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Let Janet Rogan extend her clandestine PF meetings to all stakeholders-Mucheleka

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HH with Patrick Mucheleka at his New Kasama House
HH with Patrick Mucheleka at his New Kasama House

UPND deputy secretary general for politics Patrick Mucheleka says nothing will stop the motion of impeachment from being tabled in Parliament.

And Mucheleka has called on UN resident coordinator Janet Rogan to extend the same gesture she is giving to the PF in holding frequent meetings with them to his party the UPND as well.

Speaking when he featured on a Live Diamond TV’s COSTA programme last evening, Mucheleka said time for Zambians to hear how President Lungu abrogated the constitution is coming.

“Zambians should be given an opportunity to hear how Mr Lungu abrogated the constitution. And as UPND, we are very happy that our motion met the constitutional requirements for it to be tabled in the house and nothing will stop the motion from being tabled in Parliament,” said Mucheleka.

And when asked as to what motivated the opposition party to put in a motion of impeachment while calling for dialogue with the ruling party, the former Lubansenshi lawmaker said the move was aimed at bringing President Lungu to order for abrogating the constitution.

“Mr Lungu has a tendency of breaking the law and that is why we want to bring him to order…no one is above the law. Among the many grounds,we have moved that motion because Mr Lungu abrogated the constitution. The constitution is very clear that when a presidential petition is filed, a sitting President should step aside but that never happened,” he said.

“He refused to hand over the instruments of power to the Speaker. The reason the constitution provides for the sitting President to step aside when an election petition is filed is to avoid the petition from becoming an academic exercise.”

Meanwhile Mucheleka has disclosed that there is panic in the ruling party over the impeachment motion.

“They are panicking…they were saying they have numbers but the moment our MPs took that motion to Parliament, everyone in PF is issuing a statement. Time is coming; hold your fire. The motion of impeachment must be heard on the floor of the house for Zambians to hear how Mr Lungu abrogated the constitution,” he said.

“There are many PF MPs who are bitter with Mr Lungu; those who feel they have been sidelined. They are calling on us the UPND to help them and help Zambians.”

And Mucheleka further said President Lungu and his PF are not interested in the dialogue process.

“Mr Lungu and the PF are not interested in this dialogue process and that is why they are now insisting on engaging ZCID to spearhead the dialogue process instead of the Commonwealth who started the process…ZCID has no capacity to spearhead the dialogue and that is very clear in the eyes of all well-meaning Zambians,” he said.

He wondered where ZCID was when UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema and other opposition leaders were being arrested.

“Our position is very clear; no dialogue will take place with ZCID because it has no capacity to spearhead this dialogue which was initiated by the Commonwealth and the church through Archbishop Mpundu. ZCID has never been relevant; where was ZCID when President HH was arrested and charged with treason? Where was ZCID when opposition leaders like Chishimba Kambwili, Saviour Chishimba and Nevers Mumba were arrested? ZCID was loudly quiet and why this interest now?” wondered Mucheleka.

“Mr Lungu is aware of many issues we want to table during the dialogue process and that is why he is now bringing in his PF surrogates in ZCID to avoid the dialogue. He knows about police brutality, the misapplication of the Public Order Act and the reforming of ECZ which we want to see take place and these are the things he is avoiding.”

The interview however could not end without the UN resident coordinator Janet Rogan being put on the spotlight.

“Where was Janet Rogan when President HH was arrested? Where was she when people were brutally beaten by the police; when people’s rights where being taken away from them? Where was she when the nation needed to heal politically after that 2016 flawed election?” questioned Mucheleka.

“We are aware of her meetings with PF ministers; and we want to call on her to extend the same gesture she is giving to the PF in holding frequent meetings with them to the UPND as well, including other stakeholders if she is a fair player in Zambia.”

71 COMMENTS

  1. Please leave Janet alone. This is too much.
    Women are trouble, they can’t be themselves gossiping, getting involved in anything etc, like the Nampundwe woman. Leave them alone.

