Lusaka Lawyer Kelvin Bwalya Fube has moved a motion of no confidence in the current Law Association of Zambia Council led by Linda Kasonde.
And Mr Fube has accused the current association of attempting to rig the outcome of the Extraordinary General Meeting by setting the start time at 08:00 Hours.
The motion to impeach the LAZ Council will be tabled at the Association’s Extraordinary General Meeting on Saturday at the Radisson Blu Hotel.
Mr Fube who is also a prominent member of the ruling PF said the current LAZ Council should be removed because it has allegedly failed to run the association.
Speaking when he featured on Thursday’s edition of the Hot Seat radio programme on Hot FM, Mr Fube accused the Council of mal administration and eroding the people’s confidence in LAZ because of their immaturity in the running of association.
He said the current LAZ has failed to remain neutral on key national issues and has adopted a dangerous path in running the association.
“We as LAZ are advisers and thus LAZ must be neutral. At this stage, Government doesn’t want to have anything to do with LAZ and we are useless without Government. The Association must have a cordial relationship with the Government, off course that does not mean that we should be bootlickers,” he said.
Mr Fube cited a number of issues which he said the Council showed a lot of bias in handling such as the election petition case and the referendum vote.
“Last year during the petition, the Constitutional Court threw out the case because the 14 days period had run out. The LAZ Council was quick to issue a statement that the UPND must have been heard and by doing that, they were basically issuing a challenge to the Judiciary,” he said.
He added, “On the issue of the referendum, without consulting the members, LAZ took a stand that we should vote No. Looking at the divisive nature of the referendum debate, I think we should have maintained neutrality as LAZ.”
“Our history as LAZ is that when a question of a legal nature arises that divides the nation, LAZ calls for an EGM. That has been our history. So that the Executive gets its mandate before it speaks but this Council never consulted its membership before making some of the wrong decisions it has made,” he said.
“How do you explain the streaming Live of the UPND press conference via the LAZ Facebook page, who does that? I am a member of LAZ and I don’t accept that and don’t tell me because I am politician then I shouldn’t speak. We should maintain our neutrality as an association.”
He continued, “HH outside court, he calls the Judges Judas Iscariots and he says these are people not worth the gowns and wigs they wear and we keep quiet, every Judge is a Lawyer by training and if they are going to be insulted and we keep quiet, we say that is wrong. Take the case of the Post Newspaper, they were found liable by the Supreme Court, the Council took a certain position without consulting their members and they said they were fighting for constitutional rights for Fred M’membe. What constitutional rights and you have been found guilty? You can never benefit from an illegality and if some people were sleeping when they were teaching that principle of law, then I am sorry.”
Mr Fube added, “The President of LAZ swore an affidavit attempting to join the Association to the Post Newspapers proceedings alleging that the Judge Sunday Nkonde was biased and compromised, with no evidence, who speaks like that? Who are you representing? Again insulting the Judiciary.
And Mr Fube has warned that if the association fails to move the motion to remove Ms Kasonde’s executive, politicians will proceed with tabling the Law Societies Bill which will dismantle LAZ.
“When we saw the Societies Bill to dismantle the Association, we said we can’t dismantle LAZ, we said we need to remain united. The politicians will move and dismantle LAZ if we don’t fix this house ourselves. So we went an engaged the politicians and they are keenly watching what is happening.”
Mr Fube said the Linda Kasonde LAZ Council is not indispensable.
“We have men and women to lead LAZ. If we don’t remove Linda, the politicians are saying they will dismantle LAZ into fragments.
Mr Fube has since ruled himself out of contention for a position if the motion of no confidence passes.
“Personally I have had no interest in running for a position in LAZ and I am not wanting to hold one. There is no A Team or B Team.”
He also alleged that the executive is failing to run the association because of lack of maturity.
“The respect of the association is being eroded because of mal administration and immaturity in the running of things. When this issue of the vote of no confidence started, the executive decided to call for what they called Town Hall meetings, at the Lusaka meeting, I raised a preliminary issue and t told them that I have been in the association for 30 years and I have heard of a LAZ Town Hall meetings, as Lawyers we go for EGMs if there is a pressing issue and I walked out of that meeting because I didn’t want to be part of an illegality,” he said.
“They take the same meeting to Ndola, they use our money to have social gathering and resolve nothing? They fly to Ndola, the entire Council flies to Ndola and holds another meeting at the Protea Hotel, to do what?”
