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President Edgar Lungu Press interview before Leaving for Swaziland for State visit

PRESIDENT Edgar Chagwa Lungu has challenged the Law Association of Zambia to form political party and stop hiding behind the curtain of a legal association .

Speaking before his departure to Swaziland at Kenneth Kaunda international airport, the head of state took a swipe at the legal body stating that they are abusing a very noble profession.

“Let them form a political party let them go ahead. Let them not abuse the profession it is a noble one,” President Lungu said.

“I challenge them to form a political party because what they are doing is politics”

He said it is totally unacceptable for LAZ to be playing politics.

“To abuse the law, the legal profession I belong to is totally unacceptable it is a very noble profession,” said President Lungu.

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President Edgar Lungu greets Pf Cadres at the airport
President Edgar Lungu greets Pf Cadres at the airport
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President Edgar Lungu Leaves for Swaziland for State visit
President Edgar Lungu talks to Vice President Mrs Inonge Wina at the airport
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110 COMMENTS

  1. Why is it so difficult to listen to people with dissenting views? Why should everyone who says something contrary to your ideologies always been viewed as a political enemy?

    • He is right as well

      Since Kasonde (WHo I am told is a Tonga) came as the face of LAZ, they have lost credence and are a sham.

      They have no credibility whatsoever.

      I know Kasonde thinks she can do a Chiluba and end up in state house, but she has the wrong end of the stick and she is delusional in my eyes

      She needs to STOP pretending she is interpreting the law fair and square and quiet frankly just join UPND.

      She is is a disgrace and she MUST listen to me as I have a PhD and know what I am talking about.

      I am 27 and I think I am more mature

      The end is near for Kasonde.

      I have a PhD

      Thanks

      BB2014,2016

    • Nobody has a problem with sensible dissenting views. The problems comes out when i.d.i.o.t.s start abuse the freedom of expression.

    • I respect professionalism but LAZ under Kasonde has dangerously skewed into a willed sparkplug for despondency. They are resorting to every unorthodox tactics to create a constitutional crisis. What she said yesterday is neither an act of aberration nor deviance, but a push for switch ‘N play. Watch this space.

    • The guilty are always afraid. Why does the man want the whole country to shut up? No independent journalism, no free expression on social media etc., What is he afraid of?

    • Ba Inonge please stop escorting ECL to the airport. Stay in your office and manage things. Very dull aba ba Mayo, mwe!

    • No doubt Linda Kasonde has become the most influential woman in Zambia, whenever she talks PF is dancing!!!
      I am really very concerned and I am sure majority of the people who are not PF are feeling the wrath. Why has it become a norm that whoever, has a different opinion is tagged as UPND?
      This is troubling honestly, PF doesn’t accept any criticism whatsoever, that is the problem. For as long as the President will be just President for PF and not all Zambians, then this is not leading any positive end. PF seems to be enforcing itself to be right at all costs if you have a different opinion you are UPND. No that should not be the case. Support the minority, Support Linda !!!!

    • LAZ has always been biased since this girl took over. Their opinions are never in favor of the ruling party. There is need for the state of emergency in the country given what is going on. At the same time I dont understand why the president should be responding to them. I dont think Lungu is a dictator but, he is slowly leaning in that dierection because of his need to get recognized. The Zambian people voted and you won. focus on ruling and improving the lives of the people. Ditractors will always be there.

    • The Evil Malawian Dictator is the dullest lawyer UNZA has ever produced. Maybe it’s brain damage from too much alcohol.

      He can’t even interpret the constitution he swore to defend in front of 60,000 PF00Lish cadres at Heroes Stadium.

      He & his thug followers even think he’s eligible to stand in 2021. He can’t interpret that the clause is specific to an elected Veep who takes over after the death of an incumbent president. NOT a hand-picked defence minister.

    • Kasonde seems to fail to understand that there is a Judiciary in Zambia and all Lawyers are members of the same. A legal opinion is only that, an OPINION and it is not law, regardless of how high and mighty the person who makes it is. It has to be tested in a court of law. Kasonde wants to sound as though her opinion with her UPND surrogate Council is the law, it is not.
      How can she say that the President acted according to the law, but was unwise? Who is she to decide on what is wise?

