stick as a “crime”? It is abuse and misuse of the law, waste of institutional resources, and political fandango at best. There are instances world wide where tables have turned, and the results have not been good. ECL is digging his pit deeper. The mountain of dirt is also accumulating. If I were ECL, I would be very scared.
Shoot in the dark is what explain the poor finishers unfair charge.
The state must start preparing for an ”Unlawfull custody” case from HH.Really laughable.
LUNGU AND YOUR MINION DONT BE STUPID. WHY ARE U WASTING RESOURCES OF THE ZAMBIAN PIPO IN PURSUING HH OVER PETTY THINGS?
The funny thing is HH attended the Kuomboka ceremony from its start in Lealui to its climax in Limulunga. He never declared himself President during all that time. And Lungu never stopped him from doing anything. HH then came back to Lusaka. Only 3 days later did Lungu realise that HH could have declared himself President of Barotseland??? THERE’S NO CURE FOR STOOPIDITY!!! Seriously, the consequences of letting the lowlifes rise to the top of society are dire.
@Buck Teeth …..,
Lol
The crowd received him as though he had declared himself president. 🙂
the are not wasting resources bt they are working hard and make sure that HH is rotten in the CELL/jail
lol BOMANI BOMA,infact ECL new that this case is not going anywhere bt to that stubbon UNDER 5 that boma ni boma
Just wait until Chakwa becomes state witness then you will understand why this is serious. Charges of treason are very serious – police cannot just draft such a serious charge without serious points of argument. Prosecutors are very stupid and must be investigated first.
What is the qualification of these prosecutors. i find most of them to be very dull just like Edgar Lungu. remember how this so called president embarrassed himself when he told the the nation that according to the law he has read ministers were to continue being in office even after parliament was dissolved only for the concourt to over turn the stup1d decsion of this incompetent lawyer who has never won a case but known to have stolen a clients money. Lungu is a Dog.
What an absolute piece of rubbish! This clueless Lungu and his PF thugs have really gone TOO FAR now!
How can someone be arrested BEFORE THEY HAVE EVEN COMMITTED A CRIME?
“the prosecutors have stated that Mr Hichilema wanted to declare himself President of the Republic of Zambia..”
Next these clowns will be beating and locking up people for what they are THINKING ABOUT! How is it possible to know what someone is thinking? So if the police “think” you are going to “think’ about breaking the law they can arrest you?
Are these people INSANE ??????
The PFolice are Lungu’s Thought Police! They must have a huge bank of all negative thoughts that Zambians are hoarding against them. Lungu is truly paranoid and dangerous. Not even the Boors concocted such rubbish against Mandela before throwing him into jail. A black man with power is the most dangerous creature in the world.
Yeah apparently he wanted to declare himself president but he didn’t, so he has committed treason. Oh dear! Simply remarkable.
The IQ level of these people must be -50.
The next charge will be a murder charge because HH wanted to k!’ll President Lungu.
This is what happens when you play chicken and monkey games with people’s lives just to ‘fix’.and show them who is boss. Any judge who entertains this type of nonsense must be a nut case.
I saw the headline today on Al Jazeera English language news about HH. Imagine the embarrassment the entire country has to endure because of stoopidity of few people who hold instruments of power.
You say the treason case is rubbish!?
Regarding HH’s plan to declare himself president in Mongu, only investigators have the duty to prove.
But the straight forward case is the one below:
“In Overt Act two, the state submitted that on April 8, 2017, HH and over 60 other unknown people and being on a convoy of motor vehicles on the Mongu Limulunga Road did obstruct the presidential motorcade, an act that was likely to cause death or grievous harm to the President of the Republic of Zambia, in order to usurp the executive power of the state.”
Lazy and his tins are simply wasting time..so what if you declare yourself President!!
Imaginary charges with no way of proving them whilst wasting our tax payers money.
Wanted to declare himself the President, the state is now thinking for HH? What a shameful drama in Zambia?
Sad episode. Meanwhile LT the picture for this is the same one for last week. Was Mrs HH wearing the same things and postured exactly as last week?
A batch of Dull creatures. Instead of developing the country busy making force arrests
How can Police develop the country? Dull chaps these upnds.
He meant the PForged govt instead of developing Zambia, is concentrating on using the PFolice to terrorise citizens.
HHmust go in JAIL MUKOBEKO MAXIMUM PRISON FROM TODAY so that he is taught a lesson even next week they will a delay for his case so that he go back in prison,he is jailed in secretly,by the way where GBM ATI he has gone to INDIA ATABAA MAMBALA
SHAME ON Lungu and your lawyers!!! I mongu a country? How can someone declare himself president at a traditional ceremony? You were outnumbered sir..Accept that HH is more popular there and move one.. The whole world is laughing at you.
HH, the President of Mongu or President of Kuomboka or President of Barotseland? Desperate, hallucinatory and psychotic, Lungu and his PFolice are losing it. It is tragic!
Why Lunga
Is he on court?
It will be a big mistake to release HH, he must stay abit longer to maintain peace and order in the country. Let the courts keep postponing until next year or so. Am against sentencing him to death but he definitely needs hard canes on his butt.
The peace and order in the country is being destroyed by the STUPlDlTY of Lungu and his PF police! He is so scared of his own shadow and confused by the vodka that he is not able to think straight.
He is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. This would not even have been an issue if he had been sensible. What will investors think of Zambia now? How many of them will want to come to Zambia if people can get arrested and spend months in jail who are not even convicted?
And all Lungus millions of Kwachas flying all over the world to look for “investors” wasted!
Your Party color is red – that explains alot. Respect the president if you want peace to be maintained.
ZAMBIA – Cry My Beloved Country. Can we please divert our energies towards serious issues for once. President ECL better focus on important issues. Dont be worked up by one opposition leader. Mwanawasa initially only got 29% in the first election. He didnt set out to wipe out the opposition. He instead set out to work for the people… In the next election, he was up at 43%. This is what we expect from you Mr. ECL.
Give sensible examples – we all know that Mazoka won the elections. Mwanawasa was just helped to be leader so all those who spoke against him in a way had rights to do so since the voice of people was not followed. In the current case EL won elections and its not a choice to accept that – we the people of Zambia voted and chose EL but HH is trying to use back door methods. For this reason, EL is in order to cane this HH really hard on the butt because we mandated him to protect us through the vote.
