Religious Minister Godfridah Sumaili has regretted the protest action by Max Chongu by wearing a religious uniform
“This is totally unacceptable. I am already dealing with the highest leadership in SDA concerning the matter of insults. Max should remove this and apologize.”
She said she had engaged the Seventh Day Adventist(SDA) over an earlier incident where an unknown woman wearing Dorcas Mother’s Uniform uttering demeaning words against President Edgar Lungu.
She called on Maxwell to remove the offensive images and directed him to apologize to the Church.
And the PF media team issued the following statement
PRESS RELEASE
MAXWELL CHONGU’S BEHAVIOUR HAS NO BLESSINGS OF THE PF OR ANY OF ITS STRUCTURES
Lusaka, Zambia, 7th April 2018 – The ruling Patriotic Front wishes to distance itself and any of its structures from images circulating bearing Maxwell Chongu clad in a Seventh Day Adventist (SDA) Dorcas uniform while holding a bottle of beer.
The party finds the said images to be highly offensive. The images are highly inappropriate and unacceptable not only to the SDA church but the Christian Community and society in general.
Maxwell Chongu must take personal responsibility and make peace with the SDA church, Christians and society at large.
Patriotic Front has immense respect for the Church and in this case, the SDA where we also draw a good number of membership. We believe the Church occupies a place to be respected by all as it plays its prophetic role in the life of the nation.
Issued by:
Sunday Chanda
PF Media Director
Party Headquarters
Kupena uku nomba! I can believe this is happening in Zed.
While the action taken by max are welcome the utterances by that dorcas woman are equally regrettable. Sda knows that they’re already aligned to tongas who happen to be upnd’s supporters come out clean on that political statement made by one of there member. She insulted all beer drinking people in zambia and ended by saying ni forward forward. If sda will fail to discipline a known member over insults and taking political sides they should expect nothing from the pf as they will also distance themselves from max meanwhile the damage has already been done.
….meant not welcome. ..
MAXWELL JUST APOLOGISE TO THE SDA CHURCH BEFORE WE PRAY TO GOD ALMIGHTY AND “MENE…MENE TEKEL PARSIN WILL BE UPON YOU,MEANING THAT YOUR DAYS CAN BE NUMBERED.
THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINING OF WISDOM.
Church elder, pray to a mighty to end bu kuwe my Zambia. Praying, you, doesn’t work on things that matter. Ibomba pa fya bupuba.
Chongo is gay, I knew it. Always talked about wearing women’s clothes. Well done, you came out at last
PF like to talk about homosexuals, now that what homos do, wearing dresses at PF secretariat.
PF sent that lunatic Chongu to insult the church now they are pretending he was wrong without any disciplinary action. Ishamo litwala bakapepa webange nakufyakwa Lesa. Be careful Lesa tewakunwenapo chibuku iyo. Even if you did that on behalf of president Lungu who tolerates such thugery behavious, the people of God have forgiven you and are praying for your deliverance epali washama.
This is crazy, anyways not surprised with PF cadres. They can kill just to stay in power and steal. They have lost the Zambian Values. NOW CALL THIS STUPID COUNTRY WITH STUPID LEADERSHIP A CHRISTAIN NATION. with such Hatred to EVEN churches. God will make sure PF perishes is they do not discipline this clown.
He looks really stup1d. This is how fanatical PF can be. This fuul is patriotic to Lungu and not to Zambia and its freedoms. Hope his wife kicks this brainless cadre out. These are fuuls who kill over Lungu. They should try to find out where he was when PF undressed that girl near city offices, the killing of UNZA student, the throwing of stones in Mtendere.
Zambia has a lot of 1d1ots.
I believe this chap is sharon.
What’s wrong with this chsp. What has the church done to him?
Didn’t you here the insults that came from the Christian of sda church. While i blame max for his acts the church should be ashamed of preaching hatred. Remember hh was convicted of insults by the courts and he happens to be from the church. Does it mean sda promotes insults and hate language against those they dont support.