    • Mr President, do you belong to LAZ? Were you not suspended for lack of integrity, misappropriating clients money? Since your leaving and the coming of PROFESSIONALS to LAZ, is now functioning as it should. We know you, your aim is to silence ANYONE with divergent view from your party’s. Your time beckoning, and that of your cabre of becoming

    • There is Lazy Lungu boarding an aircraft with the whole cabinet and cheerleaders with no shame whatsoever!!

    • Linda has no balls to enter politics. She can be completely decimated politically. She dates one of the UPND lunatic-insult-loaded goons. Seeing ECL lead is like pain in her azz-hole.

    • Lungu has issues with LAZ for having punished him on his impropriety and he is only out to “show” LAZ as to who is in charge regardless of the law! Why should everyone who holds a dissenting view be challenged to join politicking or to form a party? Its like participating in ones own country on matters of governance is only through political party affiliation! What dullard of leadership!

    • HOW THE P.F. CITY MARKET SUSPECTS WERE CAUGHT:
      Girlfriend to the ring leader was seen night before the inferno removing all her items from her shop telling her close friend ati, Ku zankala mulilo. Police were later told of this story who later picked up the woman for questioning especially why she decided to remove all her items from her shop in city market. After torture, she later revealed the key suspects who also revealed others making a total of eleven of them. So ba P.F, don’t you think you owe UPND an apology for wrong accusations?? You are now hiding their names in your headlines and just saying 11 suspects….if it was UPND you were even going to tell the whole world..!!

    • The man is blind folded. This is start of failure. Lungu will fail badly and all these people misleading him will run-away from him, come 2021 when he loses. Just like what happened to RB..

    • He swindled a widow from Chilanga Cement & drunk all the money. His practicing license was cancelled by LAZ.

      That’s how he decided to try his luck in politics. Zambians are now suffering due to this dictator’s misbehaviour.

  2. LAZ has brought out very important points. The most important is the power vested in the police during this period. Human rights of people are at stake…

    The other thing is how does something qualify to be called arson if there are no established facts of the cause of this acts…??

    This is a democracy and citizens should learn to ask such types of questions…. Hands up to LAZ… for taking up such a stance…

    • What is the purpose of LAZ in Zambia? Let us all read their Act and understand why LAZ seems to be off guard every time. That is my opinion. Because it is always an issue.

    • The government does not need to wait for the investigation to be concluded. You have to take the other cases into consideration. The one fire has not happened in a vacuum. stop the intellectual mastB.

    • @ Miya, my opinion is that LAZ should not be separated from the Judicial wing of government for effective checks and balances in governance! As it is it comprises a membership that punished Mr Edgar Chagwa Lungu (ECL) a one time lawyer from practicing by de-registration/suspension for his ethical impropriety! It seems ECL is alive to the fact that despite his reprieve by the late Michael Sata is ultra vires under the LAZ Constitution thus ECL harbors a bitterness denting his ego! Ba pulezidenti tabakene ukwibila namayo impiya shakwe mukusumina balandile fye ati “Nalimubweseshe!”

    • And those white Timbs ZAF Gen Chintu is wearing? What happened?

      Meanwhile, let us bring sanity and professionalism to official duties by taking those dancing sweaty cadres away from the Airport.

    • Not a single headline today about the Harmageddon Hellboy (HH)

      Even his cadre gutter trash journalists have forgotten to write about him. Time to move on with Linda Tuswende as UPND running mate.

      Mutinta thought a volcano would erupt when her hubby was caged. She’s now gotten used to sharing him with the sodomizers at Mukobeko. AIDS will kill (HH)

      Hang Him/
      Behead (HH)

  3. PF cadres look better than UPND ones… I’m forming an opinion about Linda Kasonde. I’m gonna reach my conclusion soon but she for now she seems biased and bitter about PF… Go well Mr President. Some of us (more than 51%) love and appreciate you…

    • You have problems with maths. On the other hand, all 1mbeciles like you have problems with maths. Just check the contributions, 51%???