Munone, I have never voted PF
Kaluwa, am refering to Zambians not congolese like you. Of course you voted for Kabila but am talking about Zambia. Hope that clears you up.
@Munone – we say you idyots support Chiluba’s Third Term and then vote for Mwanawasa. You never voted for Mazoka. Don’t even put those airs on. Mwanawasa was okay but Mazoka was the really thing. You will be saying the same to your grandchildren that you supported HH when in fact you licked the smelly feet of Lungu.
Iwe Back Teeth Lungu stop being a tribalist. Who told you that only Tongaz can be good presidents? I have never supported HH because he is the worst of all current politicians, very childish with no real vision – actually he is a dictator to the core, no elections within his party since he stole it from real UPND members. I still respect Mazoka and would have fought for him to be released – not this vampire called HH
Don’t be deceived by the name.I’m actually ECL fellow tribes man but I don’t condone mediorce
Very dull PF, it will bite them back in their backsides
Wait and see. Meanwhile he is going back to prison as we analyse here
Do you commend HH’s refusal to give way to presidential motorcade?
Well, regarding HH’s plan to declare himself president in Mongu, only investigators have the duty to prove.
But the straight forward case is the one below:
“In Overt Act two, the state submitted that on April 8, 2017, HH and over 60 other unknown people and being on a convoy of motor vehicles on the Mongu Limulunga Road did obstruct the presidential motorcade, an act that was likely to cause death or grievous harm to the President of the Republic of Zambia, in order to usurp the executive power of the state.”
HH is only in prison because of dictatorship is at the core of governance at the moment.
So in the meantime, he will be inside until 10th May. Nipatali
This IS CONFUSING :”…magistrate Malumani, but clarified that the charge of treason could only be tried in the High Court.I am not familiar with Court procedures but from simple logic, if THE CASE OF TREASON IS FOR THE HIGH COURT WHY DEBATE IT AT A LOWER COURT? WHY NOT SEND IT THERE IMMEDIATELY SO THAT IF HH IS GUILTY HE KNOWS HIS FATE and IF HE IS INNOCENT HE IS LEFT FREE?? As observed, THIS WILL BE QUIT A LONG HAUL FOR HH,by the time the case will leave the Magistrate’s to the High Court, he will have lost a months and in High Court, TREASON CASES are NOT so easily concluded!! One thing is for surely likely to happen even to a layman’s observation:calling the President a “Hyena” is insulting language,refusing space for Presidential motorcade,puts the President’s life in…
Thats the idea, drag ir on for a while to teach him respect.
Justice DELAYED is JUSTICE DENIED! Ever heard that before?
Look Dullah, delayment of justice in this case is working for HH. If we are to speed up the case a s a nation it will be death sentence – think twice about quoting phrases which are not applicable to your case.
This is fishing from the air indeed. The prosecutors don’t even seem to know create a charge sheet. This is what is when you want to fix someone for no reason.
Professor Nkandu Luo and Margarete Mwanakatwe had their sits nullified by the same courts. Did ECL respect the decision of the courts? Kaizer Zulu has had police dockets opened against him. Did ECL allow police do it’s job independently? So, where is the respect for the separation of powers among the three organs of government as stipulated by the republican constitution? ECL is simply a disaster to this nation, he wants all the institutions of governance to surrender to him. Look at the mess going on at the electrol commission of zambia where there is massive resignations from commissioners, directors to spokespersons over the same disputed 2016 general elections. And you are made to believe that ECL means well for this country unless you can not see the rot……………..
Iwe sit down. Do you have facts that EL has intervened in all those examples you gave? Why didn’t you include Kambwiliz case and see if it throws your analysis off balance? HH behaviour after losing 5times is a wonder and soon it will be a Tsunami.
This is an embarassment to the police comand,state house and the country at large…
embarrassing indeed!… This is what the learned public prosecutor can put up? an ill prepared, fishing act to entrap the opposition leader in the charge of Treason. Is there no common sense left in this cadre and those around him?
Tramped up charges…just release the f00l i think…looks like there’s no case. you have punished him enough but i suspect he will come out even more stubborn and venomous lol
You have only yourselves to blame for proving your stoopidity.
Do you commend HH’s refusal to give way to presidential motorcade?
Well, regarding HH’s plan to declare himself president in Mongu, only investigators have the duty to prove.
But the straight forward case is the one below:
“In Overt Act two, the state submitted that on April 8, 2017, HH and over 60 other unknown people and being on a convoy of motor vehicles on the Mongu Limulunga Road did obstruct the presidential motorcade, an act that was likely to cause death or grievous harm to the President of the Republic of Zambia, in order to usurp the executive power of the state.”
Aka fuma na TB chi kala chakwe
Cursed hater
@Lungu nafuti nafuti: kwekwekwekwekwe!!!!!
This is a great relief indeed, thank you very much and God is great. Education pays, not crime because peddling lies is a crime. I knew that my brother HH (muchende, musakwa), the son of the soil in the great land of the Tongas is innocent. Viva HH, HH, HH. You are a living legend and I salute you. I would like to express my sincere and profound gratitude to the experienced hard working criminal attorneys who have argued relentlessly and exposed falsehoods which were inserted in the so-called treason trial that never became. After said, I herein state that I stood shoulder to shoulder with brother HH from the inception of his leadership and, I also add that it is my onus to sustain this maxim to the bitterest end.
@20 Len Joe, This is WHERE YOU MISS IT! HH IS ASPIRING TO BE A NATIONAL LEADER but you REDUCE HIM TO TRIBE AND REGION WHEN CHEERING UP FOR HIM! And that discourages those from other regions that may wish to support him for the top job as they feel alienated. DID YOU EVER HEAR BISAs or BEMBA SPEAKERS CHEERING SATA as ” Bisa or Bemba fimo,fimo..umwana mwaume from Mpika, Chitulika village..etc” or indeed has any one of those who have ruled this country encouraged their tribe mates to over emphasize their tribe and regions as they fight to get the top job? One of the reasons RB emphasized the slogan of “PRESIDENT FOR ALL ZAMBIANS” was to try and PAINT HIS OPPONENTS AS REGIONAL hence NOT TO BE TRUSTED and YOU ARE BUSY CONFIRMING THAT!!