    • Rogan is a problem, she is too egocentric and feels really bad that Baroness Scotland took the initiative for the dialogue. Rogan is influenced by a Mr.Soko and Margaret Mwanakatwe…both PF stooges

    • I think some opposition are now losing it!! They seem to have stopped thinking through things before making a statement. Kindly distinguish between the Cuban envoy who made a mistake and the UN Envoy that is doing her work. What facts do you have regarding the meetings of PF and Janet? What was said that has made you so mad, please share the details with us, if you don’t have facts then that’s very shameful that you can get upset over something you don’t know, soon people will stop taking you seriously. On one hand You want to impeach the president, then You claim he is not Zambian even after running for two elections. You seem to really want to get to State House at all costs. If this is how Zambians will run our political affairs then we are in trouble. Remember; do not entangle…

    • Remember; do not entangle the UN for tomorrow you will need them. One wonders the kind of Government we would have if some opposition came to power.

    • Anyway whether there is favouritism, collusion or not a prudent course of action is to avoid calling the world’s number 1 NGO partisan especially by a would be incoming govt. I as a private citizen can climb a hill and echo Donald Trump’s sentiments in that the UN is full of fat and overpaid, overstayed lazy bureaucrats that jealously cling onto their jobs by the skin of their testicles but I’m an individual not as a government for better or worse as the Late Great MCS said is hoping to be “in waiting”. Just write an offical letter to the UN with facts to support your complaints and matter will be sorted.

    • Extremely misleading heading. Do you know the meaning of “clandestine”? Your verbatim quotation of Patrick Mucheleka shows that he uttered no such a word. How can meetings Janet Rogan holds with government ministers be clandestine when they take place in broad daylight and in front of the pressmen and their cameras? Political parties are not members of the UN as only state parties have this status. Generally, I do not expect Janet Rogan to hold regular meetings with the UPND or any other opposition party for that matter. But if someone has evidence that in these meetings with government ministers something that harms the interests of opposition parties is advanced, the whole world wants to see that evidence.

    • Great thinking & questioning.
      Anto-Nyoo Mwanza, now PF Media Deputy Director = FDD;
      Nathan Mulonga, now Chairperson ZCID = FDD; and
      NOOOOW, Edith (x4 Children frm x4 men) Nawakwi = FDD

      IS THIS A MERE COINCIDENCE???????

      ZCID is nothing but PF surrogates in Anto-Nyoo, Mulonga and Nawakwi

  2. YABAAAAAAAAAA SHAMELESS CHARACTERS……….MUCHELEKA BE CAREFUL ..YOU WILL BE POISONED WITH THAT GUYS BITTERNESS……!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Instead of complaining like small toddlers …just write to UN in New York with signatures of all those other stakeholders and raise an issue you will see how fast they will transfer her. UN take such issues seriously but UPND are like children no strategy.

    • The Party called Patriots for economic Progress (PeP) has written to United Nations to complain about the way Janet Rogan conducts her business in Zambia. The PeP president Mr Sean Enock Tembo raised interesting reasons why the UN resident coordinator should be recalled by UN Secretary General, Mr. Antonio Guterres.

  4. So Nevers has been granted bail…so that magistrate did a no show just to fix him so he sends the weekend in jail…That silly Magistrate will have his day soon!!

  5. Let Mucheleka start by Paying Back Donor money he misappropriated at Civil Society for Poverty Reduction. He used donor money to campaign in Lubansensi Constituency. Crooks

  6. Leave Janet Rogan out of your loss. You think we wake up in numbers to vote for nothing. Call for election lelo so that we can permanently take you were you belong – in the opposition and trash bin.

  7. Wonder shall never end. May if anything happens to that lady, both HH and his minions will be made to account. UN works with Governments and it is Governments that subscribe to the UN. Whether they are PF Ministers or not, for as long as they are holding Government positions then the UN will work with them. This guy is shallow minded and an empty tin

    • Kikiki they want the UN to be having meetings with them. The so called PF who meet with her are also government workers. Soon we shall hear Green Party, NAREP, FDD all saying Rogan should also take to us.

  8. These attacks on the UN envoy are really really childish. Not at all different from expelling the Cuban ambassador. It’s like we have two toddlers on opposite ends jostling for the prize of most spoilt. We need mature politics in the country if we are progress. These levels of paranoia are disturbing.