  4. I highly doubt this guys creditials as a lawyer…the bum is very dull indeed and he does not help matters with such reckless utterances. Please UNZA publish his result..lets see his grades in at all he attended.

  5. Kindly let the babon do another miracle more than the one witnessed by R.B. I feel a second shocking incidence is going to happen. How l feel it happens soon to that person who feels is special so that some of the actions He is taking will put under check. Don’t question me because lam seeing this happening. Don’t anyone for sure not get shocked how a babon can switch off power. Is it a miracle.

  6. Lungu can’t run a democracy or govern our country in the 21st Century. Instead of challenging LAZ on the basis of the law or credible legal opinions he is ranting like a very drunk cadre. Why does he want them to form a political party when he himself has never formed one, and he is sangwapo president. He is a shallow , simpleton who can not reason. LAZ is right on the law and is led by lawyers with more recent education and far superior grades than his apprentice very old law degree with most of his course work now out of syllabus. He was probably drunk and ranting after a few doses of vodka. Lungu zwaa! We need to put in sane and sober guy to lead.

    • Ecl graduated with a distinction degree. His results still stands amoungst the best law students unza has ever produced. Some of you are only supporting Linda based on tribe and not what she bluffed. If you really analyse what she writes against the founding principles of the association you will see how she errors.

    • “We need to put in sane and sober guy to lead.”-Who is we?? Last time I checked the same “we” in majority chose Edgar Lungu. Why are you supporting a lost cause because upnd has withdrawn their case for Article 31 in ConCourt and Linda looked pretty s.t.u.p.id by echoing upnd’s case??? You are the one who sounds drunk, my friend…

    • If Lungu graduated as you are saying, why has he never worked anywhere? Show us his CV?

    • Lungu was post news paper lawyer for many years. Fred used to make lots of blanders which ecl defended. You don’t even know who made post survive closures from mmd regimes. The moment ecl left, post became defenseless because Freddie employed the cartel lawyers who failed to defend it. That is just one credentials about ecl. He is good at mind games just like José morinho. Hate him but love the game or love him but hate the game.

    • @10.3 The Engineer, Its important to fact check. Are you sure you an Engineer? I ask because, an Engineer never assumes. Anyhow below is bit about him.

      Mr Lungu did his high school at Mukuba Secondary School before enrolling at the University of Zambia where he studied law and graduated as one of the best law students on October 17, 1981.
      He went to the Zambia Institute of Advanced Legal Education (ZIALE) and in 1983 bagged his legal practicing certificate at the first crack.
      It is worthwhile to state that Mr Lungu only completed his ZIALE course in 1983 because he had some work stints as a lawyer at the Ministry of Justice, Zambia Consolidated Copper Mines (ZCCM) and Barclays Bank Zambia Limited, among others, before he eventually obtained a law practicing certificate.
      Many…

    • Continued….. lawyers have to sit for a law practice certificate examination a dozen times before they get the certificate because it is not a walk-over assessment.
      Mr Lungu is an accomplished lawyer who worked for Andre Masiye and Company in Lusaka before he felt that the court room was not big enough to change people’s lives.
      He briefly joined the United Party for National Development and later bid farewell and went to the then little known PF. In 2001, he stood as Chawama member of Parliament but lost. He remained in the PF Central Committee and in 2011, contested the Chawama seat and won, this time around.

    • @ Nigga

      What about his highest professional achievements? After all, he work very hard to bag CONVICTION FOR EMBEZZLEMENT!!! Give credit to the CONVICTED EMBEZZLER
      Please, do not call your fathers “donkeys”. Your mother may be upset, not because of the size of “donkeys” penis (which she did enjoy very much) but it will create problems with your birth certificate

    • @daktary, who do you have in mind who can lead this nation currently? At the moment there is no credible opposition to do so. No upcoming promising party to lead…………….. God have mercy on our country.