He said the problem with the current executive is that they are excited and think they know it all.
“This is the problem when you give leadership to young and excited people who think they know it all.”
Meanwhile, Mr Fube has accused the current association of attempting to rig the outcome of the Extraordinary General Meeting by setting the start time at 08 Hours.
“These are the tricks of the trade. Linda and her team are fighting for their lives, coming up with tricks to ensure that the motion flops.”
He said, “the rules say If at all the movers of the motion are not seated with at least 50 members within five minutes of the meeting being called to order, the motion fails.
So the question is why put a meeting to start at 08:00 Hours? There is a marathon going on in the city on Saturday and roads will be closed. There are some of our members travelling from everywhere, how are they going to get to Lusaka by 08 Hours? Why don’t you move to the meeting to start at 10 or 11 Hours?”
He added, “What are they rushing for? They are scared, they can hear the drums, they can hear the footsteps, let them defeat the motion, I would have said to you then we become fragmented, I told you. Now they are not allowing voting by proxies, Linda herself won her presidency through proxies but why block proxies this time around?”
TREASON, IMPEACHMENT….EXCITING TIMES IN ZAMBIA’S JUDICIAL FORAYS
Kelvin was wronged and treated abysmally
Linda is non partisan and like I said before is not fit for purpose.
As much as I think this is headed no where.
I so wish she can resign and just go away because this job was always too big for her.
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History will absolve Linda Kasonde and her executive.
Awalya Awalya! Who doesnt know that you are just a crooked lawyer with crooked motives.
When you are drivin you dont see the color of your car.
Its someone outside that see it.
From outside we can tell who is overzealous here
Viva Linda. Viva Laz
@Mushota Kelvin is a thief! PLAIN AND SIMPLE! That’s why I took him to the police and had him locked up! Again plain and simple! Next as “your majesty” says!
@Laughing Matter, did you say crooked?? Its far more than that, Fube, and the entire PF are a batch of mafias who have turned Zambia into a banana republic!
Fube is right, he has interpreted this one correctly. His argument is based on facts. Kasonde has destroyed LAZ single handedly. Women have been destroyers of well built structures from way before. Look at Samson, David, Solomon in Bible.
Very immature Linda indeed. Her immaturity has rubbed on the rest of the association. The kids are drunk with power. In bemba we say that “inama yabaiche tainona”. Umwaiche naonaula ifintu
Fube is right.
M’membe and Mtembo Nchito are controlling Linda, and a few if her colleagues in the LAZ executive are compromised.
It is very clear from the behaviour of LAZ in the past.
Last year during the presidential petition they wanted to join the case in the name of friends of the court.
But how does LAZ join the case as Judges, are they?
So the court refused to grant, because there is no such privilege as “friends of the court” in LAZ Act.
Did they think the judges on their own were incapable of handling the matter? Did judges ask for LAZ assistance?
Then afterwards they condemn the judges for ending at 14 days when the judges followed the constitution.
So LAZ wanted to flout the Zambian constitution, in favour of the UPND.
This was very clear for…
Quid-pro-quo in LAZ
Beauty & the Beast indeed
Criticizing or disrespecting Zambia’s new “god Lungu” is a treasonable offence.
Differing in opinion or disagreeing and speaking freely against this new “god” is a punishable offence, your newspaper or tv station will be shut down, your mobile phone will be shut down, your law associated will be raided and its executive subjected to impeachment.
Its a new order in Zambia.
May the real God in Heaven help us.
Lawyers are evil people! The legal system should be simplified so that everyone who can read should be able to represent themselves in a court of Law, however this is not what these greedy lawyers want. They are more interested in milking money from a stone than seeing that justice is heard. HumanHyena’s(HH) fake legal team have messed the man terrilbly and should’ve advised him- Linda Kasonde should’ve also looked at the baseless merit of that petition. But a just as feces attracts flies so to does a fool attract trouble and bad associates! Brig Gen Miyanda would make a better Lawyer than the whole of Laz combined!
Lawyers are evil people! The legal system should be simplified so that everyone who can read should be able to represent themselves in a court of Law, however this is not what these greedy lawyers want. They are more interested in milking money from a stone than seeing that justice is heard. HumanHyena’s(HH) fake legal team have messed the man terrilbly and should’ve advised him- Linda Kasonde should’ve also looked at the baseless merit of that petition. But a just as feces attracts flies so to does a cretin attract trouble and bad associates! Brig Gen Miyanda would make a better Lawyer than the whole of Laz combined!