Oval D!ckhead, the SDA woman who was not speaking on behalf of the church just said ‘We do not want a chakolwa to rule us’ Where is the insult there and was she speaking as a church spokesperson? You and Max reason the same way.
The best way to kill an id1ot is to ignore him. Those women can insult Edgar but it doesn’t mean you should insult back. The fact that they are a church but choose to side with a politician and insult government is enough for their church’s credibility and is worse than what this headless Maxwell has done.
@Oval & Ndanje: While i don’t support both the behavior of the SDA woman (i call her that as she chose to comment in an SDA uniform!), in a democracy this is freedom of expression. Infact, the woman should be reprimanded strongly for her insults by the church. Max is more on the caricature side and should be ignored and treated as such but it borders on freedom of expression. The woman’s actions brings the SDA into bad light, and it will leave a deeper mark on society than Max’s whose actions will be eventually brushed aside. Gentlemen???
Here goes one uncircumcised Philistine! Anyway he is lucky we live during days of grace when we can pray for the circumcision of his heart!
Nene Mene Tekel Upharsin since you have not put a difference between holy things and unholy ones! Repent before God strikes you with madness. Otherwise this behavior is telling us someone’s days are numbered!
Kicks of a dying man
Lord have mercy on your people.
point of correction, iwe max that docas lady took a Tonga beer called seven day and not that cider. she was visibly drunk and was not smiling, she also looked tongish.
….kwekwekwekwekwekwe, wandi jaya webo…kwekwekwekwe….
This is window dressing. A decent political entity would expel such an uncouth thug. But the fact that they don’t, shows that he represents exactly the calibre of people in PF and am sure secretly they are having a laugh and patting him on the back. And why haven’t the rebuked Jean Kapata for her silly remarks as well?
What about the so called Christian who used hate bitterness and insults against the president what should the church do to her? Congratulate her for bringing the name of the church to shame?
Yes, you are right that the church should take action against erring members. The bible is very clear. I do hope that they will do the right thing.
My point, however, is that Chongu has a record. This isn’t the first time his thuggery has been on display. He is a disgrace. And yet we don’t see any action taken to discipline him. He is not a first time offender.
I am surprised your have not quoted a verse from King James Novel…
@Jay jay mate I have not come across that novel so kinda hard for me to quote it.
What Max has done doesn’t deserve any “action”. Sunday has done what needs to be done and has made the PFs stance clear. It is freedom of expresion. What we all should be worried about is the silence by the SDA over the behaviour of it’s member and what impact it will have on its relationship with society.
Expel him from what? Max holds no position in PF. Chiwamila Mbuzi kuluma galu not galu kuluma mbuzi.
And yet his boss calls prayers to unite us. . .ECL don’t mock God with your cadres, believe me he’ll reward you accordingly. Zambia a Christian nation!!!!! Lol
Christians who insults. I can forgive max because he is a known heathen not someone who proclaim to know God. Max was only wearing a blue dress and not insulting anyone while that woman was wearing a uniform and a bible in her bag and uttering insults agaist the president.
What insults did she Utter anyway we need to know?
Jesus is Lord, but Judas was one of his twelve disciples. Speak with knowledge, we all have a God given free will. This Maxwell Chongu is just delusional. His over aggressiveness should have shown you that he was gay. PF needs to expel him though or suspend him.
Only in Zambia shall you find a useless, money waisting ‘Religious Ministry’. I have said it before that Birds in the jungle leave their nests as early as 05.00 to fetch/look for food (insects) to feed the young. But here we’re; a pipo with the so-called 5 senses opting first, to PRAY to a mudzungu called Jesus first, the man who was murdered by his own kith’n kin and then afterwards, we go and look for food to feed our children? Awe please mwebantu, let’s change our mindset and resort to our cultures and traditions and then start to pray to our ancestral black Gods for guidance and indeed survival. Please CLOSE down that ministry of religious bull-s**it and make that Sumaili woman as minister of RUBBISH COLLECTION in Zambia, end of story.
