PF law maker pours scorn on three Church mother body’s advice to release HH

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Patriotic Front (PF) Chasefu Member of Parliament  has castigated the three Church Mother bodies for demanding that the Opposition UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema should be released immediately.
Council of Churches in Zambia (CCZ), the Zambia Conference of Catholic Bishops (ZCCB) and the Evangelical Fellowship in Zambia (EFZ) held a joint media briefing at Lusaka’s kapingila house today and demanded the release of Mr. Hichilema forthwith.
And three church mother bodies in Zambia noted that the country now eminently qualifies to be branded a dictatorship under the leadership of President Edgar Lungu.
Meanwhile, Chasefu Member of Parliament Gerald Zimba described the three Church Mother bodies as disgruntled church leaders.
Chasefu lawmaker said it was shameful indeed that the church mother bodies have never taken time to seek an audience with the UPND members and their President Hakainde Hichilema for peace and harmony and advising the UPND to accept the legitimacy of President Edgar Lungu as Republican President because that is where all the mess in Zambia is emanating from.
Zimba stated that the named three mother bodies have never had the audacity to publicly condemn the UPND on their actions regarding the motorcade saga and it was unwise for them today to parade themselves in front of the UPND with a tailored speech alleging that the country is currently turning into a dictatorship and quoting verses that suit them.

“Disgruntled church leaders! Shame indeed. These chaps have never taken time to seek an audience with upnd and it’s president to sensor them and accept the legitimacy of President Edgar  Lungu as Republican president”

“This is where all this mess is emanating from. They haven’t publicly condemned the upnd on their actions regarding the motorcade saga and today they parade themselves in front of the upnd with a tailored speech and the country is turning into a dictatorship and quoting verses that suit them, what about ‘respect the government of the day as they have been appointed by God” Zimba said

And Patriotic Front (PF) Media Director Sunday Chanda has advised that both Government and the party are studying the statement by the church bodies.

In the  notice made available to the media yesterday Chanda noted that both Government and the Party are studying the statement by the Church bodies.

He said a response would  be issued at an appropriate time and urged  PF officials to refrain from commenting on this matter in the Media.

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  1. +10
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    Very true, honorable, shame on these bishops. How can you just get up and release a lawbreaker?? Why do we have the Judiciary????

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      Shame on the bishops. All leaders at any levels are appointed by God. Therefore EL must be respected by everyone. These bishops know better. Stop coursing confusion you bishops.

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      My self and my family don’t recognize Lungu as our president you can arrest us all..and torture us if you want we will not be forced into recognizing you sir…

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      “…disgruntled church leaders.”?
      YOU ARE SPARING THEM. THEY ARE A BUNCH OF IDI0TS.

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      JUST WATCH THESE IDI0TS. WE CAN’T FORGET THAT THE RWANDA MASSACRE WAS PARTLY CAUSED BY THE HEADLESS CATHOLICS. I HIGHLY SUSPECT THAT THEY ARE BANKROLLED BY GBM AND HH. AND BY THE WAY DID GBM TRULY GO TO INDIA TO HAVE HIS OVERLUDDEN KNEE FIXED OR JUST SOMEWHERE PLANNING WITH BAD GLOBAL EGGS? TRULY, CATHOLICS IN ZAMBIA ARE DISGRANTLED AND ARE A SHAME. THEY MUST TAKE A LEAF FROM THE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES WHO DO NOT MIX POLITICS WITH RELIGION. JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES WILL NEVER COMMENT ON POLITICS. BUT, THEY WILL COMMENT ON THE THING THEY KNOW BEST ONCE ASKED OR IN MINISTRY- THE BIBLE. CATHOLICS AND OTHER DISGRUNTLED CHURCHES JUST MISLEAD ZAMBIANS.

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      Call them PF Law Breakers instead. They don’t deserve to be called ‘law makers.’

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      Telephore Mpundu is a seasoned UPND cadre. The chaps are being used by UPND. It is such a shame

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      Does anyone take this chap and the criminal PF party seriously? The have failed miserably in governing this country. They should either shut or pack up. This country is now Zambiabwe!