This lawyer will even boast of having spent many years at UNZA dull as he sounds. He is the one that should keep quiet and the let LAZ president do her job instead. All is scared of is criticism. If someone sees the Judiciary to be in the wrong it’s very normal to be critical.
All institutions that help governance are being destroyed by PF,the country is slowly but surely moving into a lawless society but headed by s lawyer.There was a referendum on quitting IC,its a barometer for Kelvin FUBE to check the intelligencia’s thinking. Zambia is not Congo or Zimbabwe. Kelvin where have you been when mini bus driver and conductor were shot by Police. Where have you been when police killed so many people destroyed evidence. Where have you been when killers of Ruth Mbandu have gone free because police deliberately presented s weak case?HH may have done wrong,he’s not the first Zambian arrested for treason but NEVER have we had gates broken clothes and money stolen by police in executing an arrest.The Flight Sergeant death at Woodlands Police and subsequent desperate…
Linda is my rival. I hate smart ladies. It sucks haa. If we don’t deal with this gal now I tell you she will enlighten the ignorant and resist ECL’s third term drive with her law knacks. Let her be dealt with early. She must follow M’Memebe.
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Bla bla bla
Be nice. No need for that.
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Ok thanks my lady. Got you clearly. I try to joke with your strong character maybe you don’t like it. Apologies. Only I don’t understand why you seem to hate other tribe and not just bad opposition. Care to tell me now?
Mushota, you cannot live in the free and western world and still have a mind of a chimpanzee. Unless your stay is sponsored by chimpanzees then you should continue licking their unclean behaviour behinds
Well I think we can ask it talk to people a little moderately.
I don’t hate any tribe at all. Hate is a strong word I wouldn’t want to be associated with.
I just think it would be wrong to have a Tonga at the summit.
I dated a Tonga let’s just say – not ever again would I like to see any of their kind succeed.
Personal experience
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I hope you accepted my apology for my unseemly post. But I still don’t grasp your point my great lady because I don’t think one Tonga man you dated can be the same as all Tongas in any aspect. What’s at the summit that you reckon all Tongan cannot or do not have? Do you thing God created people differently? What you take on this? You can write your book and it will great to learn you views on this matter.
I honestly think Fube’s seriously mentally challenged. We all know the role the LAZ has played since the days of Dr Roger Chongwe. As an adviser, you tell the truth not damn hanging by the fence by being so called neutral. Even if this Govt doesn’t want to have anything to do with LAZ for being told the truth, so what? I honestly thought with a name Bwalya he is Bemba & would know the one about “Ichishinka cilomfwisha icifukushi ku mutisa”. If he wants to leak Govt a.ss, he should do so alone. I will leak the Kasonde one, any time!
Educated F00ls! No morals!
Anyone who has been reading can tell where all this is coming from. The poverty of Africa is the lack of wisdom.
Bwalya is PF but even Lungu had sidelined him because of his loud for nothing mouth. Only the other month he had a much publicized verbal altercation with that woman minister and MP for Kanyama. He is always up to picking up fights with people. And any lawyer who thinks the Constitutional Court acted well in the petition case or that this treason charge is premised on sound basis is clearly mad in the head! That’s Fube for you, cinangwa cikankala ci.kala chacine!
I recall KK legalizing multi party politics, these were his own words, and quote: “I’m signing the instrument, you can now go form your tribal parties”. We however stuck to MMD and chucked the damn stupid evil “Malawan” out of office. Now, if Fube thinks any evil malicious Govt can destroy the LAZ, let him bail out. When Lungu is chucked out, the current status will be restored any any treacherous zealots like him will be kept outside never ever to practice again.
Check Mushota @1.1, does that contribution make sense to anyone? It’s this clearly lack of the ability to reason and articulate matters intellectually in a sustained manner I find most disturbing in most Zambians. Is it a result of a faulty education system or maybe with Mushota its “mashabe”and she needs “muti wa sangoma?”
@MuubaKa Mushota is a narcissist (a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves). She/ he (yes she had a sex change) delights in extolling her perceived idols! One minute she like Senior Citizens critics them next she delights. However, this is a cookie before she crumbles.
Linda must go.
Linda has really been undressed.