I feel sorry for you Nkope, how can u sink so low in your thinking? May God have mercy on your soul.
This is gross misconduct of the worst order. But what can we expect, this is the caliber of bootlickers masquerading as stanch lungu supporters. Chanda if ever you are in doubt about what people think of you, bowman, this moron, kapata, mumbi, kaizer and amos there you have it. You people will go to great length to do even the most despicable, heinous and immoral conduct just to be relevant and put food on your table for a person who will not even be in state house forever. Its amazing how people can embarrass themselves and their families for peanuts for as long as the visionless visionary is looking. Play with HH but not God, you will soon come to reality with your action, this is no joke.
Meanwhile, Africa Confidential reports that nobody knows the extent of Zambia’s debt because individual Ministers have been borrowing on behalf of Zambia bypassing Ministry of Finance and Bank of Zambia. Chaos is in order.
Believe everything in media print at your own peril.
IFIPUBA NI BA PRIME TV NA KALANI MUCHIMA KA UPEND CARDER.HOW CAN YOU BRING SUCH USELESS ISSUES ON TV?THAT IS ALWAYS I SAY THERE IS SUB STANDARD JOURNALISM IN ZAMBIA
It’s just a DRESS for Pete’s sakes! No wonder we end up giving power to things that have no power. Symbolism in Zambia appears to be overrated. Also, please allow whoever wants to react, express themselves or demonstrate do so as it is protected in your very constitution. That baseless Ministry of Religious Affairs is a total waste of space. Most of what they have been doing anathema to consitutitonalism; you require to fundamentally change the constitution to allow that ministry to make sense…
…is anathema to constitutionalism. See – ridiculous stuff rile!
REAL ADVENTISTS DO ASSOCIATE WITH POLITICS BUT NOT WITH POLITICIANS. SDAs IN LUAPULA ARE ANTI HH AND UPND BECAUSE HH HOLDS POLITICAL MEETING AND CAMPAIGNS ON GODS HOLY DAY, SATURDAY/SABBATH.
WHEN THAT SISTER/WOMAN BELITTLED THE PRESIDENT, HOW DOES SHE HOPE TO SHEPHERD ECLs CADRES, FAMILY MEMBERS, TRIBESMEN, CLANSMEN ETC INTO SDA FLOCK?
@LUAPULA PREMIER, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE PART OF ASSOCIATION. INVOLVING OURSELVES DIRECTLY WITH POLITICIANS IS NOT OK. THE COMMENTS FROM THE LADY ARE REGRETTABLE AND I BELIEVE THE CHURCH DOES NOT SUPPORT HER CONDUCT. I WANT MAKE ONE POINT CLEAR, SDA CHURCH IN ALL THE REGIONS OF OUR COUNTRY REMAINS NON-PARTISAN. PLEASE LETS PREACH LOVE.
@ HH OVAL HEAD, I WISH TO REMIND YOU THAT EACH CHURCH HAS REPRESENTATION FROM ALL CORNERS OF THE COUNTRY. I ALSO BELIEVE NOT EVERY TONGA IS UPND AND NOT EVERY UPND SUPPORTER IS TONGA. AM NOT TONGA BUT I KNOW BEING TONGA DOES NOT MEAN ONE IS UPND. EVERYONE HAS A CHOICE TO SUPPORT A PARTY OF THEIR CHOOSING. IF YOUR FOCUS IS HATE, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WILL RECEIVE. LETS FOCUS ON TOGETHERNESS AND LOVE, NOT ALL THE UNPROFITABLE ARGUMENTS WE SEE EVERYDAY. YOU KEEP CALLING EACH OTHER NAMES OVER POLITICAL PARTIES THAT HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM OBJECTIVITY. I BELIEVE BOTH SIDES SHOW LITTLE CARE FOR THE COMMON ZAMBIAN MAN OUT THERE. THIS IS MY OPINION.