BT he is still in and he has been transfered to mukobeko maximum prison right now
Bwafyaa@20. After said, it is clear that you cannot accommodate anyone who cites any phraseology that encompasses Tonga, because to you and others that share your views and experiences, it is offensive and regionalism. Flowing from the said analysis of Tonga people as put forward by you, it is my view that my emphasis in this regard is designed to indicate that is neither an offence nor an embarrassment to cite ‘Tonga’ in my narratives. In addition, the usage of ‘Tonga’ or Southern Province does not insinuate divisiveness in my terminology. If you do not understand my written work, ask me to clarify. I have no objections to such requests. Thank you.
This should be very embarrassing to pf and now every one knows that it is political intimidation of the opposition…..kikikikikiki…….declaring him self presido kikikikiki pf Lawyers , which law school where they trained ? of course not UNZA…….VERY DULL CHAPS
There qualifications need to be scrutinized. I think these state lawyers have Matero made degrees.
# Free HH #
Prayer for My President .
God of Abraham, God of Isaac i bow before you humbly with a heavy heart. I know you are the same yesterday , today and forever. Grant my president strength and soften his heart to be able to forgive his prosecutors. My God you have never failed i cry to you to hear my prayer protect him from the evil one. No weapon fashioned against him should be successful. May your might hand deal with all his prosecutors for vengeance is yours ooh lord. Protect him and strengthen him. Vindicate him because i know he is innocent .Thank you Father for i know you have heard my prayer. Be with our mother Madam Mutinta Hichilema as she goes through this trying moments with her children. Comfort and be on their side. This i ask through your son Jesus Christ who…
Lets wait and see. Even at magistrate level the cases are still pending it will be the duty of HHs lawyers to prove in court beyond reasonable doubts that he did no cause the public to insult the president. Then on treason cases the high court has the mandet to judge.
BTW use of insulting language was HH being charged with insulting the cops who trashed his home and urinated and defecated on his bed. Not insulting Lungu. It is for the PFolice to prove their case beyond reasonable doubt and not HH to prove his innocence beyond reasonable doubt. I am not sure what records PFolice have about HH’s thoughts, though. That would be interesting to prove.
As a learned and a proud post-doctoral fellow with internationally recognised qualifications at the highest level anywhere on earth, I put it to anyone that lies are a reflection of lies/falsehoods. Very few people successfully transformed lies into supposedly fact. Please, bear in mind that I employed a term called ‘supposedly’. The PF explicitly opted to assimilate lies into their underlying manifesto. Zambians are witnessing the reciprocation of falsehoods which are being engineered by the PF and, such baseless stories have permeated the government departments. However, a few officers of the courts such as; criminal defense attorneys, magistrates and judges have taken cognizance of such politically motivated lies. This is not to contend that all of the aforesaid qualified attorneys…
When i saw the video footage on the social media i asked myself what kind of people HH and his minions where? Now that the case is in court the government is wrong, how? How did you want the state to react to such stupid behavior? If anything, we should give credit to the state security, because, in other countries they could have opened fire on the obs-tractors, but instead of giving them credit you want to condemn THEM, how? bloggers lets be realistic with facts, ECL is president of the republic of Zambia PERIOD!!!!! There can only be one president at a time. HH should come back to his senses and do his home work right for the next elections if and i mean if he has to rule this country.
Sata when he lost in 2006, he just went back to his drawing board and come up with a strategy…
So did HH declare himself President of the Kuomboka? Why should that infuriate Lungu so much? Even Kaunda allowed Chiluba to be become President of ZCTU during the one party state!
He wanted to declare himself the President of the Republic of Lungu. kikikikikikikikikik
Bwafya, giving power to crooks and dulls is really a problem. They can’t just let an innocent person walk free because he gives them headaches every day.
That was the result of 2011 elections. This is the start of a catastrophic implosion of weak minds and dullness. STOOPIDITY HAS NO CURE!
This is rubbish and embarrassing ba Lungu naimwe mulebako serious. The people of Zambia who you claim voted for you are suffering in poverty instead of working to improve their lives you are busy worsting resources. Awe Mr President beniko serious. Who are your advisors kanshi?
Genuine id!ots! So they knew in advance that definitely HH was going to declare himself president? How? Are these people normal? Lungu and his thug party are still in their delinquent stage of youth and very stup!d too. It’s inconceivable they are in charge of 17 millions lives unfortunate enough to still be citizens of that banana republic.
Technically misprision (i.e. hiding) of treason is the same as treason. So, anybody in the Lungu and PFolice camp who knew what HH was telling his chef, gardener and driver, about becoming the President of Kuomboka in Mongu is also culpable of treason. They just need to give evidence against HH for them to be indicted also.
I now believe Lungu has no vision for Zambia. He is only good at persecuting others. The one who God wants to destroy he first makes them go mad.
We voted for him naiwe ka mateo.. if you dint then you voted wrongly ataseee. Are you so blind as to not even see an elephant on the road?Most Zambians voted for ECL tamumfwa…don’t pretend..we decided and that was it.
Just wondering how the amendment adds value to the case. If HH intended to declare himself President, and he did not act on those intentions, how is that a crime?
The Presidential motorcade case is attributed to disrespect and putting the life of the President in danger.
Now, this amendment seems to be mere speculation as there is no other action depicting that additional information in the amendment.
They must have some thought records somewhere. PF are very clever and organised. They have recorded HH’s thoughts that he transmuted to his chef, gardener, driver and bodyguards. That’s how they planned the coup, by Extra Sensory Perception!
Frivolous and vexatious; those are the terms. And it was meant to be just that!
Maybe a purpose is being fulfilled…
What they intend to achieve is lock up HH on these trumped up charges of treason just to keep him in custody. They know that the case will move at snail pace and take forever to conclude. Lungu would have achieved his goal. They know such jokes of charges couldn’t pass any litmus test even with corrupt judges like these Zambia judges. It’s clear even to a layman that these charges are nothing but a clown’s jokes.
we live at the mercy of donors,let him try that
He committed treason by not recognizing Government.
People let us be good to each other regardless of any differences . Easterners are known to be good people ” but not this way ” my heart breeds, ooh God .
Easterners are known to be sly people, per GBM in 2013.
Call a spade a spade.
Call a thief a thief.
Call a rigged election a rigged election.
If you want to call Lucifer “God”, you are just too imbecilic to recognise the truth.
That comment was directed to 34 GBM above
Surely even ignorant person can tell that there is no case. This is purely vindictiveness and abuse of power by EL. Use of power in this manner does not make him legitimate. I have no doubt that unless EL dies he will one day pay for his crimes.