1. “We as LAZ are advisers and thus LAZ must be neutral. At this stage, Government doesn’t want to have anything to do with LAZ and we are useless without Government. The Association must have a cordial relationship with the Government, off course that does not mean that we should be bootlickers,”
2. “Our history as LAZ is that when a question of a legal nature arises that divides the nation, LAZ calls for an EGM. That has been our history. So that the Executive gets its mandate before it speaks but this Council never consulted its membership before making some of the wrong decisions it has made,”
3. “Last year during the petition, the Constitutional Court threw out the case because the 14 days period had run out. The LAZ Council was quick to issue a statement that the UPND must have…
…been heard and by doing that, they were basically issuing a challenge to the Judiciary,” he said.
He added, “On the issue of the referendum, without consulting the members, LAZ took a stand that we should vote No. Looking at the divisive nature of the referendum debate, I think we should have maintained neutrality as LAZ.”
4. “How do you explain the streaming Live of the UPND press conference via the LAZ Facebook page, who does that? I am a member of LAZ and I don’t accept that and don’t tell me because I am politician then I shouldn’t speak. We should maintain our neutrality as an association.”
5. “…Take the case of the Post Newspaper, they were found liable by the Supreme Court, the Council took a certain position without consulting their members and they said they were…
…fighting for constitutional rights for Fred M’membe. What constitutional rights and you have been found guilty? You can never benefit from an illegality and if some people were sleeping when they were teaching that principle of law, then I am sorry.”
THESE ARE POWERFUL POINTS THAT SUMS UP THE SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS OF LAZ TODAY. KEY POINTS: NEUTRALITY, INTERNAL CONSULTATION AND COLLECTIVITY, NOT TAKING POLITICAL SIDES!! THIS IS THE REASON PARLIAMENT WANTS TO REARRANGE LAZ AND I FULLY SUPPORT THEM.
Kelvin Bwalya Fube, Look who is talking. A career of scandal after scandal and you should be holier than thou. Kelvin, Sit down. We know you have been thrown out of the inner circle at the party but use other civilised means of getting back and not these unproductive fights
LAZ had become a political party, no doubt about that, the are inclined towards opposition.
As Fube has siad, they need to maintain neutrality at all time, they must interpret the law to all of us who may not understand it well. Taking sides is not interpreting the law – their position must be informative to give guidance and not fighting anyone.
Having said that, its an honour to have a lady leading an association like LAZ, you know these empty phrases of equality when God says man is the head, but she must be neutral, let her promise to be neutral if that is impossible please show her the door.
Fube you are a real man, keep it up.
Why is it that it is only PF cadres condemning LAZ and Linda in particular. that should tell the people something about these selfish id1ots
This is not about PF or UPND – LAZ must be neutral. they are lots of people behind bars who needs proper legal representation. Some of these have been jailed not because they were guilty but simply because no one was there to offer legal support. Why pick on the Post newspaper, why mmembe and not a poor guy who has been waiting for judgement for ages? If you cant see how biased LAZ has become then you need to keep quiet iwe Kaputo.
Mr Fube has hit the nail on the head. All the points raised are valid and no doubt the man is intelligent. !
Intelligent! My foot. What is the first thing that comes to your my mind when I see this guy? Crooooook period
Linda invited the current status Co to herself. LAZ needs a mature and neutral person. We do not need such partisan leadership at LAZ.
Simply put, absurd, preposterous rants coming from a lawyer who claims to have been at LAZ for 30 years, really? Why were you not elected to lead LAZ after amassing all that fake experience? Its not the number of years that one spends in a company or association that makes them fit for a position, its integrity, probity and impartiality that counts. So this moron of a lawyer is jealous of a young and vibrant President presiding over the affairs of LAZ in in an impartial way? See, not everyone is a bootlicker like you Fube, the sooner you realize that the better. If the visionless misfit is using you, sorry we the masses are with Linda Kasonde and your maneuvers will not work. Get a life and your dirty hands off Kasonde.
Well said. I couldn’t have said it any better than that.
You PF rascal leave the young lady alone… why are you like that you idi0ts?