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      How does one see that there is no order in a house? The head of the house issues orders through Chanda, the same day a Zimba goes against the order. There after it is business as usual. Sometime back the same office stopped all members of the party and govt from commenting on HH case without clearance. Ask Chanda if he has cleared any statement from team Mumbi and the rest? No is the simple answer. Signs of things to come in pf

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    The Bishops are God fearing they can see spirituality that the motorcade issue was planned by pf thugs. How cheap is the plot to implicate the opposition leader about the motorcade saga without Police sweeping the road in advance? You have been exposed by your evil plans. Light is more powerful than darkness, you are headed for doom. Ubupulumushi ngabwafula you cannot see but justify every evil action. Zambia teyenu Mweka.

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      His Grace, Archbishop Mpungu, is a holy man but Lungu is a Islamic Satanic (IS) savage.

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      IF MPUNDU IS A HOLY MAN HE SHOULD BE IN A POSITION TO KNOW THAT LEADERSHIP MUST BE RESPECTED AS IT IS FROM GOD. MPUNDU SEEMS TO BE STRUGGLING WITH THIS FACT. WHICH MAKES ME DOUBT HIS HOLINESS.

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    I can’t believe it that this donkey is now going after the church leaders when not too long ago you were the fools running to the church for some prayers..how can they forget that in such a short period of time…just release HH please end of story: this will not go away just like that…you are so damn the whole PF can burn in hell….leave the church leaders along once the chiefs and the church mother board gets involved just know that something is not going right…

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    I can’t believe it that this donkey is now going after the church leaders when not too long ago you were the fools running to the church for some prayers..how can they forget that in such a short period of time…just release HH please end of story: this will not go away just like that…you are so damn the whole PF can burn in hell….leave the church leaders along once the chiefs and the church mother board gets involved just know that something is not going right…

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    All PF Cadres and Sympathisers have deliberately ignored the core message of 3 church mother bodies. The church bodies believe the following, hence speaking for the unjustly treated HH:
    1. The Motorcade incident was a traffic offence, therefore a Charge of treason is unjust.
    2. HH was and is a suspect being treated like a convicted prisoner without rights. This is injustice.
    3. The manner of arresting HH was brutal and barbaric: People were beaten and injured, Property was destroyed, No police callout was issued. This is injustice and unprofessional of the police involved in the arrest.
    Anyone who disputes the above 3 issues is a hypocrite and blind to the truth.

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      Spot on! PF has lost its moral right to govern. They have adulterated our constitution, mutilated our democracy and all institutions, have presided over unprecedented corruption, committed too many atrocities, taken away citizen rights and freedoms, depleted the citizens financially and have reduced a once thriving nation to a laughing stock on the world stage. The best they can do is to admit that they have failed and heed the wise counsel of spiritual elders. Antagonizing the learned bishops is digging one’s political grave! Good and wise leaders have big ears and small mouths. Clueless leaders have big mouths and small ears. Who has ears to listen, let them also understand the wise counsel from the Bishops.

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    Thanks to the internet and YouTube.com, the inconvenient facts of the matter Lungu’s Govt and State prosecutors are facing is that the World can access the video clips of the motorcade incident in question and see for themselves NOTHING TREASONABLE HAPPENED. As a result, its proving very difficult for the prosecutors to exaggerate and make a case for even a traffic offence, much less a treason case.
    This is how dumb Lungu’s Govt is, and has degenerated mother Zambia down to a laughing stock to anyone in the World who has seen the Youtube video clips. Its extremely embarrassing in this day and age, and makes our colonial slave masters look like Sunday school teachers.

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    Bull crap…the demon in pf that almost destroyed the party after the death of Sata is now out to destroy the country and it’s institutions. Time for an exorcism and who better to lead it than the Church

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      Well said; the Catholic church that these people are castigating is what helped Sata and the PF into power; Nothing that was said by the arch bishop should cause scathing remarks but reflection; the truth hurts;

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    These Bishops are spiritually dead. They have no respect for judiciary. Someone has given them brown envelopes. It is true it was a tailored press conference. It was well attended by upndonkeys. Ecl don’t entertain them. They are boot lickers and homosexuals.

