EPP President Chilufya Tayali has come out in support of the Tender for the Purchase of the 42 Fire Trucks. In a statement released to the media, Mr Chilufya said that said that the public was being unfair, unreasonable and unpatriotic to demonize Zambians involved in this tender.
Mr Tayali also took a swipe Former Information Minister Chishimba Kambwili who he described as a very frustrated man failing to handle his dismissal from Govt in a manner that a mature politician ought to, and deliberately misleading the public, taking advantage of their naivety.
Below is the full statement
PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROCUREMENT OF 42 FIREFIGHTING TRUCKS AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF LUSAKA – NDOLA DUAL CARRIAGE WAY
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We are deeply concerned with perceived naivety in many of our citizens who seem to be easily cheated by unscrupulous politicians.
For a long time, we have been cheated into trusting or believing the very people that have brought us misery simply because they have changed their political affiliation. They ride on our miseries by promising us heaven which they failed to give us when they were in power.
We have the same politicians going in and out of Govt on different political ticket and we expect different results. They keep changing the language, depending on where they are, yet we believe them because of our naivety.
A good example is Chishimba Kambwili who was recently fired and expelled from PF. When Kambwili was in Govt he tormented, us as he defended everything and everyone in Govt to an extent of being tribal and disrespectful to anyone who opposed Govt. But today, Kambwili wants to ride on our naivety and miseries to get back into power.
As EEP we find it hypocritical that Chishimba Kambwili would call for the arrest of all the people in Govt when he was part and parcel of the same Govt for over 5 years. Most of the transactions that Kambwili is hypocritically criticizing were initiated and approved when he was in Govt.
If Kambwili was a principled man, as he wants to pretend to be, he would have resigned and told the nation about the corruption going on in PF. He did not have to wait until he was fired and expelled to stand with the poor Zambians.
We are not here to defend corruption, neither are we stopping anyone, including Kambwili, from speaking out against corruption, but we are warning citizens against immoral politicians who want manipulate them to get back into power.
One of the priorities of EEP when we come into power is to fight corruption, but with integrity, justice, fairness and patriotism, but, we will not go to bed with anyone wolves in sheep skins, in the name of fighting corruption.
In the meantime, as we are in opposition, we want to provide checks and balances to the PF govt, but we want to do this in reasonableness and objectivity. We will always stand for the truth without fear or favor. At the same time we will not allow our citizens to be taken advantage of by hypocritical politicians regardless of their political affiliation.
Having said that, we want to tell the nation, what we know about the two Govt tenders, involving the fire fighting trucks and Lusaka-Ndola dual carriage way. We urge citizens to put aside their political emotions and be reasonable and objective in looking at these two issues, as we have done.
WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE 42 FIRE FIGHTING FIRE TRUCKS?
This issue came to my attention whilst working at The Zambian Voice (ZV), as a report of corruption in the tender process in 2016, though the tender was floated in 2015. We were told that, Govt had award a contract to Grandview to supply fire fighting machines at an exorbitant price of USD$42 million.
Through ZV, we did a verification and confirmed the reports. Confidentially, we reported the matter to Anti-Corruption Commission ACC. The tender was halted by ACC pending investigations, but it was later cleared to have been correctly awarded to Grandview.
What came to light in that investigation was that, one of the former senior Ministers was behind one of the companies that bid for the tender and he wanted to be favored.
It was this former minister and his company that started leaking information to the public to incite them against Govt and that is how we also came to know about it. This former minister acted so shrewdly, that he is not on the list of shareholders on the company that bid, and they used proxies to leak information, therefore, our hands are tied to mention either the names of this former minister and the company, suffice to say, we know him.
Nonetheless, what we should put our mind on, is the price and justification of the firefighting trucks.
From our point of view, we find the price reasonable and justified according to our needs, though our economy is small for such an expense.
A simple search online on how much a firefighter truck costs, will easily reveal to anyone that, a basic entry is about USD$300,000 going up to more than one million dollars.
https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-a-firefighter-truck-cost,Timothy O. Casey, Firefighter/Alcoholic/Comedian/Author Answered Oct 15, 2014 • Upvoted by Dave Chapman, Professional Fire Fighter/Paramedic, 27 years experience
“The short answer is depends on the truck. The three most common fire trucks would be a pumper/engine truck, a ladder truck, and a wildland truck of some sort. Specialty trucks like a heavy rescue or hazmat truck would be common also. There are two costs with fire apparatus, the cost of the vehicle and the cost of the equipment that truck carries.
So a fire engine depending on class could be under $1,000,000, whereas a ladder truck could cost up to $300,000 and that is with both trucks unequipped. Adding equipment from basics like hoses to hydraulic extrication tools may add another $50,000 to $100,000. It all comes down to what the department ordering a new (not used) truck wants and what functions they want that piece of equipment to perform.”