He should have said LAZ is infiltrated by the opposition kwapwa instead of all those explanations.But is it not true that LAZ defends the law?The live streaming is a bit unprofessional but you also as a LAZ member belonging to the ruling party and calling for LAZ to be neutral,you not the right person because of supposed conflict of interest.Removing Linda and installing a sucker will make LAZ a uselessness organization.It will fall in the category of ZNBC.The best LAZ should do is review their roles and obligations not dismantling which seems to be an easy thing to do.Find better and professional solutions and not political appeasement through dismantling of LAZ
ANY ONE WHO WILL GO FOR KELVIN FUBE’S IDEAR IS NOT A WISE LAWYER. HOW CAN YOUR FELLOW LAWYER INSIGHT YOU AS THOUGH YOUR REASONING IS DULL? I DO NOT KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING. WHAT HAS LINDA DONE TO YOU? THIS IS NOW A FULL TIME DICTATORSHIP AND WE ARE DOOMED.
PLEASE ALL WISE SC MUST PROTEST AND CLOSE THIS FUBEFUBE ( MIST) TO INFLUENCE YOUR WISDOM TO CONFUSION. REMEMBER THE PAST HISTORY THAT IT WAS KBF WHO BROUGHT PF INTO DISRUPT BY BRINGING IN LUNGU WHO IS NOW A DICTATOR AND I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT FUBE IS TOGETHER WITH LUNGU TO BRING THIS COUNTRY INTO ANARCHY . THIS ZAMBIA IS NOT FUBE AND LUNGU BUT FOR ZAMBIANS.
“IF WE DO NOT REMOVE LINDA,THE POLITICIANS ARE SAYING THEY WILL DISMANTLE LAZ INTO FRAGMENTS”, SAYS FUBE.So this is about removing Linda simply because LAZ’s position on most of the constitutional and other relevant issues do not please the government in power. They want a LAZ that will be supporting them in everything. LAZ’s mandate is to interpret the law correctly, not to please those in power. No wonder Mutinta Hichilema was saying we will soon have no real Zambia to live in.
I like Linda. I want to date her. My kinda of woman. Intelligent, got her on bread and she has the looks.
Let LAZ leadership do its work. LAZ has a dual mandate. First, promote a culture of human rights, rule of law and good governance on behalf of the public. Second, protection of the interests of LAZ membership. Emphasizing neutrality of LAZ membership at the expense of public good is out dated. Advocacy is a positive trend part of the new political culture that emerged in the Third Republic. During the Second Republic, it was unthinkable for LAZ to contradict government. Contrary views help to unveil the truth. For instance, Donald Trump wants targeted travel restrictions to fight terrorism. Certain American judges hold contrary views to Donald. Truth: conduct travel restrictions in accordance with the existing administrative law provisions and procedures until a new piece of legislation…
{Holding} contrary views help[s] to unveil the truth. For instance, Donald Trump wants targeted travel restrictions to fight terrorism. Certain American judges hold contrary views to Donald. Truth: conduct travel restrictions in accordance with the existing administrative law provisions and procedures until a new piece of legislation is passed by Congress.
Why is it only crooked lawyers like Lazy and Kelvin are against LAZ…they are like known drug dealers who are against regular patrols of police in their areas.
Kikikiki
She is doing the right job…thanks Linda…don’t let these corrupt good for nothing pf mamaparas get to you…responding to pipo like mushota is as good as having a Monkey brain…i just scroll whenever I see her name…Next
The only country under the sun that has no opposing voice is North Korea. Soon we’ll be saying North Korea and Zambia
@Mushota,
I am not a regular contributor to this LT forum but each time I do it seems you are top of the contributors with at least 2 on every topic. First of all to be honest I think you are a male bloke with inferiority complex pretending to be very highly educated by listing fake PhDs which you dream of every night. Just to give some examples, regularly your use of words is mixed up thereby distorting what you really want to put across. Perhaps the most ridiculous and embarrassing one is when you referred to HH as a fugitive. As far as the whole world knows HH is in prison right now and has never been a fugitive all his life. You are just pathetic! Look at ‘Senior Citizen’ and his contributions for example,…
Its very clear that you are not a regular contributor that you are responding to her/him instead of the topic!!
@Jay Jay,
It’s clear that you missed the essence of my posting otherwise you would have understood it all too well. The problem here is that I didn’t place you in the same class as ‘Senior Citizen’ who in my opinion is more objective than you.
I missed the point as I respond to the topic at hand and I don’t log in to stroke other blogger’s egos. I dont thinking you understand what blogging is all about and it not certainly not feeding trolls.