Can you as well offer your opinion on the utterances by that dorcas woman.
In the first place sda shouldn’t be anywhere close to politics. In the olden days people used to be disfellowshipped from this same church for taking partisan political stance. Nowadays its common even hh an elder is in the forefront hailing insults and hate speeches and the church is mute. Thats why i said sda ended with the death of matandiko. Only hypocrites are remaining. I cant imagine sda members who even attend political rallies on sabbath and embrace political figures to even stand on the pulpit to utter political speeches. This church is finished.
The PF and its Government’s reaction to private citizen’s comments on their governance and development agenda speaks volumes. The pettiness clearly indicates that the PF is panicking about the growing negative public opinion against their leadership. Before this Max, Jean Kapata a full Cabinet Minister held a press briefing where she threatened to even close down a media outlet for simply airing the poor old woman’s views. Therefore before Sumaili or indeed Sunday Chanda condemns this cadre max they should have equally reined on Jean Kapata who clearly inflamed the whole innocent comments of citizen. President Lungu should call for the expulsion of Max and suspension of Jean Kapata for insulting the entire faithful SDA church
If that private citizen as you call her was not wearing a respectable women uniform of a know church and was uttering such hateful words no one could’ve said anything. The problem is that she was clad in a church uniform while hailing those insults leaves me with no defence for her. She is not the only one who was interviewed that time. Because she was wearing a uniform and coming from a church meeting says alot about what type of Christian she is. And lastly as if the insults were not enough she goes on to chanting a upnd slogan and symbol ati forward forward. If you support her then it explains the level at which sda has now reached.
I think we are crossing the line now. This has potential of igniting genocide in Zambia. We, as in all of us Zambians need to change course and focus on the real issues that need improvement in our country. Things like education, health care, independent judiciary, even playing field, job creation especially youth empowerment etc.
WHY HATE A CHURCH LIKE THAT BA PF? JUST BECAUSE HH IS SDA YOU GO TO HATE EVERYONE IN CHURCH? SATA WAS ROMAN CATHOLIC BUT RUPIAH NEVER HATED IT FOR NOTHING. THIS SHOWS WE ARE IN TROUBLE WITH THIS LEADERSHIP.
@ Mary you are writing out of context. Or is it because of your love for HH. The discussion is about a PF cadre Max who wears a SDA dorcas uniform in protest against a SDA woman who is accused of insulting Edgar Lungu – Max ‘s master. So your connection of elder HH to SDA is unfounded.
PF HATE THE SDA CHURCH NATURALLY
SDA CHURCH IS A RELIGIOUS BODY. A COMMENT FROM ONE PERSON DOES NOT REPRESENT THE POSITION OF EVERY CHURCH MEMBER NOR THE CHURCH. SDA CHURCH IS A CHURCH WHERE WE CO-EXIST WITHOUT REGARD FOR POLITICAL ALIGNMENT. GODBLESS
…nix!!! She shouldn’t have worn that uniform….
Prime TV must be disciplined, dnt 4gt abt MUVI TV who do u thnk u are with yo propaganding?
IBA where are u ?
Absalom “max chongo” will die kumusambo.
Despicable act it reflects his masters
…and are you saying the remarks by that dorcas woman represents the church leadership …..
It’s difficult to adjudicate between 2 wrongs. The way Adventists come out against those that don’t agree with them you would wonder which god they worship. Most Adventists are fundamentalists, they are worse than Boko Haram. When some Adventists insult, GBM looks a novice. Dare criticize Ellen G. White and see what you’ll get. They describe the Pope in a very demeaning manner, so what can they teach Chongo? Most of them support what their member said, in fact they even have more.