He is equally abusing the Judiciary. EL is a tyranny- a cruel and oppressive person, tended to be insecure, and to try to maintain his power by becoming increasingly oppressive. EL has declared war in civil liberties.
God has given us freedoms. EL has converted people’s rights into privileges. It is an enormous evil for one man to enslave people contrary to their will. Once freedom is lost only human suffering will win it back. Standing up against tyranny is a righteous cause before he causes destruction of unimaginable…
This is all nothing but malicious machinations only meant to punish HH for doing nothing illegal at all, its about settling political scores, nothing more. I mean, the magistrate was right in wondering just how the purported treason charge can exists in a vacuum. Any context on any Overt Act made by HH in order to overthrow the government were completelt missing and after being caught pants down, thery come up with such laughable excuses, what manner of stu.pidity is this?. And the charge that HH wanted to declare himself President of the Republic of Zambia at the Kuomboka is way too far fetched, you need to be so sick in the head to accept such bollocks! One is given to wonder what law Lungu was taught at UNZA!
Yeah so that he learns who is in charge pa ZED
The magistrate wanted the charges to be amended with alleged overt acts, and the state came prepared with amended charges and presented them to the court. That is all what is required from the state. It is now up to the magistrate to refer the case to the High Court where other proceedings will follow, including preliminary applications by the defence and preliminary responses by the prosecution. Then trial starts probably in July. You ask, why has the magistrate not released hh? Answer: once the charge is treason, it is difficult for a court to do so because treason by nature is a matter of serious national security. The only safe option for any magistrate or judge is to let it be tried.
Bark as much as you want Ba UPND…yes this case is going nowhere… The case MUST take long up to 2022…we all know that…OBJECTIVE: Keep HALEYA HALENYA mu Mukobeko…that is the intention…Keep the ILLUSIONIST caged!
Once this case is disposed off UPNDonkeys will see what constitutes treason, it is not taken lightly by any court no matter whats the magistrates inclination, they all know that treason is the highest charge possible and cannot be taken lightly.
I feel pity for Mutinta whom the UPNDonkeys want to mislead without any feeling for her husbands incaceration. For them donkeys its all politics as usual, personal feelings are left to hh, Mutinta and the family. Them donkeys are fully entertained by the court proceedings as you can see in their posts above especially NEZ the Mushota copy and paste.
Don’t forget that HH openly said that he was the president on the radio in Mongu unless if he did not say that, all the same by the time he comes out he have learnt a lesson never to undermine the head of state.
There’s no lesson to be learnt here other than how sly, vexatious and vexatious Lungu is.
This is like how Christ defined the act of adultery or fornication, by mere intent you are guilty as judged! Anyway, this is not the ancient Babylonia of Jerusalem of Nazareth we are living in. Treason does not happen in a vacuum, it does so in a context and that context being the tools meant to be used to remove Lungu from power! Not that this would have been a bad thing, but trying to tie treason to a traffic violation and them bringing up silly monkey excuses of him intending to declare himself president is mow stupidous indeed. Besides, Barotseland is a foreign country, so how does one declare himself president of one country in another country. Well, unless you’re President-elect Adama Barrow of Gambia who was installed in Senegal.
TREASON COMMITTED BY A TONGA, WITH FELLOW TONGAS AND ON BEHALF OF ALL TONGAS. WHERE WERE GBV’S FOLLOWERS FROM KASAMA BECAUSE ALL THE NAMES APPEARING ON THE INDICTMENT ARE FROM DUNDUMWEFIPUBA MWE.
Foreigner
The amended charges are meant to punish HH further. It’s pure vengeance. HH is being punished for being more popular in Mongu than Lungu and for aspiring to be President of Zambia. Lungu has disgraced all the Zambians the World of over. Its a Circus and mockery of our Constitutional Democracy. We are ashamed to be Zambians with such a Bungling President. Which foreign investor can come to a country led by such a visionless President. No Aid Donors or Lenders will associate with a country led by such a mediocre President?Shame on Lungu and his poor Advisers.
Moya, we should not be proud of donors or co operating partners. A should be able to stand on it’s on. It’s like them paying us for following what they want. Zambia as country should just be doing the right things as a nation. Government and the opposition should simply be the mirror of the nation by behaving well. A nation should be run like a home, never to ask your neighbour to buy your family meliemeal, its a shame. Not long ago children from the western world shunned school feeding schemes, they said that it may imply that they are poor etc. So let us not be proud of donors etc.
Can anyone claim that Zambia is a Christian nation? Why change the charge many times. So DPP has not given any instructions?
One thing I can give to Mutinta though, what a loving wife. You can see the hurt in her face. I wonder how many wives would be like that?
But to the UPNDonkeys, what Mutinta considers a husband is just collateral damage.
You will be lucky to have a wife yourself. While you are blogging nonsense here, your wife (if any) is walking the redlight district instead.
This is the reason why we should let courts do their work and not call them names.
The burden now lies with the prosecution to prove their allegations against HH and those accused with him.
Hopefully by the next court hearing HH and Co will be free from the charge of treason and can go home on bail.
Meanwhile hh grants sick leave to GBM in order to keep his filthy hands off the presidency of the party.
Actually I agree with the charges and the overt acts. You will find that it is not very difficult to prove such treason charges because underfive became complacent when he saw that the authorities were treating him with kid gloves. What is dufficult is to defend the accused.
Today the defence lawyers are unusually quite. Are they going to tell us their response later tonight?
Donkeys stop cerebrating you don’t know what is in the prosecutors sleeves, the charge is still treason which can only be trialed in the High Court. Is it not what the magistrate said?
Sorry, this is NO reply to something, but I do not know how to start a new topic.
My question concerns the voting with regard to various opinions expressed here:
Since many MONTHS, if not longer, clicking to give a yes or a no vote often is a joke: Sometimes, the number grows by up to three; sometimes both, plus and minus, go up.
So, what’s the point of voting??? – This is manipulation of public opinion.
No, there is nothing wrong with my PC, and not much with my typing skills.
That’s a backlog on the voting. Because while you are reading or writing someone is voting so when you vote their vote shows as well.
@Ivo
You are IT bankrupt!
There is no manipulation of public opinion. Even my laptop & PC behave the same. But being IT conversant I understand the reason behind it.