    • Maybe politics causes brain damage? It seems everyone who enters politics suddenly suffers from a massive loss of reasoning ability.

  9. DIDN’T HH TRY TO RUN TO THE UN TO TAKE ECL TO THE ICC. WHAT HAPPENED? NOW YOU ARE INSULTING THEM. THE SAME HH TOLD HIS WORSHIPERS THAT THE UN DID NOT RECOGNIZE ECL AS PRESIDENT. THE UPND CHARACTERS ALWAYS SING WHAT THE ALMIGHTY HH SAYS. THEY WILL SING IT UNTIL IT BECOMES A CHORUS.
    THE FORMULA TO GET TO STATE HOUSE IS ACTUALLY SIMPLE. YOU JUST HAVE TO IMPRESS THE VOTERS AND STATE HOUSE WILL BE YOURS. NOT ALL THESE SHAMELESS THINGS YOU ARE DOING. INSULTING A UN ENVOY, INSULTING THE CON-COURT, INSULTING THE SPEAKER, INSULTING THE VOTERS, INSULTING THE VOTERS FROM THE6.5/10 WHO USHERED ECL INTO STATE HOUSE. YOU ARE IN DEEP SOUP.

  10. If Gods wants ton punish you – he first makes you made – the case of the Mucheleka and HH. GBM is getting mature by the day

  11. It is unfair to expect the ruling political party to seek permission from the main opposition political party before meeting senior diplomats. This type thinking explains why the ruling party also displays signs of impatience or irritation in its dealings with opposition. It is better to return to the basics. The ruling party will govern the country, even when the opposition disagrees with certain policies contained in the manifesto.

    • You are purposely misquoting Mucheleka he did not say that ati ba Dr who cannot read, analyse and understand

    • “Mucheleka has called on UN resident coordinator Janet Rogan to extend the same gesture she is giving to the PF in holding frequent meetings with them to his party the UPND as well”. This statement is self-explanatory. First, it is undermining a senior diplomat’s credibility for selfish reasons. It is selfish to judge the actions of a senior diplomat because the aim of these meetings is to strengthen the good governance, the rule of law and national development as a tested basis for international peace and security. Second, it is wrong to accord a government status to an opposition political. When need arises, certainly senior diplomats will hold meetings also with opposition political parties.

  12. Someone in 2001 lost an election to Levy and continued to complain that the election was stolen from him. Because of bitterness, depression crept in and took him to the grave.

  13. Where was Patricia Scotland when upnd cadres beat, killed, speared, burnt houses and grain storages, displaced non tongas and broke the arm of FDD parliamentary candidate? upnd you are not in power for you be visited by every UN representative. After all the accusations you have labeled against Janet Rogan, I don’t think she would want to sit down and talk to people who are so arrogant. She must sue hh.

  14. Kaya mwe, just because h.h mentioned some nonsense even Mucheleka parrots even louder the same nonsense??
    So if Janet Rogan meets government officials over matters of sustainable development goals what exactly has incensed? They are not telling us. Is it because they think that there is no government in Zambia? Well even Patricia Scotland came to meet government and to deliver an official invitation to President Lungu to attend next Commonwealth meeting. Why doesnt h.h also hate Patricia Scotland? Patricia must be extremely disappointed with h.h on everything, soon you will hear from her, that h.h is taking her for granted.

    Kusila nzelu kwa upndeez. Now they even think easterners are Malawians, so if they come in power they will surrender to Malawi all territory to the east of Luangwa…

    • They forget that the population of Eastern province is basically the same as that of Southern, which means that they have to woo the Eastern vote otherwise it cancels out the southern block voting.

    • Indeed it explains his foolishness and lack of understanding. If such stupidity, they will remain in the opposition

  15. Vizende veka veka aba a h.h na a Mucheleka wao!

    Kusila nzelu kwa upndeez. Now they even think easterners are Malawians, so if they come in power they will surrender to Malawi all territory to the east of Luangwa river just because they cannot stand nsengas and other easterners?
    By the way has Mucheleka now adopted citizenship of southern province? He better because they will not accept him in his village.