Mike Chlanda, 29 years on FD as medic, firefighter and lieutenant. Now an firefighting author Answered Dec 15, 2015 • Upvoted by Dave Chapman, Professional Fire Fighter/Paramedic, 27 years experience
Wow, that’s almost like asking how much does a house cost. A basic engine (one that pumps the water, which is what most civilians think of as a “firetruck”), starts around $300,00 – $400, 000 USD and goes up from there depending on extras. A ladder truck starts around $700,00 and escalates from there. A crash truck used at airports can go from $750,000 to 1.5 million dollars. None of these prices include the equipment that goes on the rig – that can ad another 100,000 to $150,000 to the cost.
Some of the specifications on the order included:
1. Different forms of Fire fighting, such as gas, water, or chemical form
2. High tech pump
3. Type of truck which is fast, lean but able to carry a huge volume of water or other forms of fire fighting, self recovery in poor terrains, etc
4. Longer pipes and stronger pipes to navigate barriers.
Our estimations are that, the firefighting trucks could have costed the suppliers between USD$800,000 –USD$850,000 to supply which should have given them about USD$150,000 profit.
In all fairness and reasonability, a person who spend 800 – 850 thousand dollars to supply goods, deserves profit and 150 thousand dollars is in order. If that supplier is even Zambian, we say, thank God, because the money will be within Zambia other than foreigners who take the money away.
We, therefore, feel, the public is being unfair, unreasonable and unpatriotic to demonize Zambians involved in this tender. We should rather, be happy that the price is okay and the tender was given to Zambians. As a party, that is what we want, we want Zambians to be in-charge of this Country and take priority in awarding of Govt contracts at reasonable price and efficient delivery.
We urge the fire departments who have received the firefighting trucks to use them properly and efficiently, knowing the cost of these valuable assets.
LUSAKA – NDOLA DUAL CARRIAGE WAY
Coming to the road the Lusaka-Ndola road dual carriage we find those citizens, especially Mr. Kambwili, who was part of the Govt when this road was being discussed and promised to the people, as being unreasonable and counter-productive based on the fact that, they are being speculative on the cost of road and what it is coming with.
On the part of Kambwili, we find him to be very frustrated and failing to handle his dismissal from Govt in a manner that a mature politician ought to. Kambwili is deliberately misleading the public, taking advantage of their naivety.
Firstly, the road is not 321km, which is the distance between Ndola and Lusaka, but 812km because in includes 45km from Masangano turn off to Luanshya roundabout, Kabwe by pass of 20km and Kapiri Mposhi by pass of 20km all of which are dual, therefore it is multiplied by two.
If you literally divide 812 into 1.2 Billion you will find that the road is costing about USD$1.478 million per kilometer.
But since the road is coming with a bridge at Mulungushi University, Toll plazas, Transit Hotels, Service stations, Weigh bridge, Office space for RDA, among other infrastructure, you may take away an assumed 30% from the total cost which will give you USD$840,000,000.00 as the total cost.
If that total cost is divided by the total Kilometers we can estimate the road to cost at about USD$1 million for kilometer.
If you compare the cost of roads in the region and world over, one would find that most of the 2 lane highway roads cost over one Billion dollars http://blog.midwestind.com/cost-of-building-road/). Therefore, we should not cry foul over the cost of USD$1.2 Billion. Besides, that, this road is highly progressive, looking at so many deaths that have occurred on the same road. The road is also one of the most economic value in the Country.
It is also one of the best deals because the road is being constructed by China using their money, and it will pay itself through tolling over a period of 17 years.
While we are worried of Zambia’s debt stock, this is a commendable project which Zambians, irrespective of their political affiliations, should commend.
CONCLUSION
It is clear from our point of view that many citizens do not take time to interrogate information given to them, they tend to be naïve and thereby falling into the trap of unscrupulous people to exploit them not only politically but economically and emotionally.
This attitude is very dangerous on an individual level as well as at a national level.
Immoral politicians are taking advantage of electorates by singing all louder against corruption, yet they have enriched themselves by the same corruption, but since they have fallen out of favor of the power that be, they want to pretend to be fighting for the poor.
If these unscrupulous politicians care so much about the poor, how come they are so rich, while most of Zambians are poor?
We urge all Zambians to woke up and see politicians for who they are, by looking at what they have done in the past, especially if they were in Govt, otherwise they will keep on manipulating them.
Let us support what is good and condemn what is wrong regardless of where it is coming from, including the party in power albeit being in opposition.