Most likely its due to time lapse from the time you open the page to the time you click on VOTE. You cud have spent time reading several comments b4 u decide on which comment to VOTE. So assume u opened the webpage 10 minutes ago the site presents u with updated votes from other viewers. So in that 10 minutes on the same comment ur voting others world wide wud have voted +VEs & -VEs.
Do u get it, buddy!
So you see!
I didn’t know @Spaka like lilo has already intelligently answered you because I spent time reading above comments before I read yours and took longer to type my response cos its a bit longer.
So by the time I clicked ‘Post Comment’ @Spaka like lilo had already posted his reply. In your opinion cud this also be manipulation of public opinion cos I never saw @Spaka like lilo’s concise reply?
@Ivo
Alternatively you can type your comment in MS Word, highlight the comment and copy and Click ‘Refresh’ on the webpage before pasting your comment and posting it.
That way the vote statistics may not vary drastically.
So utilize the “Refresh’ button to keep updated real-time votes before posting your inept comments.
Stop exposing your ignorance consult the person next to you.
After the dust settles, the best result in all this is that even if the charges don’t stand, everything will work well for HH and UPND. How? This is what they planned and wanted.
They have learnt how not to dare the law. HH must be enjoying all this. Even long before the 2016 elections he declared publicly and repeatedly that he will not accept the results if he doesn’t win! And true to his word, he refused to accept the results even before counting was completed!
So it looks like he is now suffering. No! He is happy that he is now being noticed and trying attract sympathy!
He his enjoying every bit of this, especially his stay in the 7-Star Execlusive Chimbokaila Hotel because he his, I believe, wise enough…
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He his enjoying every bit of this, especially his stay in the 7-Star Execlusive Chimbokaila Hotel because he his, I believe, wise enough to understand the consequences of pushing the law too far, even going to the extent of calling the President as Clueless Hyena! Insulting everyone who doesn’t side with him especially the millions who did not vote for him, etc. What an aspriring president! I admire his unique wisdom!
However, his plan is a total flop as there are no mass uprisings he thought would come after his arrest. This is because all proper reasoning people have stayed away from wanton law breaking. The handful that are agitating for violence are all cowards, especially those loud moths on this…
If this is they way cases are being handled in Zambia without evidence then 90% of Zambian are quilt.
God help our judges to have foresight
You are right. There are some Zambians who spend their days thinking how great Zambia would be if Lungu was dead and thrown in the dust bin. Over 90% of Zambians are guilt of treason against Lungu!
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However, his plan is a total flop as there are no mass uprisings he thought would come after his arrest. This is because all proper reasoning people have stayed away from wanton law breaking. The handful that are agitating for violence are all cowards, especially those loud moths on this forum.
Prove it NEZ et al if you are not cowards! Go and protest!
Long live Zambia. Abash law breakers!
There is no case here….. Treason charges cannot be sustained in this case . I bet my word the overt acts in new charge leaves much to be desired… The law of evidence defines an overt act in treason as an outward act that is done in furtherance of a conspiracy, of treason, or of the crime of attempt and that is usually a required element of such crimes for conviction even if it is legal in itself.
This is the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt. History in treasonable cases in Zambia had been attributed to an organized group actively carrying illegal activities inimical to security or authority of the state and such acts which may culminate replacing the existing state as was in Shamwana case.
Since the charge have been narrowed to the incident in Mongu, the overt act in…
Most great leaders were once jailed for their beliefs.
HH should be ready to sacrifice his freedom even his life for the Zambian democracy he so much cherishes.
All zambians aganist tyranny, corruption and thuggery can see the wrong in PF.
We salute and stand by you UPND.
Yeah, even Abiola went to jail – in similar circumstances. Find out what happened.
The Imprisonment of Obadala.
Good prosecutor may simply agree to drop the charges . Take my word when the case goes ahead , the state may fail to advance much further and discontinue the case under the nolle….
Further, the DPP’s reluctance to take stand now is indicative that the case is beyond her comprehension in the field of law….
Treason charge cannot arise from traffic offence unless there is actively conspiracy beforehand by a group of people.
The law must be seen to be done and not use a nolle for inefficiency
Probably the traffic charges may stand…..
@35.2 Dullah,
You wrote “…Call a spade a spade a rigged election a rigged election…”
You forgot to add ” Call an allegation an allegation”. No one has shown any proof of any rigged election, not even the god who call others Clueless Hyena!
How cruel to hate someone like this. It is satanic. Repent and ask for forgiveness from God
I REALLY WANDER WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENNED TO HH IF HE HAD BLOCKED KK’s MOTORCADE IN THE UNIP ERA? SINCERELY SPEAKING, THIS MAN SHOULD SWALLOW HIS PRIDE AND THANK THE PRESIDENT AND SIMPLY SAY, ”I AM SORRY” TO THE PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA WHO VOTED FOR PRESIDENT LUNGU. HE WOULD HAVE GONE AND PEACE WOULD STILL HAVE CONTINUED IN ZAMBIA.
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You are dreaming! Did you see the video? Lungu was never blocked. He was able to overtake without incidence. Anyway, Kaunda and Unip were rejected because of their dictatorship.
Even blocking ka Chiluba baba – consequences would have been dastardly. Easterners have been very soft Presidents and that is why they are being taken advantage of. HH said “RB would be chased like a dog”, he said “ECL is “a clueless hyena”. Eastern Chiefs have not interjected. They have stayed away from politics. Compare that with those who are chasing other tribes from “their” regions.
And where is the Chief Justice in all this?
Where do you want her to be?
@spaka lillo
You wrote: “All zambians aganist tyranny, corruption and thuggery can see the wrong in PF.”
I agree partially but when I read your post I see the word thuggery. Now I ask you a question:
Don’t you see any thuggery in HH,s actions? blocking the presidential motorcade, or using insulting language, like calling our president Clueless Hyena?, refusing to open his doors when the police knocked at his door, Insulting court judges or anyone who does not agree with him, insulting the intelligence of us who voted for ELC?”
And tomorrow he wants me too vote for him! He is a joker! I cant watse my vote on such a clown who thinks he is the only intelligent person in the whole of Zambia!
@59 Spaka, your opening sentence hits the nail on the head “.. most great leaders….”. Unfortunately hh is not a great leader. An example of a great leader is Mandela, he fought for his country’s freedom. In contrast hh fights for his personal aggrandizement or for that of his tribe, and not for the 6.5 provinces who rejected him.