  7. LAZ raised valid points here and because they are so delinquent, they refuse to reason and address the issue at hand. Being dumb as they are, Bullying is their first choice of addressing issues with opponents.
    Join politics so we can raid your homes and lock you up…..

  8. So it was Lungu who actually wrote the statement issued by that lady information Minister , huh?

  9. They shall Never Form a Political Party .LAZ Has a Mandate , They Already have insight on what you really want to do with TSOE(Threatened state of …)

    • I’m just amazed at the level of pettiness and ignorance exhibited by the sympathisers of the UPNDonkeys on here. Imbeciles the lot of them. Can’t you see Edgar’s statement is simply sarcasm? He is simply telling LAZ to stop politicking, as it is not their mandate to do so. Like I have said before UPNDonkeys and their sympathisers never see the wood for the trees.

    • @ Nigga

      What about his highest professional achievements? After all, he work very hard to bag CONVICTION FOR EMBEZZLEMENT!!! Give credit to the CONVICTED EMBEZZLER
      Please, do not call your fathers “donkeys”. Your mother may be upset, not because of the size of “donkeys” pen1s (which she did enjoy very much) but it will create problems with your birth certificate

  10. Lungu is indeed a shocking SOB! Just how many people and institutions is he going to fight at the same time? And what’s in Swaziland he is going there to do so soon after the Sadc meeting? You bet it’s the reedmat dance, he wants a young tight Pu.ssy and not the “Ocean” one between Dora’s legs with lots of Aids.

  11. Lungu has gone ballistic becoz LAZ observed very Pertinent Points. In declaring a Threatened SOE (TSOE) under Article 31 Lungu thought he could achieve certain objectives which can only be achieved under Article 30 which provides for a Full SOE. Under a TSOE Lungu cannot abrogate the Constitution and in particular the Regulations should not violate the Bill of Rights. Lungu wanted to take away People’s Rights but he cannot do so under Article 31 or TSOE. This means no work done for Lungu and thats why he is upset with LAZ. Well done LAZ. Just for interest sake. After stealing a Client’s money Lungu was deregistered as a Practicing Lawyer. Was the Ban for Lungu lifted?

  12. “Kasonde,” the Tonga, must form a party or officially state that “her and ‘LAZ’ ” are official organs of UPND. The president is a lawyer too and in the history of UNZA he was the first student ever to graduate with a distinction. Don’t think he cannot interpret the law! I am also aware that law interpretation can be dependent, sometimes, on what you want it to say! So, get out woman!

  13. #10! As delusional as you tribal people are, Do you think if I showed you his track record you will believe now? No! If HH or any Tonga says anything including lies you all will believe that! Why? Because they are Tonga! That is how Namwala operates!

  14. Engineer, When you see his CV you will start respecting him. Where were you when it was made public? As always you are 100 years back wards. Ba Mulenga surely, where have you seen an imbecile getting 50+1 votes, which has left you stunned and failed to recover, you have ended up doing the unthinkable that has shocked the whole world) You are as drank as your ridiculous president.

  15. The Tonga view which they see as “Dissenting view” is actually an agenda of UPND a party that has not conceded defeat and they think we are that naïve! What a pathetic and childish party!

    • Why always bring in tribalism you PF cadres? What is it about you and tribe? Can’t you think without thinking tribe? To you everybody with different viewpoint has to be a certain tribe. Why? I’m really getting fed up with this.

  16. E.C.L is in charge as at now till August 2021, of which he will get another 50+1% vote n continue to be in charge till 2026. So for all you critics n pontists MWALOBA ILYA UMA. MAY GOD BLESS US ALL IN THIS ONE
    ZAMBIA N ONE NATION

  17. There is No need to be angry on the part of Lungu. He needs to cool down. LAZ gave its own Legal Opinion on Article 30 and 31 and its up to a Court to rule the correct interpretation of these clauses. Just like in the Case of Ministers who illegally stayed in the posts, Concourt can interpret Article 30 and 31. LAZ’s interpretation of these Articles is correct and its up to Lungu to check it out with Concourt. The Threatened SOE (TSOE) needs Regulations. The Police needs Regulations to exercise their increased powers. Does TSOE abrogate the Constitution or not and in particular what happens to the Bill of Rights? LAZ says TSOE does no infringe on the Bill of Rights. What does useless and compromised Concourt say?