WE RESPECT YOUR OPINION AND SHOWS WHO YOU ARE. YOU JUST HEARD PEOPLE TALK NEGATIVELY ABOUT SDA AND YOU TOOK THAT TO BE THE TRUTH WITHOUT PHYSICALLY FINDING OUT WHAT THE CHURCH BELIEVES IN.
Kalos2020 and your fellow upndeez zealots, what did you say when that SDA dorcas women insulted the President and other innocent and harmless citizens? You didnt say anything? Then shut your beaks!!!
This is the culture that h.h has brought upon us, tribalism, insults, intolerance, disrespect for others and for authority, damage to the nation, a culture of its either me or NOBODY else, and all negatives he can think of which he erroneously believes will make him president of Zambia and NOT the ballit, and if he cannot be president of Zambia then ALL Zambians must suffer for choosing Lungu. Never mind the chuundu section of Zambian society, they are part of h.hs struggle.
Presidents are insulted everyday. In fact she did not insult Lungu. Lungu insulted Lungu because he cannot deliver. He is corrupt. Someone just pronouncing it out is not an insult. That’s what happens in a democracy and free society. It is called free speech. If Lungu or PF does not want Lungu discussed or called names, let him deliver, not only to his family, but to the people of Zambia. Also ask yourselves, what led that lady to snap? Hate, Hunger, Perceived failures, or just Anger? All the above. She angry and hates the hunger taking place in Zambia because of corruption and failed policies or no policies at all. She was justified to snap. And a lot more Zambians need to do what she did. Zambians must protest everyday until these uneducated bunch of failures leave office.
Bingo, kalos!! If presidents can be insulted, the church and SDA are not God himself not to be criticised, not so??? What Max has done is freedom of expression, he is in protest of the actions of the dorcus woman and the silence of the church!! So to you, when you disagree or are not happy with your current situation, it is acceptable to insult people around you??? Are those the values you are teaching your children, if you even pray at all…
Actually no one cares what Max did. He just behaved like a bafuni that he is. We care and worry what PF is trying to do to the woman who spoke to the truth as many many other people are in the same bind. People are suffering under Lungu and the only thing they have is their voice. You cannot take that away. Zambia is failed state under PF. Hope you can see that. Living on debt. Borrowing to steal by Lungu and his boss RB.
Can you mention one, just one insult that God fearing lady used on Lungu. Please, anyone, mention the insult or purported insult hauled on Lungu.
@Kalos: “Zambia is failed state under PF.” Just that statement confirms to me the flawed understanding of political and economic matters of the world. You are an UNDER 5. I see no need to comment further…
No. It’s not failed but corrupt state. Does that feel better?
Upndeez and h.h, the lesson from Max Chongu’s unacceptable behaviiour is not his tribe, but that don’t do to others what you don’t want them to do to you, its biblical even in the SDA bible.
H.h is an elder in SDA, but look at his behaviour, his insults, his tribal hatred first against bembas and now against easterners. If h.h can behave like that what is wrong with Max Chongu?
Max your behaviour is unacceptable but if it shall teach h.h, upndeez and others thevalue of equity you have my support.
Mention the insults. Hope you are not talking about HH pointing at Lungu failures as insults. Calling on someone’s failures or criminal activities like buying fire trucks at. $1,000,000.00 for 1 is not an insult. Telling someone to stay home and attend to economic issues in the country is not an insult. Tell us the insults you heard from HH on Lungu. Here you have space, mention the insults or even one. Go for it.