2. What? Hh should be ready to sacrifice his life for personal greatness? For the sacrifice bit I suggest that you Spaka consult Mutinta. She has made it public knowledge that she does not want her husband to die, you heard when she said that “….they wanted to kill my husband…”. To you does that sound like a wife who wants her husband to die for you or any other UPNDonkey? Fimo fintu mule tontonkanya ba Donkey Spaka, or consult Mutinta and her beloved…
Mr terrible Bachembele….
That Kaizer zulu politics and morals you want the more half the voting population who voted for HH to accept are roundly rejected.
We stand by HH in rejecting the fraud convict lungu. You can jail all UPND but you will never break their conviction in a fair law abbidding zambia free of corruption and tyranny……
Cont…. Fimo fintu mule tontonkanya ba Donkey Spaka, or consult Mutinta and her beloved family. When hh is locked away, the one who decides what happens to hh is his loving wife; not you kapalala donkey cadre.
Ati his wife decides what happens…..did she decide for him to not recognise the fraud convict lungu ?
This drunk bally Mr terrible and his gibberish.. ….
The truth is the treason charge will never stand the test of time.HH does not even need a lawyer to win this one. This is why many are of the opinion that there is abuse of power by the state in this instance. That is not to say HH has not been causing unnecessary mischief and creating unwarranted anxiety in the nation. Conclusion: HH SHOULD STOP TOYING WITH THE PEACE OF THIS NATION AND PF SHOULD NOT BE VINDICTIVE BY BRINGING A FLAMED UP TREASON CHARGE JUST TO ENSURE HH IS LOCKED UP DURING TRIAL BECAUSE TREASON IS NOT BAILABLE.
YOU ARE CORRECT MAUDEN.THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE UPND LEADER LACKS PROPER ADVISORS.
REMEMBER WHAT WINTER KABIMBA SAID IN ONE OF THE DAILY PAPERS.
THERE IS A BETTER WAY OF DOING POLITICS THAT WHAT THIS UPND GUYS DO.HONESTLY SPEAKING,HOW CAN A NORMAL PERSON BEHAVES LIKE THAT IN MONGU?WINTER SAID HIMSELF AND SATA IF THEY WERE IN OPPOSITION COULD NOT DO THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS RECKLESS.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HH IS A LESSON TO ALL UPND MEMBERS.THERE IS A GOVT IN PLACE WHETHER UPND LIKES OR NOT.I DON’T KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE EVEN MENTIONING LUNGU IN THIS CASE.
LET US ALL BE FAIR TO ONE ANOTHER.HH HAS BEEN A PROBLEM SINCE LOOSING ELECTIONS.
WE CAN UPON ELDERLY PEOPLE TO COUNSEL THIS MAN BECAUSE NEXT TIME HE MAY BE IN WORSE SITUATION THAN THIS.
TOO BAD FOR THE FAMILY AND THEY SHOULD ENCOURAGED.
Signing off for today
Good riddance, idyot.
By the way, this is the time to help HH sort this problem out and not to make it worse. As time goes on we including you shall all forget about him. I mean if he is behind bars and UPNDis all about hhh, who will finance and fight his battle? Turning to GBM he has taken a sabbatical leave, so who will fight for him? Spaka or Gary? I assure you that at this rate, hh will be a forgotten soul rotting in jail, all these Amnesty’s will latch on to fresh things,, and there are plenty coming up all tge time, like that American Kim arrested in North Korea without charge, a fitting case for Amnesty than hh who is sleeping and eating well and appearing in court only to be delayed by preliminaries. Donkeys please wake up twapapata.
That’s what the Boors hoped by locking away Mandela for 27 years. Unfortunately for them while nobody knew Mandela in 1962, by 1986 the World was dancing to “FREE NELSON MANDELA” on the streets of London. Now the whole world know about HH, the victim, and Lungu, the tinhat dictator.
…tinpot dictator.
HH can never be forgotten.
He can only emerge stronger from this.
You can jail the whole UPND but that will not provide jobs or provide any respite for the over taxed suffering zambians.
When all you know is borrowing and stealing jailing your perceived enemies won’t fix your problems.
You see bally Mr terrible…..the UPND and HH know the cost of democracy against a budding dictator like lungu is high.
I heard him saying people are spreading false hoods that I am killing democratic governance in Zambia, I immediately realised that he is not aware of what he is doing. And we just need to forgive him. Maybe it is the Kampyongos misleading him.
Seriously? Somebody who intentionally surrounds himself with pfoolish advisors has nobody else to blame. It is not as if Muliokela or somebody else appointed those advisors and ministers. Lungu is personally responsible for the actions and utterances of his ministers and advisors. They are his minions and worshipers.
Seriously? Somebody who intentionally surrounds himself with pfooolish advisors has nobody else to blame. It is not as if Muliokela or somebody else appointed those advisors and ministers. Lungu is personally responsible for the actions and utterances of his ministers and advisors. They are his minions and worshipers.
Zambia is not a Christian Country anymore, We are now a mediocre country of vengeance, vindictiveness and political oppression.
No more National prayers, just a waste of your time.
Just do your usual thing, eat drink and fornicate.
@69 MAUDEN SHULA:
before I go
VERY FAIR COMMENTS. I wish we were all like you!
Lets stop the hatred people
Why get your emotions fired up over individuals who don’t even know you.
Because we are humans, we do this all the time. Empathy is at the core of all humanity. Even Trump with his America First was scandalised enough to bomb Syria when Assad gassed kids and women. If you cannot empathise with a fellow human being who is being tortured and victimised, you are no better than a pig.
The treason case is here to stay for HH and others. HH is on record of NOT recognizing the duly elected President on many occasions for example
1. Instructing his tribesmen MPs to leave the Parliament when the President was opening it
2. Clear and present danger as watched by the world were HH motorcade completely and arrogantly obstructed the Presidential Motorcade of President Lungu despite being commanded to so, its all recorded.
3. Treason is NOT only when you try to capture the sitting President and declare oneself a “president” but also when evidently, deliberately and clear without doubt, you intentionally try and put the life of the President in danger so that it gives you due advantage. So bane ba UPND mukose, HH is in deep trouble, its TREASON period!