Over and above, let us be patriotic and support each other as Zambians, we should not be quick to throw mud at our fellow Zambians regardless of their political affiliation or support. We get nothing in bringing others down, but we stand to gain if we promote or support other Zambians.
May God bless the Republic of Zambia
Chilufya Tayali
He’s looking for a job
Yamunyopola njala Tayali.
Tayali is a leaf in a hurrican
Fungo lajala.
The desparation and Naivity of this boy is shocking! To think he even wants to be president of zambia is even more shocking!
Copied: Ati those Firetrucks are actually Transformers….they can turn into anything. They can even fly…….kikikikikiki. On a serious note ba Tayali kuwayawayafye.
– On road I agree with Tayali, it is taimuz 2. Dual. I didn’t think of it, not even Mutati.
– On Fire Truck No NO NO Tayali boyi us we are here looking at them. Find fire market we can supply cheaper trucks.
-on Kambwili, I never respected him, ever since he insulted Jesus.
Very progressive checks & balances from Mr Tayali. How I wish opposition worked like this in ensuring GRZ is allowed to deliver social objectives to country for benefit of all knowing that it will be cheered if it is delivering & questioned when it is not. It can’t be 1 way traffic of insults, name calling & negativity from opposition. Negativity based on hate alone can’t be for benefit of country. The $1.2b dual carriage way is beautiful project in strategic location structured to more than pay for itself after 17 yrs. How can a Zambian agitate for it’s cancellation without facts? This is project that will outlive current politicians. Why are some of us Zambians so short termists & PHD practitioners. Some people fail to sleep if someone is doing good. God help us!
Like I said before, we Zambians are good at blabbering without facts. And when facts are presented, we don’t like it and instead TURN TO PERSONAL INSULTS, our favorite pastime.
I also blame GOVT for not being open and transparent when undertaking some of these projects. Please educate and inform the public what the heck you are doing. Simply assuming that putting out a tender is enough for the common citizen to appreciate what the h&ll their Govt is doing is simply NOT enough. $1.2 billion dollars is a lot of money, by any measure, without proper explanation of the project and costs involved. By the way, where is the Govt spokesperson to explain and give details on such issues instead of people like Tayali or Kambwili?
Well said Chilufya. The figures are legitimate
IN AS FAR AS OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING TAYALI IS LOOKING FOR A JOB FROM PF GOVERNMENT, I THINK TAYALI HAS OBJECTIVELY WITH DEPTH EXHAUSTED THE ISSUE. TAYALI HAS GONE FURTHER TO RESEARCH THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FIRE ENGINES AND THEIR COSTS. AS AN OPPOSITION HE HAS DISCUSSED THE MATTER WITH IMPARTIALITY EXHIBITING GREAT DEPTH OF POLITICAL MATURITY WHICH IS STILL LACKING IN MANY A POLITICIAN. HE HAS ALSO STRETCHED FURTHER TO THE ISSUE OF THE LUSAKA-NDOLA DUAL CARRIAGE WAY HIGHLIGHTING THE CONTRACT CONTENTS OF BYPASSES, 1 OR 2 BRIDGES, TOLL PLAZAS, TRANSIT HOTEL, SERVICE STATIONS, WEIGH BRIDGE, OFFICE FOR RDA, ETC. HE HAS REALLY GIVEN THE READERSHIP NEEDED INFORMATION TO APPRECIATE WHY THESE TWO CONTRACTS ARE VIABLE. HE HAS SIMPLY EFFECTIVELY PERFORMED THE WORK JOURNALISTS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO…
…HE HAS SIMPLY EFFECTIVELY PERFORMED THE WORK JOURNALISTS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO INFORM THE GENERAL PUBLIC OF MATTERS CONCERNING THEM. I ALMOST BELIEVED WHAT KAMBWILI SAID. THANKS TAYALI FOR CORRECTING ME. THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE GIVEN IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE. YOU ARE PRACTICING EXCELLENT OPPOSITION WITH IMPARTIALITY. KEEP IT UP.
Have no respect for this fella, this is one of the pygmy tribalist who were in the fore front supporting PF in the last campaign based on tribal lines. Upon not given a position, he got frustrated and formed this kama temba party…he is just a hopeless slippery snake worth not listening to…
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My humble take on this is that when emotions are compounded with the lack of upright sense of reasoning, people tend to spread hate with a view to excite revolutions. In Zambia today some people in certain quarters of society are heavily brainwashed with demented views a the most prosperous kinda fashion. If this case is prosecutable, why not formalize legal undertaking so that we the skeptical are convinced of purported corruption allegations? We don’t speak from without.