@Jay Jay,
Well, I may not understand what blogging is all about but I know that blogging is not about ‘Lazy Bum and Self Same’.
IF HH WINS THE COURT CASES, THEN PF IS FINISHED, LUNGU TELLS JUDGES, PROSECUTORS.
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President Edgar Lungu has warned that if HH manages to come out clean in the charges he is facing in court, then PF is finished politically as many Zambians will look at him (HH) as a hero. Addressing judges and prosecutors handling HH’s case at State House last night, President Lungu also blasted prosecutors for allowing UPND lawyers to mock them in court, much to the embarrassment of the executive. “I thought we are paying you for this job. I am disappointed that you have allowed yourself to be fooled in court by the UPND. Make sure that HH does not win these cases otherwise we are fished as a party (PF). We are really receiving backing from some of our friendly neighbors, so just carry on the…
I SERIOUSLY REGRET THE VOTE I GAVE PF. MY THINKING AT THE TIME WAS, WE NEEDED SATA AS MAN OF ACTION TO BRING ORDER. DID HE? SECONDLY, I FELT IT WAS ONLY FAIR TO ALLOW PF FINISH FROM WHERE SATA HAD LEFT. I MESSED UP
Big time! In politics there is nothing like ‘finishing where someone left’ aikona! You look at the performance of the economy to help you decide where to place your vote. Anyway thumbs up for admitting that you wasted your vote. It’s alright, let us just pray for God’s intervention in everything happening in this country. All women must rise against this injustice Linda is currently facing. We are mothers and when men mess up, we also get messed up big time.
@Mushota (continued from #26)
Look at ‘Senior Citizen’ and his contributions for example, the man is without doubt very highly qualified academically but has never displayed his educational achievements. I must say though that sometimes I don’t agree with his views. That’s normal.
Mushota I suspect you didn’t go beyond Grade 9, you just dream. Lately, many on this site have expressed how disgusting you are and have suggested you should be ignored. Take stock of yourself.
Imagine if you posted two paragraphs in response to the topic!!
As a real product of UNZA and from the RUINS, I sincerely and believe and convinced that this Linda Kasonde doesn’t know what she is doing, in other words, she aint a professional far from it.’
She has not added any value to LAZ since she was selected to lead it, how sad.
What would you equate as adding value to LAZ then? You think LAZ is an extension of Lubinda’s ministry
I believe it would be better to sit the LAZ Council down and advise them, not to remove them. I am sure by now, they have realised the error of their ways. If you have noticed, they (LAZ) have stopped issuing statements anyhow these days. I think they have learnt lessons. its best to give them an opportunity to show the change. Government must not be allowed to win this battle. Its just wrong on all levels.
Lazy is a weak leader and woeful lawyer who can not handle criticism…he is just after yes men – LAZ will not just stand by whilst the constitution and law is trumped on …had there not been LAZ those ministers would have got away with stealing taxpayers money. I highly doubt it if Lazy would have handled the more agressive Presidents of by gone years of the Kuanda and Chongwe.
When Musa Mwenya was supporting PF in the opposition it was ok. PF is allergic to criticism. They will die from heartache because criticisms will not stop. Fube and Tutwe are just selfish n greedy individuals. L. Kasonde is not a President for life of LAZ just like EL. You can endure both for a season. Akapendo kalapilibuka!
Excellent! You have hit the nail on the head!
LAZ is now conflictueus in Nature. Linda Kasonde is now the conflictueuzer. It is exasperating and inconceivable for Linda Kasonde to claim that she is neutral on political issues and make seem as if it is LAZ advancing these claims. Linda, Stress and anxiety can also get in your way of concentration. When you are tense and your mind is overstimulated or distracted, your ability to remember can suffer. Stress caused by an emotional trauma can also lead to memory loss. Nutritional and sexual deficiency also can make you say things that contradict each other. To shame them all kindly step down whilst you still hold you head high.
Help me understand : is what LAZ (check, not Linda) is saying in comformity with the Law of Zambia or not? That is what we should be debating on?
Fube is right.
M’membe and Mtembo Nchito are controlling Linda, and a few if her colleagues in the LAZ executive are compromised.
It is very clear from the behaviour of LAZ in the past.
Last year during the presidential petition they wanted to join the case in the name of friends of the court.
But how does LAZ join the case as Judges, are they?
So the court refused to grant, because there is no such privilege as “friends of the court” in LAZ Act.