  18. The democracy you are enjoying by insulting the Head of State is not found in dictatorships otherwise this democracy will go when there is no security and responsible conduct. You will not even have access to the so called social media which your are abusing now. Remember the Bill of Rights was de campaigned by UPND and the referendum failed.

  19. Zambians were warned and they saw that ECL is not presidential material but they went ahead and voted for a LAZ convict and a self-confessed Mr Visionless. Pride indeed goes before the big fall. He who loves correction is wise and adds to his understanding. He who refuses advice is self-condemned and as the bible says, he who refuses correction is S.t.u.p.i.d (dull)! Every citizen and every institution has the God-given right to question the president! If the job is proving difficult, better to quit and allow others who have what it takes to run national affairs. Did this man listen to Saviour Chishimba’s rebuke? A normal person should change after that kind of a rebuke but some people are beyond redemption!

    • Proverbs 12:1 reads, The person who loves correction loves knowledge, but anyone who hates a rebuke is s.t.u.p.i.d!

  20. It is inconceivable for LAZ to bury its head in the sand when cases of arson and sabotage of Zesco installations have been committed to disrupt industries. Besides Larry Mweetwa has opened a can of worms. LAZ under Kasonde has embedded itself in UPND to fight the PF Government – thus having caged many professional Lawyers under its siege.

    Members of LAZ who have been gagged can lobby MPs to revisit the existence of the current Law Association Zambia with a view to creating another body that will respect the value of their Membership subscriptions. This move will then allow Linda Kasonde, Mutembo Nchito, Musa Mwenye and the rest of the Cartel to openly offer legal defense to HH and UPND.

    • i think you are very right. why is she not referring some section of the law which does not allow the president to act in such a manner. the lawyer now what to confuse us. why ranting without facts what qualifies the corrum, she just saying she thinks it was not enough givers numbers please. don’t condemn without facts as a lawyer. this LAZ president has failed the association.

  21. Lungu is the least person to demand LAZ to form political party because Lungu does not know how, what , when to open up this mouth or what calibre , determination and resolve it takes to form a club or political party. Lungu has no quality or resolve to stand pressure or divergent views as the hold on to a silver plate borrowed power is too much to comprehend with 0r to listen and analysis the views from others. He is consumed and blind foldered by borrowed power from Zambians.

  22. This is the basic problem with Lungu. He doesn’t accept other Peoples views and if u differ with Lungu’s views then u are an enemy.Lungu is not a Democrat thats why he is in a hurry to establish his own Dictatorship. Lungu declared TSOE to achieve certain Political objective and National Security is a side show. TSOE is meant to stifle a free Press and persecute HH,UPND and all those opposed to Lungu’s Dictatorship. Dictator and Sadist Lungu is at War with the Press,HH,UPND,Chiefs, Rivals, Opponents and all those opposed to his views. Lungu should address the very Pertinent Issues raised by LAZ. Its in Lungu’s interest to do so.

  23. LAZ Court Party (LCP) is hereby launched and the LAZ for lawyers abolished.

    To avoid democratic elections the Interim Executive is led by First presidenT and General Secretary General Linda Kasonde.
    Former LAZ Council transformed into LCP party Executive.

  24. As usual, he holds most ‘press conferences’ on the airport tarmac. What questions do these journalists ask him, by the way? They look timid. He has not rebuffed LAZ’s statement with any counter legal arguments or shown that the facts on the ground justify the invocation of Article 31. Neither has his minister of information nor any of his advisers. So who is actually just politicking and reacting to perceived enemies?

    He is on a worthless trip again. All those cadres and ‘service men’ should set up permanent homes at the airport. To and fro, to and fro at immense cost.

    He speaks about law as ‘a noble profession’. Did he not bring it into disrepute himself, when he was banished from practising? Lungu is in this position by pure chance and ‘Inonge’s antics.