    I am not educated like Mushota but I understand some of these issues better than Garry, jack, gbv and kaponya. Can u please leave ecl alone ba sa..ta..na imwe.

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    PF cadres without wisdom, protecting your bellies is all you are good at. You can not even stand up to speak the truth because you are scared of losing borrowed jobs. When all is said and done, everything will be taken away from you. God is not blind neither does He have a deaf ear, He can hear cries in the wilderness. Remember that DAYS ARE NUMBERED. That man in Mukobeko prison is not a criminal, injustice at its best.

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    LUNGU LOST THE ELECTIONS THAT IS WHAT HE IS NOT COMFORTABLE BEING IN STATE HOUSE…. HE RIGGED THE ELECTION TO AVOID A RE-RUN.
    HE IS NOT A RIGHTFUL PERSON FOR THE TOP OFFICE…!

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      LUNGU “MENO MENO” LOST THE ELECTION. JOURNALISTS ASKING HIM ON HIS FAVORITE AIRPORT TARMAC, HE IS JUST ANNOYED FOR WHAT, NOBODY KNOWS. THIS HIV/AIDS SUFFERER SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME CLOSE TO THE SEAT OF POWER TO START WITH. WE ARE NOT THE ONES WHO INFECTED YOU. WALELASA WEKA AMAULE MUCHAWAMA.

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    As Mundia eloquently put it on another thread…..

    If a suspect shop lifter refuges to be searched……if a suspect rapist refuses to take a DNA test…….if a suspect robber refuses to stand on an identity line-up.. ….if lungu refuses to let nation hear the UPND petition against his stealing votes…….

    I will let you PF kaponyas fill in the blanks.

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    PF is in the path of self destruction. You finished the party yourselves.
    Sata was crazy but he knew how to assemble crazy people and managed them.
    Lungu is dull or idiotic who can’t manage to control crazy people.
    PF is now acceralating in the sloppy road

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      It’s okay to insult them if they are failing God. We protect Jehovah’s Church and we are charged with insuring our Redeemer Jesus Christ is kept away from Human things. These Pastors and congregants need to Worship him in Holiness and not engage in Gov’t things.

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      We are also allowed to call then Liars when their teaching and conduct does not add up to God’s ways.

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    The Church is not a political instrument made for running gov’t nor the control of the Judiciary. These bodies are indulging in matters they have little understanding of. Their stand is based on sentimental and sensational reasoning. It’s a fact that they have taken political sides.

    Zambia has the right to control its dangerous citizens and dangerous elements that threaten the state. This has nothing to do with HH. HE PUT HIMSELF IN THE WAY OF DANGER, by his own actions and needs to man up to his circumstances.

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      You are missing the point Bwana Patriot. The issue at hand is PF injustice and misrule. Yes the Catholic Church has it’s own issues but if what they say on the issue at hand is the truth, why are you bringing in peripheral issues? John the Baptist was beheaded also for speaking out against injustice. True Christians don’t keep quiet when atrocities are being committed. The spirit that burned in Elijah to confront Ahab and Jezebel lives on to this day. Quench not the spirit. PF must be told what they are doing is not right by any means. All manner of injustice must stop! The good bishops have set the ball rolling. Don’t be self-righteous and stick to the topic!

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      @Mwila

      What injustice and misrule? This is mass hysteria! UPND has been irresponsible. They have lost footing in politics and are now shameless little liars. These Church bodies should stay out of politics and concentrate on Biblical purpose. To use your example, when John The Baptist was beheaded, did Jesus speak out in protest, try to cause trouble in Jerusalem? Where in the bible have you seen this political and government intersection? Did King Herod support the request to hang Jesus. Did he not wash his hands of it?

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      Why even Pontius Pilate, had a tough time trying to please the ‘religious’ mob and keep the judicial requirements of the day.