DONT JUST USE THE TERM INSULT ANYHOW TO SHIELD YOURSELVES. THOSE ARE DEFENCE MECHANISMS OF PF TO PAINT OTHERS BLACK. USE APPROPPRIATE TERMS DESCRIBING THE REAL WORDS USED. ALL WE HEAR IS UPND INSULTS, HH ISULTS, SDA INSULTS, TONGAS INSULTS. WHAT INSULTS IMWE! IS IT BEING AGAINST WRONG THINGS IN PF AN INSULT?
max is right TONGAS are very stupid
YOU SEE SUMAILI WE TOLD YOU NOT TO CHASE ZODWA COZ SHE DOES NOT WEAR KNICKERS AT LEAST EVEN MAX HAS NO BAMBA INSIDE
Chongo I always knew you were gay. Nice coming out stunt now everyone knows about ypur buzness, lol
I think the the PF are Artistic, they come up with hilarious staff. Donchi Kubeba, Dununa reverse, sonta and now the Dorcas dress. The guy is just posing in a Dorcas dress with a beer in his hands has attracted a lot of attention as compared to all of HH dances rants and insults.
The way I look at this whole issue of the woman insulting and Max in a docas uniform is not even worth all these arguments. But let’s all look at it with sober minds. Let’s try to leave out both Lungu and hh out of this for a moment. These two were doing this in their own capacities, This shows you that this woman had harboured this insult in her heart for some time she just lacked an opportunity, but the word of God teaches not to harbour hate. But since she was a woman of God, God who sees what is in our hearts wanted to expose her that even if outside we see a uniform that’s not what is in her heart. Again Max reaction showed that he has been habouring this hate for this church for his own reasons, and God had to expose him. So this is showing us how a small match sick can burn…
I partially concur with you by stating that the two are not spokesperson of any organization they belong to. No one should condemn there organizations but the individuals who are in this act. If people are saying that the woman doesn’t represent the church similarly max doesn’t represent pfs views. Thats the best angle to view and analyse this issue.
@ Little D1ck Head
What are the Plunderers Federation views?
Chainama must be expecting this guy. When does Max go for mental evaluation? He needs help. Let’s wait what psychiatrists say about Max.
If he goes for mental evaluation, he will get Sunday Chanda job
After reading what that woman is said to have said. …I don’t know if true because of the unreliability of today’s press, I tend to support Mad Max, that’s if it’s true.
maybe the lady in question was doing a karaoke for pk chishala’s song umwaume walutuku nebo nshimufwaya. I hope this song is not banned to be played in public.
lamentations of a fed up woman,maybe she was referring to husband.
NEXT HH WILL WEAR RCZ WOMEN UNIFORM
HH does not drink. This behavior is a preserve of drunks like Max and his god Lungu. If you want to prove that, check how Lungu dances after a bottle. Or the way he eats unwashed mangoes on the streets and argue with sellers. That’s your Lungu.
@ SCARECROW
And you will wear used condom as the hat?
Kolos…those who don’t drink are the most dangerous…..a large number of those who wreck other people’s marriages are those who don’t drink. …as others are busy drinking the guy is busy proposing to every woman he meets.
Ba upnd don’t think we are fools , 98%of sda members are Tonga’s and they support upnd this is not the first time earing foolish statement from this blues max is long but again if u wait the video he’s making sense
Kalos2020 is a good imitation of h.h, almost the same 99.9%. The difference 0.1% is only because Kalos2020 did not block Eagle 1 nor did the authorities have time to waste locking up this twit in Mukobeko. Otherwise completely useless like his master.
Do you know how many people would want to be like HH? He is educated, sober and rich. He is success.
Now say it that I have said that’s wrong and why you think it’s wrong or untrue. PF cadres in Zambia are allergic to the truth. May be it is failure to think or lack of honesty in their leaders that affect their discourse.
As the saying goes, if you argue with him people may not notice the difference.
Argumentative cadre !mbecile is right. Do not argue with him. He has his pea-size brain bleached by his Endemically Corrupt Leader
COMMENTS COMING FROM SDA MEMBERS HERE …UUUUUMM OOOOPS KAYAAAAAAA !!!! FORGIVENESS MA FELLA !!!!
F*CK YOU AND YOUR SATANIC IDOLS
Zambia oooh Zambia if this is crime, does it mean pk chishala’s song umwaume walutuku nebo shimufwaya is now illegal?
God forgive us all…. Glory be to
His Holy Name. Amen