Did they think the judges on their own were incapable of handling the matter? Did judges ask for LAZ assistance?
Then afterwards they condemn the judges for ending at 14 days when the judges followed the constitution.
So LAZ wanted to flout the Zambian constitution, in favour of the UPND.
Mmembe’s salary is/was USD 100,000= that is excluding allowances, without paying Tax, NAPSA etc any contributions were being paid by the company, now my question is can Mmembe fail to pay his lawyer, Nchito? Why should LAZ pay Nchito’s legal fees? Is Linda and her associates normal? This is not a Govt. issue but it concerns every up light citizen to why should LAZ pay?
MUSHOTA do you have a job,or are you just sitting writing stupid comments??????????
This government is too powerful…they need a strong push to stay on course…..so linda stays…..
Forget about LAZand concentrate on something else. KBF is too excited over nothing. Why are you bent on shutting down anything with opposing views? Pf as a government deserves every criticism it gets simply because the Lungu administration is incompetent and overall useless in all critical spheres of governance. Leave LAZ alone and focus on improving the economy of the country. KBF, st00p1d boy!!
Law Societies or Law Associations are supposed to be umbrella bodies of the attorneys’ profession in their respective countries. Their aims are to promote the common interests of its members with regard to the broader interests of the public whom the profession serves, to advance the examination of the law, the legal system, the legal profession, legal education, legal services and the effect of any of them on the community etc. Our LAZ IS clearly UNIQUE. THE LINE BETWEEN OUR ASSOCIATION AND POLITICAL PARTIES ARE SO BLURRED.
That is the democracy we wanted. If it is done within the confines of the law he (Fube) is free to do so. Others chose to walk out of parliament which to me is tantamount to refusing for a while to represent the electorates.
if the association fails to move the motion to remove Ms Kasonde’s executive, politicians will proceed with tabling the Law Societies Bill which will dismantle LAZ. fube why are you so bitter????
Fube is right.
M’membe and Mtembo Nchito are controlling Linda, and a few if her colleagues in the LAZ executive are compromised.
It is very clear from the behaviour of LAZ in the past.
Last year during the presidential petition they wanted to join the case in the name of friends of the court.
But how does LAZ join the case as Judges, are they?
So the court refused to grant, because there is no such privilege as “friends of the court” in LAZ Act.
Did they think the judges on their own were incapable of handling the matter? Did judges ask for LAZ assistance?
Then afterwards they condemn the judges for ending at 14 days when the judges followed the constitution.
So LAZ wanted to flout the Zambian constitution, in favour of the UPND.
if you wish create your own association with Edgar Lungu at state house which will be singing songs of praise to Political foolishness being exhibited by the blind and deaf ECL
Why is this president pre-occupied with the issues surrounding his legitimacy from among all the pressing matters affecting the nation that need urgent attention? Is he really enjoying a good night sleep over who recognizes him or not? What is there to force people into recognizing him as a winner of the last presidential election if he truly won as declared by ECZ? Why have we recently witnessed massive resignations at ECZ immediately after the disputed elections if their collective conscience is not eating them day and night? These and many more questions are lingering in the minds of many decent Zambians. Yesterday they were destroying Fred M’membe, the other day HH, Kambwili, Muvi TV, Chilufya Tayali, GBM and many others. Today they are destroying LAZ and Linda Kasonde. These guys…
Most of the institutions of the nations have greater fissures which will be difficult to seal.Institutions should not be infiltrated with people who have ulterior motives.That is why am against ministers assembling board of directors for reputable organisation.This is against the ethics of corporate governance.Individuals should be appointed by an independent body that shows neutrality and is impartial.Immediately,an institution starts towing political line,inefficiency and mediocrity creeps in.LAZ in its current state is infiltrated with politicians who want to please their masters.As long as a silent hand of politician is pushing the agenda of LAZ,nothing tangible and concrete will come out of it.Every decision will have a political inclination.It is a big shame.