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    It is sad to mock the Women “church” bodies, but it is true, the Women “church” bodies yesterday, were dead wrong! The Father Church Body says anyone who breaks the law must be charged.

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      Very well Jezebel sister – busy promoting PF filth! Watch out before you get flashed down together with the PF scum!

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    The Three Mansion was dancing thinking he was so powerful when he tried to destroy our country post elections last year. He cannot be allowed to continue doing the same.

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    Ba Zimba diploma in Booking and Accounts & being an MP is what can make you insult our Bishops?Pride will NOT take you anywhere “honorable”,humble yourself & listen to what they are saying.

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    The uniform and repeated rantings of the upnd supporters and leaders point to one thing: THERE IS NO ROADMAP/STRATEGY/PLAN beyond the petition!!! A political party that has a roadmap never wastes so much time on one thing, they examine their weaknesses, strengthen them and implement a winning formula. Flashback to USA, the 60s: Richard Nixon lost to JFK-did he start exhibiting unnecessary behaviors or character attacks on the JFK?? No, he got down to business and started implementing his new strategy and until he overturned the democrats eight years later on his third attempt. upnd doesn’t have a strategy to convince or inspire voters in the 6.5 to change their minds, HENCE DECEIVING ITS SUPPORTERS THAT THE PETITION IS STILL ALIVE!!
    upnd political strategists (if there are any??)…

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    …focused on the 50+1. In 2015, ECL only got 45% and the upnd planners thought he wouldn’t hit 50+1. The 14 day time limit on the petition is not a PF manipulatipn, it was there when Mwanawasa pushed for the Mung’omba Commission to enact the new constitution; UPND WAS PART AND PARCEL OF THIS PROCESS THROUGH THE NCC AND THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE. They can’t turn around today and blame the PF that the petition wasn’t heard, they were fully aware of this technicality; How can they not be aware because their founding father Anderson Mazoka himself petitioned Mwanawasa’s Election in 2001 and they knew the flaw in the old constitution???

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    Ruling party and Opposition parties, including the clergy for and against the state, must sit down and dialogue. There is more to be gained in dialogue. Stubbornness, insolence, and arrogance wont take any camp any where. Even the chaps with brains in their toes from both UPND and PF who are insulting on these forums must be ignored.

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    Biblically there is no leader who has rejected the advice of the clergy and has survived the issue. Dan Yaro is right to suggest an indaba for all. Arrogance and self esteem will yield nothing but disaster for Zambia. We need peace in Africa as problems of Zambia will affect all neighbours and beyond as seen elsewhere. The problem in Africa is greed for power by those vying for high offices even when they have not been legally put on their positions. When are we going to have clean elections in Africa?

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    The Catholic is a small church but more less like a government of the entire world. Only bush products will with little MINDS will dismiss the dictatorship of Chakolwa kamina miss Lungu. Whatever goes up comes down . Lungu will cry and run to the same bishops he is insulting. Lungu is shameless and not smart politician to compare with Kambwili, or HH. A politician listens and evaluates what is happening on the ground. He became PF leader by manipulation and anarchy. However kills by sword will die from sword. Lungu must know this.

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    @ “respect the government of the day as they have been appointed by God”… how s!lly. Lungu appointed by God or forced himself to the presidency by manipulation and crookedness… first by playing to tricks to ascend to the PF presidency and then stealing and manipulating national elections results. How can he possibly be appointed by God, or you mean the PF god?

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    put pieces to together then you see what the church is talking about. in law someone is Innocent until proved guilty by court proceeding but how do you punish someone before court found him guilty. a good leader will not accept this treatment of any citizen. if we let this go on even you or any one in power today will be treat with the same measure. so follow the law not feelings for any case.

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    But I thought bishops/pastors/churches are supposed to be neutral and teach us to be peaceful and law-abiding.
    Now they are all being partisan.
    Where are we going in this country kanshi?
    Shame!!
    We are fed up of hearing PF this and UPND that. Are we going to discuss this until forever? Whoever it is who is in government be it UPND or PF or whoever, please lets work and get on with the job.
    At the end of the day its us citizens who suffer!!

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