I think we now live in a dangerously polarised country where tribal bigotry has literally eaten away the fabric of the spirit of brethrens in one nation! It’s very clear here that literally 90% of all those who are gloating over HH’s tribulations are mostly Esterners, Luapulans and Northerners. Let’s not cheat ourselves, it’s not only Lozis who want nothing more to do with this country, Tongas and North-Westerns are also fed up. This country is without doubt headed for a split right along the line of rail. I would give it only 10 years and we will surely be two separate countries. And knowing our brethrens from the part of Zambia located in Central Africa, it won’t be long before they become a failed state and like their brothers in Rwanda and Katanga become enmbroilled in civil war.
@Regarding HH’s plan to declare himself president in Mongu, only investigators have the duty to prove.
But the straight forward case is the one below:
“In Overt Act two, the state submitted that on April 8, 2017, HH and over 60 other unknown people and being on a convoy of motor vehicles on the Mongu Limulunga Road did obstruct the presidential motorcade, an act that was likely to cause death or grievous harm to the President of the Republic of Zambia, in order to usurp the executive power of the state.”
Unfortunately for you, Anus Chanda declared in a press statement on Monday 11 April that they discussed the options, and with the agreement of Lungu, concluded that there was no risk to the President on the road to Limulunga. That is how the Presidential motorcade was led to overtake HH’s convoy. Lungu knew that there was no risk to his person. And it was clearly shown by how he even had his window to his vehicle open as he sped past.
That could well mean that even though there was a plan to harm the head of state, the security staff were adequately Equipped to manage it.
And that is what they did. Thus Amos Chanda stating that they discussed and there was no eminent danger to harm the president.
So if I adequately lick and tightly secure my premises, I can safely say there is no threat. That does not mean these are not planing to steal but that I have put adequate measures to avoid their success.
So, even if they can’t break if they came, if thieves were found trying to tamper with the doors police will arrest them for attempting to break into the house.
This is what we expect from a Kunyu patient it is not surprising. Remember Triangle Banda wrote last year.
When he will be released he will be a national hero, celebrations everywhere. PF don’t know what they are doing, people take hh to be suffering for them watch this space…
It’s not about tribe it’s about the party’s popularity. Matthews Jere won Livingstone because he stood on upnd which is popular there. Wilbur Simuusa won Nchanga by standing on pf which is popular in that part of our land. So it’s not about the tribe but the popularity of the party in a party in a particular area.
Seriously, this is it? This is shocking and very troubling to the future credibility of the justice system of our Country. The extent of the VACUUM IN SUBSTANCE in this so-called Treason case is shocking, to say the least. If anyone well-meaning person ever wanted proof that mother Zambia is now under full-time dictatorship, these illegal baseless treason detentions currently in force are proof enough.
Reasonable and right thinking human beings know that this whole sorry masquerade of spiteful proportions amounts to primal vengeance. Hence of course, the ‘groping in the dark’ for so-called treason charges. The biggest tragedy, though, is the despicable failure of many Zambians including some on this blog to stand up to reason and challenge what is clearly wrong. Failure to demand justice and condemn atrocities on the back of blind allegiances or sheer unparalleled ignorance has reached shocking proportions. Yet, the same people singing praises unashamedly to this regime’s actions will be the first to gnash their teeth in anguish when the consequences of a failed state finally begin to bite their exposed butts. I shudder at some of the comments on this forum.
I am tired of talking to UPNDonkeys, please inform me IF underfive survives this one…..let me latch on to more rewarding projects……kikikikikiki
Where can you go bally, the rurobonds have finished and IMF are not releasing funds for you to steal……
After going through most of the junk comments, especially from hachintu aka terrible, i have realized that teachers in schools and preachers in churches need to up their teaching game, we still got a lot of lost souls.
THE BOY ON A MISSION! The size of the conv, the Rowdy convoy and the sudden disappearance of GBM tell it all.
PF lawyers in govt are very dull…anyway soon HH will claim huge compensation for wrongful detention
U clearly understand z need to put into leadership sane credible pipo. Some pipo appear not only to be useless but cud be diseased. Sicknesses like epilpse, hiv, syphillis attack the brain that u wud not know why a leader is making blunders all z time amidst all advice to make better, considered decisions. Ladies and gentlemen i submit that what we seeing is much deeper than just abuse of power. Z sanity of someone needs proper cross-examination by our able citizens!
Lungu, what a mess. What are you really doing to mother Zambia? What a waste of space you are!
“In Overt Act two, the state submitted that on April 8, 2017, HH and over 60 other unknown people and being on a convoy of motor vehicles on the Mongu Limulunga Road did obstruct the presidential motorcade, an act that was likely to cause death or grievous harm to the President of the Republic of Zambia, in order to usurp the executive power of the state.”
@Advice,
LOL… Usurp power? Sounds like the beginning of a very funny joke.
Advice, instead of just doing copy-and-paste, make an effort to read and understand. Then watch the youtube video clips again. Notice both vehicle convoys are doing relatively low speeds because that stretch of road is evidently in a residential area, and the 4×4 vehicle, supposedly carrying Lungu, has its window down.
If you watch the video clips and still come to the same conclusion as these dull State prosecutors, then your IQ must also be in single digits, my friend. Unless of course you do not know that you do not understand the meaning of ‘usurp’ in this context. Then you, my friend, are arguing from raw ignorance, though that is no defence in courts of law.
Today I just dismissed from my company an employee by the name of Rex Lungu.
Reason: no reason at all really, except that I have now become a diehard tribalist.
I want him to feel what tribal injustice means.
Let us see if his tribesmen or tribal cousins will give him a job. An eye for an eye.
Zambian forget easily. Just after the Mongu incidence, IG and State House vuvuzela issued statements. Do recall what they said????
That the Police acted professionally and HE’s life was not endangered in any way. Now the same PFolice are contradicting themselves in a chipantepanta style. 1diots!!! If I had my way I’d henceforth refuse refuse to pay tax because this is pure wasted of my hard earned money to satisfy stup1d egos!
Well, chipantepante style 1diots have hh squatting in a one metre square space and sh.i.tting in a stinky latrine!! Whose in charge, punk??? BETTER RECOGNISE!!!
Aaaa…. Compulsive liars from nkani yapa gravel road ati wanted to declare himself president. Ati Christian Nation”””” Hahah hahaha…. Dog”””””st..