    • that has always been my problem,no one asks him any tough questions thats why he makes these”statements”and thats why he cant face a BBC interview

  25. Most of us who criticize the PF path DO NOT even belong to UPND, it’s just the love for our country which we don’t want to go the Zimbabwe way………the only goodness about Zambia is that one day ECL and PF will not be in charge but we should NOT let them set BAD examples to future LEADERS!!!!!!!

    • Excellent@Leonard Zimba you are absolutely spot on! We love our country. We do not want to see it reduced to the way Zimbabwe is.Even me am neither PF nor UPND but would just love to see peace and justice prevail in our motherland.

  26. Never mind the posts of UPNDonkeys, thinking is alien to all donkeys.
    But let them tell us whether underfive allowed his donkeys to meet. Did he?

    • Please, do not call your fathers “donkeys”. Your mother may be upset, not because of the size of “donkeys” pen1s (which she did enjoy very much) but it will create problems with your birth certificate as to the name of your father

  27. The President should have simply said “LAZ is entitled to their own interpretation of the law”. It is not possible for everyone to agree with you in the country

  28. Bone of contention: LAZ’s coram n Govt’s Quoram
    What is QUORUM?
    When a committee, board of directors, meeting of shareholders, legisla- tive or other body of persons cannot act unless a certain number at least of them are present, that number is called a “quorum.” In the absence of any law or rule fixing the quorum, it consists of a majority of those entitled to act. See Ex parte Willcocks. 7 Cow. (N. Y.) 409, 17 Am. Dec. 525: State v. Wilkesville Tp.. 20 Ohio St 293 (Black’s Law Dictionary)

    What is CORAM?
    Latin word meaning; Before; in presence of. Applied to persons only. Townsh. PI. 22 (Black’s Law Dictionary)

    The term coram is used in phrases that refer to the appearance of a person before another individual or a group. Coram non judice, “in the presence of a person…

  29. When u see Lungu retort to LAZ that way then u know Lungu is offside. Lungu’s main objective in declaring a SOE is to silence all those with divergent views to his. Lungu wanted to keep HH in Jail indefinitely using TSOE and destroy him and his Party UPND so that in 2021 Election he has No competition. Unfortunately for Lungu under TSOE he cannot do what he wanted to do. He needs Article 30, a Full SOE to silence and persecute his Opponents as he so wishes. Lungu invoked a wrong Article for the purpose. Lungu wants to do what he did in the Treason Case. He charged HH for Treason in a Traffic Offence. Lungu wants to do what he is allowed to do under a full SOE using TSOE which LAZ says its unconstitutional. Under TSOE the Constitution and Bill of Rights remain valid. After 90 days TSOE…

  30. ELC Should grow thick skin.The problem is that he listens and pay attention to every petty things in the country.Time is money.He should not be destructed in his will to take Zambia to greater heights of development by people who do not mean well for our nation.In 2021 the same people will be listing things which ELC &PF govt failed to accomplish.So Mr President concentrate on your work. Zambia is underdeveloped because people mandated with service delivery offices do not know when to do politics and when to move as a nation.Zambia helped a lot of neighbouring countries gain Independence and today we can not compare the strides they have archived in terms of infrastructure development, trade,economy,GDP,and not forgetting love and respect for divergent views. ie Namibia(1990)

  31. Anyone who opposes ba mwine should open a political party. Manje how many parties are we going to have. its like divorcing your wife everytime you have a misunderstanding. I wonder how he went through law school with such a low IQ.

  32. On the quorum issue LAZ is vague. They make a comment that they have “noted with concerns on whether a proper quorum was formed at the National Assembly when the declaration by the President was approved” and goes on to state that they cannot comment any further as the matter is sub judice. One of the meanings of sub judice is that the matter is under judicial consideration and therefore prohibited from public discussion elsewhere.

    So why then did LAZ even render an opinion that is not even backed by LAW when the matter is sub judice? One can conclude that their intention was to mislead the masses because LAZ cannot pass verdicts. They know that is a mandate of the Court. LAZ in this case did not render any legal direction because they did not cite any authority to back the concerns…

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