@Yambayamba, I agree with your observation. GRZ needs to up it’s level of communication to us tax payers & Zambians alike with details of not only how public funds are being spent but also details of very projects, how projects will benefit surrounding communities & country @ large. There many key projects going on such as airports, key roads, Lusaka smart city project, irrigation dams, e-governance, etc but GRZ or Ministry of Information is not explaining these things to the masses. Your colleagues in Rwanda have PR teams & You Tube videos for all key projects leaving no gaps for fake news & rumour mongers. God Bless Zambia
Chilufya Tayali you are a lost cause
THE STORY OF A FRUSTRATED POLITICIAN
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1994 Levy Patrick Mwanawasa blogally known as LPM demonstrated the way a corruption allergic politician is supposed to behave. He layed his post down for righteousness. Of course he had his own shortcomings. Come think of it, the appointment of CK to cabinet post 8/11 poll was chillingly delayed, the fall off time. Zambia should not again to have politicians like CK. If you had 10 of such people in Government, you would sweat and eat grass. CK was a strong defender of Government to a point of getting overdressed in extortive tribal rants Zambia has never witnessed before. He must be an ev!l blackmailer and a shameless intimidator. But like it is, every person would soon meet his down fall sooner than later, right?. God is…
Who is Jesus? Is he your uncle?
Foolish Coment. Tayali has clearly outlined what he knows about the two deals. Can you give us your stupid side of the story instead of uttering rubish here. we are fed of un progressive comments based on lies and rumours. Kambwili started by saying these fire trucks were bought in South Africa when infact they were manufactured in Spain. He then went on to say the person who supplied these trucks is Mr Ntinda who was with the President in Uganda, The truth is the Ntinda who gave a speach during the hand over of these trucks has no relationship what so ever with the man who was in that picture with the president and it is not the man who was with the president who supplied the trucks. Kambwili should be ashamed for telling lies openly like that.
Very stupid Chilufya Tayali, where the hell did you get those numbers? A profit of $150,000 is what percent? Ask experts in the motor industry what margins vehicle attract. Your Quoted $850,000 is over exaggerated. If you are looking for a Job, do it silently than exposing your dullness.
What patriotism when people are stealing public funds??
Tayali has clearly outlined what he knows about the two deals. Can you give us your stupid side of the story instead of uttering rubish here. we are fed of un progressive comments based on lies and rumours. Kambwili started by saying these fire trucks were bought in South Africa when infact they were manufactured in Spain. He then went on to say the person who supplied these trucks is Mr Ntinda who was with the President in Uganda, The truth is the Ntinda who gave a speach during the hand over of these trucks has no relationship what so ever with the man who was in that picture with the president and it is not the man who was with the president who supplied the trucks. Kambwili should be ashamed for telling lies openly like that.
The naive have spoken with the very first comment.
I knew there was a catch to the fires deliberately burn markets to pave way for corrupt purchase of the fire tender engines.
PF sent its cadres to go flat out and burn the markets so that it could create the case for the purchasing those fire tender engines.
This is reality hated by most PF minions.
PF is corrupt to the core. I have consistently said that the truth always out runs the lies.
In a matter of days weeks months and years to come the truth will come out when PF criminals involved in the procurement disagree on the shares of the loot.
Lungu and PF are a bunch of thieves.
Tayali is wasted and malnourished. he’s looking for sustained diet from pf.
Kikikiki……just look at the background of his office
C1kala nabamulaya incito kuli Lungu. “sebana wikute” at its best. You can’t even know where this boy stands. kubwata bwata fye.
there goes ba UPND, just yesterday you were Tayali supporters now that he goes against your only campaign slogan which u aimed to deliver until 2021 suddenly Tayali recieves threats and insults, hasn’t he not provided a website for confirmation so you know where he is basing his information than condemning things your babiesh minds have no idea of. PF after 2021 message approved
#HHLIES
Tansgender jo, it is the cost that is too much. If cost is not an issue why did we just not buy flying helicopter fire fighters ?
If the government can have $42m to spend on fire fighters, why not just buy 42 houses in the UK and rent them out and provide a steady stream of forex into the Zambian coffers for as long as it lasts. I say this because I live in the UK and this can be a very good investment.
@5 PF GOVERNMENT IS WAY BEYOND YOUR THINKING. THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED THROUGH EMBASSIES AND HIGH COMMISSIONS ACQUIRING MORTGAGES TO BUY OR CONSTRUCT NEW STRUCTURES FOR THE PURPOSE OF RENTING THEM OUT AND EVEN AS ACCOMMODATION FOR MISSION EMPLOYEES. HOWEVER, IT CAN NEVER BE OVER EMPHASISED HOW IMPORTANT FIRE FIGHTING EQUIPMENT IN DEVELOPING TOWNS AND CITIES ARE. THE PROBLEM WAS JUST ABOUT JUSTIFYING THE COST WHICH TAYALI HAS ALREADY DONE.