The tongas have really come out exposing themselves, one of those unguarded moments. That is really the problem with them, trying unsuccessfully to hide the truth about their real intentions which intentions everybody knows from the time HH was “elected” as successor to Andy Mazoka. So now we know why the choice of GBM as running mate, Canissius as vice president, Nalumango as chairperson of UPND, and others. It is now clear what drives HH to such lengths of risking his own life. The desperation to deliver to his fellow tongas a first tonga president of Zambia. Unfortunately the Zambian constitution desires a majority president which HH will never be with the exposes above. To remove any remote possibility of that happening, i am submitting that the constitution be changed to require…
To remove any remote possibility of that happening, i am submitting that the constitution be changed to require that a winning candidate must gain majority support from eastern, luapula, muchinga and northern provinces. Maybe that will help the cause of one zambia one nation.
@Advice,
LOL… Usurp power? Sounds like the beginning of a very funny joke.
Advice, instead of just doing copy-and-paste, make an effort to read and understand. Then watch the youtube video clips again. Notice both vehicle convoys are doing relatively low speeds because that stretch of road is evidently in a residential area, and the 4×4 vehicle, supposedly carrying Lungu, has its window down.
If you watch the video clips and still come to the same conclusion as these dull State prosecutors, then your IQ must also be in single digits, my friend. Unless of course you do not know that you do not understand the meaning of ‘usurp’ in this context. Then you, my friend, are arguing from raw ignorance, though that is no defence in courts of law.
It is very embarrassing to accuse those who know of lacking knowledge when you are the one who is ignorant.
When you think you know when you don’t, people like Mushipe will dupe.
They will use preliminaries to crate business opportunities and reap sufficiently out of you.
Odi kuno! It doeas not matter the verbatim, all I see is HH languishing in prison. HH and UPND, you call ECL names and a weakling, but I see HH in prison and dancing to Lungu’s tune. It means HH is receiving great punches from Lungu.
I do not know how many times Lungu needs to beat HH for them to understand! A so-called noboady beating a so-called powerful person. It is shameful, just throw in the towel, you will never beat this Lungu, he is simply too good for your guys. All you are good at doing is insults!!!! Keep on insulting and ECL will continue ruling!!!!!!!!
Very law caliber bro! law thinking PF sortof….Wil see wen the term is over , Rule of Law will play .
You’ll see @Asigai, you hungry cadres will be singing for somebody else very soon, just as you were singing for Mwanawasa against Sata, Rupiah Banda against Sata, then Sata Sata, now Lungu against HH – in future you will be begging somebody else for a job. Try developing the country instead
Its NOT difficult to know a DULL person . He is usually a bully .
Contd from 95….sorry I meant to say a Presidential candidate must win majority votes in each of the five provinces namely of luapula, northern, muchinga, eastern, copperbelt and lusaka……
The RULE of LAW will be reinforced when this GOVERNMENT is gone . Who ever broke the law will face the right charge ” like failing to vacate office when petition was filed ”
So you will reinforce the rule of law by refusing to give way to presidential motorcade?
PF are now fishing for a reason for treason charge when there is
PF are now fishing for a reason for treason charge when there is none
These fake charges are making state prosecutors appear to be incompetent and stupid. Its like some people are praying for some form of coup to occur in order to implicate opponents or those with dissenting views. The failed Turkish coup is an excellent example of an attempt to usurp power. Note the kind of comedy we are seeing in Zambia’s courts today.
They are hoping for a distraction from state incompetence
Actually, they are stupid by tolerating it!
He was to be “accorded status” BY WHOM??? In WHAT CAPACITY was he to be “awarded status”? It’s a sick comedy
I’m a Tonga and a medical doctor. If you’re my patient and you have a name from you know where, watch me during surgery; don’t sleep….
This is useless
This is ridiculous ! SHAME ON YOU! YOU ARE A BUNCH OF WORTHLESS CROOKS THAT HAVE BEEN PAID OF BY THE RULING PARTY ! THIS IS INDEED A SAD DAY FOR DEMOCRACY IN ZAMBIA AND WE MUST ALL BE VERY ALERT AND WATCHFUL. I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING IN OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY !
AS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ARRESTED – I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE FOUND WITH THE ITEMS STATED – I DO NOT TRUST THE POLICE AS I AM SURE THEY PLANTED THE ITEMS IN THE ARRESTED CITIZENS VEHICLES. CRY OH CRY OUR BELOVED COUNTRY – DEMOCRACY AS WE KNOW IT HAS ENDED.
The more than 214 comments posted on this story, is not only a record for LT in a long while, but it also depicts the overwhelming growing numbers of the silent majority that know when a big person is lying. The so called Boma ni Boma is sadly lying about these treason story, and without shame, exposing their leaders’ hatred for HH, the party and in particular the two main tribes he enjoys support from, Tonga and Lozi. There are many of us, non-Tonga/non-Lozi, who support the ideals that UPND espouses and we look forward to the dawning of new economic and moral leadership soon – rather than later. LT, please keep us posted on this morning’s ruling at 9 am. Thanks
The UPND are crying for the rule if law.
If ever they came into power they would reinforce the rule of law by:
1) Encouraging people not to recognise nor respect authority.
2) Encouraging people to refuse to give way to presidential motorcade.
3) Encouraging people to involve themselves in terrorist acts such as burning of markets, courts, govt building etc.
And apparently there are NGOs who are supporting and endorsing this behaviour.
ITS A SHAME,
LISTEN TO WHAT AMOS CHANDA SAID ON BBC FOCUS FOR AFRICA.
Mr Chanda told the BBC’s Focus on Africa programme that it would be against the law for President Lungu to interfere in an ongoing trial.
He added that it was the police who had interpreted the traffic incident as a treasonable offence.
That’s why the country is so poor because the government is so weak. Do we have leaders who can reason with five senses? It’s embracing to hear such stories.
At the end of the day who going to pay legal fees? It’s the Zambian people, you will actually make HH richer because you have dull leaders.
When somethibg more exciting happens, hh will become boring and we will pack him among the old files to help gather the dust.
Wake up fellow Zambians lungu wants to eliminate hh. That’s why they have continued keeping him in prison. Lungu must go. I repeat lungu must go. Zambia now is like Zimbabwe.
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Thanks for the explanations some of you gave re my query yesterday!
Since being ignorant is not the same as being stupid, I have no problem with just asking.
By the way, discussion on these pages could be so much shorter and more to the point, if people would stop bombarding each other with insults.