Linda Kasonde was elected by LAZ to execute it’s mandate. She was not appointed by PF and edgar lungu for them to become her supervisor on how she performs are job. If Linda Kasonde has stepped on your feet, take her to court and let the courts come up with judgement. That’s how civilized people handle issues as opposed to using brutality on their perceived enemies. What will happen to this country if their brutality is met with an equal reacting force? War may start, so let’s be civilized in the way we handle matters to avoid conflicts………… This is the first time i have seen govt leaders who don’t believe in dialogue as an effective way of resolving conflicts. Micheal Sata and Levy Mwanawasa dialogued because they both had stamina needed for leadership unlike this crop of…
No my friend Sata and Levy never dialogued Sata just reconciled with Levy after Levy had evacuated Sata to SA after an illness that resulted from his incarceration by Levy over trampled unbailable motor theft charges.
I just picked ” HH calling honourable judges …..” If I were HH I would avoid appearing before these judges ..
.don’t expect any mercy ….no wonder that magistrate wants the State to make the treason charge much stronger.
Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification.
I do hope it is not misogyny by my learned counsel KBF.
Was Linda given an opportunity to respond in KBF presence. As a matter of politeness, did KBF talk to Linda before he went on air?
I agree with you but this kid or whatever his name is should be secure in his own and leave Linda alone. Experience does always and necessarily equal wisdom or better understanding of issues particularly in an African setting where some men feel entitled
Actually Linda and Mwitwa from LAZ consulted KBF on what they should do on their spat with government. KBF himself said this and there has been no denial from Linda. Check your news archives and you will see this. Problem with educated young ones, as KBF states, is the excitement of being in a position of influence and trying to ride roughshod over everyone else. It is not only in LAZ but everywhere these days.
There are very few educated young ones with the humility and wisdom to consult those that have been longer in organizations. They make you think experience does not matter as long as they want to have their way.
And this guy is supposed to be educated, clearly paranoid and sounds like a male chauvinist and sadly does not think that ‘young’ people add value to anything, what an ass hole. Leave Linda alone.
This dog called Fube,, a thief and a PF cadre will one day regret his actions. Each dog his his day. Leave Linda alone. She is doing a great work as LAZ president.
I honestly think Bube is smoking something very toxic and it has gotten to his “kalukobo”. See, the LAZ has a a mandate to promote a culture of human rights, rule of law and good governance on behalf of the public. How then does taking a stance of neutrality abode with promotion of human rights and the rule of law in the country? Like Sue Monk Kidd once said, and quote: “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.” The charges against HH are highly frivolous and we all know its just meant to punish him for defeating Lungu in the recent past polls that the PF rigged and blatantly denied him the victory he so well deserved. He might be Tonga and we know your tribal bigotry against Tongas blinds you in the…
…. PK Chishala extreme to reality. It looks like its so much easier for the likes of Fube to have much compassion for the people killed in Iraq but yet lack empathy for a fellow countryman just because he is Tonga and has variant political inclinations. The bigotry we harbour in our hearts, they’re vile and stink to the very heavens above.
Anyway, if anything happens to Linda, Fube should know I will personally hold his wholly responsible. And who spends 30 years in LAZ but fails to become even a mere committee member? Ubukopo ba Fube awe sure we chinangwa iwe ileke!
Fube has Clearly stated reasons why he is pushing for the motion that seem justified as things stand. It is not about him being called whatever names you bloggers wish. KBF ulinshimbi we need sanity in organisations driven by Professionals and yes LAZ in the immediate past has failled the test of Neutrality. Go ahead my Brother!
I am no lawyer but the Linda Kasonde LAZ executive has been a great embarrassment to the Zambian law profession. I have often read statements by Linda which left me thinking- “how on earth did she even become LAZ President!!!” Believing a LAZ president somehow represents the very best of our Lawyers, I began to wonder whether this is the shallow standard of lawyers Zambia is now producing. KBF calls it immaturity but i honestly think it’s a combination of foolishness and arrogance. PLEASE SAVE LAZ FROM THE JOKERS WHO ARE BEING REMOTE CONTROLLED BY NARCISSISTIC EXTERNAL FORCES.
Of course she has no time to run the assoc. properly, she’s far too busy writing self attention press releases; each with its own ‘first’ edition selfie picture…..pout to the left, pout to the right. “Yaaaaa, love yourself mwah, mwah.”
Unprofessional and boring. Who in their right mind takes on the government?
Fube wants to see a toothless and bootlicking LAZ subservient to PF. Zambia will be at the mercy of the greedy PF mercenaries abusing the laws of land to their advantage.
Trace the people who have been banging this Linda chick in the last 5 years and you will solve the LAZ mystery! Its obvious the girl is not thinking straight.
How best can the current Republican president be impeached?