Mr.tayali, thanks you very much for your analysis but from my own understanding CK has a lot of information which all well meaning citizens should love and get interested to hear as he is well placed to all the happenings in the PF. Mr.tayali if you were wise l challenge you to sit with CK so that you can know more about the deals being talked to. There no smoke without fire. If the government feels that CK is lying let them take to court to answer his lies! And l also challenge CK to keep on informing the nation of the evils, thefts,deals committed by ministers.
In Zambia this is why we can not develop …because even reckless govt expenditure can be vigorously defended by even hungry people, they very people you are trying to defend you will bombard you with friendly fire….really laughable… I wonder what BUFFOON CK did to this boy.
What people dont relies is that these Fire trucks need to be connected to a fire hydrants which are absent or vandalised in our Cities so once that water in that onboard tank runs out you may as well watch the fire and drink tea.
Ì wonder why we are even waiting time debating this issue …let’s check when this Tender was issued and when the company was created – these are the selfsame companies that give reputable established Zambian companies a bad name …this is what corruption does people who are genuinely interested in providing a service are eliminated.
This boy wouldn’t know this!!
Jay Jay your comment that makes sense amongst the tripe littering this debate.
By the way Vincent Mwale BASSOP!! You will be done for abuse of office & corruption, once your P.F. paymasters are outta office for corruptly giving malnourished hungry Tayali ka 2 Pin to bwetuka bwetuka cr@p after his digestive enzymes got flowing with the chikafu your corrupt ka 2 pin induced.
CORRUPTION KILLS, & STIFLES NATIONS & DEVELOPMENT.
Pa zedi….1+2. =7
Excellent stuff from Mr Chilufya Tayali.he is 100% right.how i wish upnd’s HH was as wise as this young man because if he were,he could win many hearts.this is what we call REAL DATA!!ONLY LATE MICHAEL SATA WAS GIVING SUCH FACTS AND THATS WHY WE VOTED FOR HIM IN 2011.being in opposition does not mean you need to oppose everything done by those in power nomatter how good -NO!!how many Zambians have lost their lives between Lusaka and Ndola?A LOT.so should we continue losing lives because of a narrow road which is full of traffic jams?NO!!
ON KAMBWILI,MR CHILUFYA TAYALI IS VERY RIGHT BECAUSE KAMBWILI WAS THERE WHEN THOSE 42 FIRE ENGINES WERE BEING BOUGHT.HE COULD HAVE RESIGNED IF HE CARED FOR THE POOR.BUT CK DEFENDED EVERYTHING DONE BY PF!!CK SHOULD NOT THINK WE ARE DULL-NO!!ck,hh,gbm got…
God help us…with such leadership.
This one poit two billion is breakfast for Nigeria .when it comes to burgert there talk trillions. I used to think that Zambians are educated,But I have come to knew that there don’t reasech there rash for opinion,or whatever someone has said
There.is great ignorance even when people are educated.
Pa Zed pasanguka fye ubupupa bweka bweka. The bible says when the wicked are in power there shall be confusions and luck of blessings. Fili ukotuleya.
Yaba Tayali, needs to explain to us why Lungu’s relative was awarded the contract. A quick search reveals that firetrucks on average cost around $400 ,000- $500,000 and we paying one million dollars for not even the latest firetrucks. The whole deals stinks corruption and the road contract also. We need accountability as our children’s children will be the ones paying for all this borrowed money. How are we going to explain to them.
Tayali the point is the price my friend. $1million is alot of money my friendo. K10million for a velhice only in Zambia. The Presidential Jet which his excellence the President of The Republic of Zambia Edgar C lungu uses costs $700 000, while the Jet owned by Shepard Bushiri costs $750 000. The Jet owned by 50cents costs $1million. Eish this fire tenders are expensinve more than Ferrari F50, Lamborgin Maynach.
@Skipper, are you really being serious or you just want to be funny? A fire Tender is more in the category of EQUIPMENT than an ordinary vehicle. It is like calling an Army Tank a ‘vehicle’ and start comparing it to the cost of a Ferrari. How logically inept can you get?
Where are those so called equipment …why did they not list them or demonstrate them on a salvaged vehicle by opening it!!
Tayali nabanulishamo big time. Hipc at peak in his pocket.
Zambians! We should blame themselves for the socioeconomic/political problems our country is going through! We should stop blaming our leaders. The fault lies entirely with us the citizens. We are bad employers! Any company that employs people without proper screening interviews is bound to land itself into serious problems! That is exactly what we have been doing since independence. If a candidate tells you they don’t have a plan / vision for the company and you go ahead and employ them. Don’t blame them when they start stealing. It’s time to put in place a serious vetting process for all who aspire for different levels of public office. What we do is total madness!
Sad that the likes of Tayali sells out to spin for FP! I don’t buy into his figures; Let’s get Forensic Auditors to help out! Who says that the money stays in here over the Fire Trucks? These Guyz have one leg in Zambia and another one outside, save for the Commission paid out to the Zambian accomplices! Why should one Company monopolize winning all Plum Tenders in the Zambia and even beat the Manufacturers?
Hands off Hon Dr Chishimba Kambwili; The best thing that has so far happened to Zambia is the expulsion of CK from PF bcoz he has a trove of info. on grand scale of corruption in the PF Govt! It happened4 divine reasons-VIVA CK! Abash TAYALI!
Ka chi.kala ka Tayaliko chilufya wa lufya! Sometimes one wonders where such plain stupidity is induced by being on drugs or it’s a gift from god Chilufya is endowed with! Not even “looking for a job ati umusungu waku Chipata amtemwe” can dement a mind this horribly. Maybe it’s the monkeys and baboons they feast on in the North, it carries a slow gene that prevented our cousins from reaching homosapien stage of evolution.
Tiyali now you are hungry…….it is the cost that is the issue, you can buy fire fighting equipment that is a helicopter or plane , but can we afford them ??
We have students unable to pay school fees and malnourished children in Zambia and you go and spend 1 million on a fire truck when 1 which is half the price can do the same job ??
Court cases are gone no sympathisers to give him money anymore!!
Tayali is a typical work.of a brown envelope. How on earth should a company that has no experience be given such a big tender without corruption? The tender was given was in the same year the company was formed and when did they meet the supply threshold of such a tender? CURSE BE HE WHO STEALS FROM THE PEOPLE’S TAXPAYERS. MAY HE &COLLEAGUES NEVER ENJOY THE MONEY
Looking at the photo makes me wonder, is this guy already in prison?
Tayali is not my guy but he has done a good research job and justice to this issue. My heart can now rest. Ni Lungu chabe.
Just a few days ago Tayali was a hero for the opposition, but alas now that he’s expressed an opinion different from their wished path, he’s psychopath. As what he’s said I won’t comment until I finish my investigation.
Why does Tayali think he has to comment on everything? This EEP is a One Man band wagon drifting to no where. Tayali acts like a headless chicken. How can he justify the indefensible? Those fire fighters were quoted by the supplier at $330K and not $1million each. Clearly there is corruption involved in this stinking deal. The starving Tayali is looking for a brown case. With hindsight the UPND lawyers should not have helped this useless Tayali in the Kanganja Defamation Case. Tayali is a confused person and a scatter brain. His One Man Party is doomed.
Yes we’ve students who can’t pay school fees and the government buys fire engines. ……but really would you rather have fires go unabated because you don’t have equipment to fight them? Are we saying government is responsible for our fees from cradle to the grave. By the way do you know that there are systems in place to help the vulnerable people such as social cash transfer? These systems are abused by people trusted with the administration. …these employees belong to all political parties. Like FISP the system has been abused.
We need fire engines but not at that price….500,000 was a reasonable price.
then ok why did we just not buy helicopter fire engines costing 5 million each if our need is so great……helicopter fire engines would not need roads….
Tayali zona, this chap can do anything just to eat. Types like this sold Africa.
Is Tayali telling us all the opposition leaders are wrong about this huge expenditure on these projects?Is it really necessary for government to build 3 hotels on the Lusaka-Ndola highway??
Tayali has given information for you to do your own verification. Which opposition leader gave you such details to work with?
We sold Konkola mines for $25m and we bought fire engines for $42m, Tayali keep quiet!!
The President who sold KCM for 25M was useless but u keep on praising him for what?.
The guy has explained. UPND just want presidency. Whoever is one their side whether its dobo smoker PiLato his is their comrade, if its a white man looking for land in Zambia who gives them money and vehicles for campaign he is their comrade, if its a person like GBM who is powered by hate he is their comrade if Dr Kambwili went to them today they would welcome him. They do not take critism very well. If you notice they are slowly running out of things to say because the petition can’t be and HH can’t be president (will never be). HH accepted to be released but didn’t acknowledge the deal to his followers. Mandela got political power, all those you want to say went to prison for a cause got something. What did HH get? He wasted 120 days in jail hoping to show his masters that he is…
Instead of insulting Tayali, why not challenge him point by point. At least, though a confused individual, Tayali has taken time to give a breakdown. Upnds strategy is to alarm us on the huge amount spent but without giving us specifics.
Email scania marketing or Mercedes Benz marketing and you will get quotes for half that price……with the exception they say you don’t need heavy stainless steel tanks when composite plastic with 1/4 The weight with a lifespan of 25 years can do the job.
Since it’s disputing the price why don’t you email and come back to give us a breakdown .
I have , and for 500,000 per truck you get similar specs albite without a stainless steel tank….
Add,the tank and other fittings and subtract FOB
500,000 per truck would have been the cost, total $ 22 million including shipping.
Tayali for starters the whole thing is wrong! if the explanation is that they are custom made why is it that the fire tender ment for lwingu or mansa is exactly of the same specs as the one for lusaka let alone the price.
This whole thing smells corruption and the people involved must be shot 1 bullet just behind the ear.
These are the facts that must accompany such arguments for or against. I just wish the GRZ spokesperson can be this thorough in explaining some of these deals, information is power and when theres none, the void is filled with speculation and pure lies!
Tayali has just told us that his organisation reported this deal to ACC and later ACC cleared it. Can we have anyone saying otherwise present their findings please. Can we have someone go to ZPPA and find out what led to some cheaper bids losing out to Grandview? Bring real facts to the table not argue like a marketeer gossiping all day long for the sake of it.
No matter how you look at this , corruption or not, this was recklessness by the ministry in spending 1 million per truck.
At half that price you can get the job done, for staters why did you need stainless steel tanks when composite plastic tanks are a quarter wieight and price, saving on fuel , and they have a 25 year warranty….stainless steel tanks are usually for nostalgic or show purposes. That is before you even look at the bul.ll sh.it about fitting narrow roads or simple cameras….
What pettiness!
If you save the government 20 million anti what pettiness ? $22 million was a fair price….the saved 20 million could have gone to fund students education
Yes pettiness because there would have been 20 million less for you thieves to steal……
Ba Spaka bena bali ishiba fyonse!!! Why he chose to be a fringe citizen in a white man’s land buffles me…he could have sorted out all our economic problems…kwekwekwekwe….
Zambians citizen
I am not a fringe citizen where I am…..and you are right I could have sorted out most of your issues in Zambia.
@Spaka:…kwekekwekwekwkekwe….do you think the white man will ever see you as his equal????….it’s easier said than done, you have no idea about the needs of the multitudes here…..
I wish to add my voice to this debate, as Zambia we are easily drive to noise even when someone has no facts we tend to believe them and side with them. What we should learn to do is research, talk with facts not just making noise just to buy cheap votes or support. Fire Engines are expensive machines depending on the make and other fittings on the Truck. With this in mind I now add this extract from Queensland Times newspaper in 2013 to support Tayali `s info, such people with this kind of info or ability to write and explain to people, need to be my press aide if i were a President. I rest my case.
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Fire truck definitely $685,000 well spent
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TOP GEAR: Andrew Murphy and Steven Putland from Ripley Fire Station hold up the keys to the crew’s brand new…
There are also fire trucks going for $1.5 million each………there are also fire trucks for 500 k each that will do the same job.
Now can you also google the GDP of Australia or Queensland to complete your argument……
Why do you want us to be like Australia? You refugees are just lazy people who want to benefit from from other peoples sweat. Australia to be where it’s went through hardships with many lives lost due to disease and wars. Ba Katyetye mwenda mwalimwa you can’t stand the pressure. Just come back and stand for president. At least Tayali has formed a party and could make to plot 1
@Tayali. Your article on fire tenders is not technical and not factual.
Your support shud be based on actual manufacturers quotation, extra fittings+shipments+ reasonable profit margins.
Please compare Apples to apples and see the BIG difference in the unit price.
You have failed to get to the truth and shudnt write anyting to try and support thieves.
Is it the love if writing unresearched articles?
You are on your way to maturity, your analysis and insight is clearly manifested in this article. Advise other politicians to similarly keep emotions and selfishness out of public affairs in order to reasonably make informed and constructive comments on matters of this nature. You are at it , keep providing honest checks and balances. Way to save the nation!
Imwe, Zambia needs such infrastructure like yesterday and its really sad that most people travel round the world but dont learn a thing! Honestly, what is 1.2 Billion Dollars on a project as massive as this one and all the details in it given? When will we ever learn? Am amazed at how most Zambians cant be bold enough to support Government on real and economically viable projects like this one. Every day, you see Emirates flying between Lusaka and Dubai and what do you see when you land in Dubai? Personally I see serious minds and determined people in very harsh conditions. Just look at their road network, what can one compare it to? How do you attract foreign investments when you lack infrastructure? Is a wonder that Rwanda, which can from ashes not long ago is the apple of Africa?
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As you vent your frustrations on Government good work, please ask yourselves, are you doing justice to your children and the next generation? Zambia is behind in infrastructure development and we need to catch and very fast for that matter if the so called job creation can be realised. So, to those that criticize based on nothing, I simply say, too bad because times of popularism is long gone to get to power. The answer lies in being real and objective. Its like telling the youth of today not to own a mobile phone, oh God have mess, you will get zero votes. Be real, relevant and aspiring if you indeed ever dream of getting into power in this day and age. Let stop by saying its actually really embarrassing to call Lusaka a Capital City because it just doesnt qualify believe it or…
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Let stop by saying its actually really embarrassing to call Lusaka a Capital City because it just doesnt qualify believe it or leave it! Lusaka Mayor, where are you? Its time you started working otherwise you are already a failure because Lusaka needs total transformation at whatever cost. Then you will start seeing real money coming in this great country. In short, the Dual Carriage Road Project is a noble project which must be supported totally without fear or favor. Lusaka doesn’t even have International Standards of road signs! Its pathetic that even our so called walkways are so dry yet wet we have the largest water bodies in Africa! God, forgive the hypocrites like HH, GBM and Kambwili because they shall continue to perish in the abundance of plenty.
The fools in opposition want you and me to oppose anything that government does. To them government is an enemy needing no support.
What Tayali has done is what is supposed to be done by every patriotic opposition leader.
We are one people. Those in opposition today will be in government tomorrow.
Ba Chishimba Kambwili needs your forgiveness, he didn’t prepare for a dismissal, he was going to London every day, for breakfast. When he came back one-day he found a young lady occupying his office. It will take time for him to recover. So forget about Kambwili and move on
Zambia is indeed a failed state with such thinking. Zambians must learn from resilient and brave people of Kenya
Ba Tayali kuwayawaya fye. Nalimo mulefwaya fye ncito ku Boma. Mulekeni Kambwili alande. The truth is Zambia is so poor to buy a fire tender at $1 000 000 each as if Zambia has only 42 districts. $42 000 000 could have bought more of them to all the districts in Zambia.
Ujeni made millions of dollars selling companies when he stumbled on the opportunity, just imagine how much he can make dubiously if accorded another chance to preside over national affairs
Chilufya you are very corrupt. You are a hired gun just like the discredited Bell Porringers PR firm of UK. You are not an authority on these matters . Other than castigating Chishimba Kambwili, you have not addressed the issue of competitive bidding, the biggest flaw of the PF procurement . How much are they paying you scam bug????
Here is a piece of news from the UK on 20th July 2015;
“Firefighting in Crawley has been boosted by the introduction of a new state of the art fire engine into its fleet.
The high-tech P320-CP31 Scania, costing around £280,000, replaces an old Water Tender Ladder at Crawley Fire Station and is part of West Sussex Fire & Rescue Service’s on-going investment into upgrading its operational fleet”.
Are our 42 Scania trucks worth more? What model are they?
1 KM is now costing K15, 000, 000. What used to be Fifteen Billion. I find this interesting. We have moved away from what used to One Billion. And if you Multiply by two being dual, it comes to K30, 000, 000. What used to be Thirty Billion.
Can someone help me, who takes ownership of those service stations, and mentioned infrastructure along the road?
I like this guy Chilufya. When I read about this fire truck saga I went to google to check out a few facts. Please fellow Zambians verify facts before you comment on them and in today’s world you are not allowed to be ignorant because of google and all the platforms available that is why the definition of illiteracy has changed, it doesn’t anymore mean a person who can’t read but a person who can’t learn and cannot keep on re-learning. You think education is expensive, wait till you see how expensive stupidity is and how much it costs the world. Anyone who has enough sense today knows that when nations and corporations buy planes lets say from Boeing, lets say that they will get same models e.g. Boeing 777. You will find that they get them at different prices because of different…
Before we conclude that these fire trucks are over priced, check the models of the trucks, where are they were bought from, cost of shipping them to Zambia (Remember we are landlocked), check what addons have been put in them. The prices Chilufya has written about are true and fair. Same goes for the roads, we need to know everything involved in building them. Maybe government should set up a website where major projects especially infrastructure projects will be posted and explained and broken down in simple math for common man to check. Well done Chilufya, that is the kind of opposition we need, one that is true and objective to provide checks and balances and truth being spoken regardless of who it favours. when truth favours the nation it favours every citizen. Maybe we need to stop…
Maybe we need to stop using the term Opposition parties and call them something else because some people think that they have to oppose everything, I bet you if the ruling party said one plus is equal to two some opposition will say No, there must be more to it than that. Lets celebrate development and lets work together.