  16. Mucheleka says, “THE PRESIDENT, REFUSED TO HAND OVER THE INSTRUMENTS OF POWER TO THE SPEAKER. He says the reason the constitution provides for the sitting President to step aside when an election petition is filed is to avoid the petition from becoming an academic exercise.”

    THE PRESIDENT COULD NOT STEP ASIDE BECAUSE THE ELECTIONS WERE ALREADY DECLARED AND BROADCAST THE WORLD OVER.

  17. Table your hopeless impeachment motions in the parliament if you must (even though you refuse to attend parliament seatings as and when it suits you). But… Please leave impeccable Janet Rogan out of petty Power squabbles.

  18. I wonder how much billions of dollars Mucheleka and his fellow “vizende” (I like the term kikikiki) have cost this nation’s time and energy since 2016? I wonder how much loss in GDP that is?
    Isn’t that a good reason to proscribe this so called opposition party for the good of everybody? Surely one of the limits to democratic freedom is respect for the economic well being of fellow citizens? In terms of destruction tell me the difference between upndeez and one of those destructive terrorists?

  19. This UN fimofimo needs to stay away from Zambian politics or get the hell out of our country. She can’t even cook ifisashi. Mxxxm.

  20. THESE UPND CHAPS ARE ROTTEN IN THEIR HEADS. MWABAFYE UBUBENSHI BWEKABWEKA. NO WONDER NO SANE PERSON FROM NORTHERN, EASTERN, LUAPULA,COPPERBELT, MUCHINGA AND LUSAKA PROVINCES CAN VOTE FOR THEM EXCEPT OF COURSE THEIR TRIBESMEN.

  21. Ba mucheleka, l realy dont understand u, state that no one is above the law..nd that prez ECL will hav his day on the foor in parliament.no wen Bwana HH was arrested to hav his day in court he cried to the worldover.if Prez ECL is not above the law so is HH nd the rest of the politicians.

  22. Mucheleka does not learn, ni chi zende.
    Didnt Professor Mvunga tell you during your so calked petition that there is nowhere in the world even in Patricia’s Commonwealth where a President vacates power on the mere lodging of a petition, the Concourt is guided by law and where there is something wrong, it looks at standard practice. The reason is that the Presidency is sancrosanct to any nation to allow h.h to wake up in bitterness without even a shred of evidence and expect the President to vacate? Hasnt h.h asked himself why the Commonwealth , UN and others recognuse the President even after his silly “petition”? Some things are not spoken or written Mr h.h and mr Mucheleka, grow up!!

  23. upnd cadres know nothing about their small god hh, he is a very secretive person . They are saying ECL is Malawian, do they know who hh’s father is.

  24. #27 Proudly Zambian, its yet another proof of tribal hatred first revealed by Ackson Sejani.
    H.h and Mucheleka are now so paranoid with hatred of easterners that they even think Janet Rogan is a nsenga from Petauke!

  25. You condemned Kabilas visit to State House when you as a commoner didn’t even know what was discussed. But you know what you numbskulls? DRC are going to hold their elections in December 2018 and Kabila is not standing. Ba upnd you’re not government and you’re just like anyone of us and government will brief you together with everyone of us. …not like you’re special.

  26. In Lusaka, you could not wear opposition regalia. once seen it, you could be very badly beaten, maimed actually and just now to discover that there is an ZCID which exists. ZCID has been a serious spectator to serious Police brutality, outright abuse of the Public Order act. Reality is that opposition is not allowed to assemble in this country, and this is what this moribund ZCID must have proactively handled. I remain PF but a very civilised one. This defunct, moribund and toothless ZCID must voluntarily wind up its operations. What achievement can they ever point at.

  27. The pipo of Eastern province are now Malawians in Zambia.
    We shall see in 2021 if you will campaign in Malawi(Eastern Province) asking the wise people to elect mwana wamuchigololo HH.

  28. Comment: it’s time we moved on people, I am now tired of hearing PF this, UPND that. why can’t the ruling party and the opposition party focus on Delivering what they promised the people who voted for them.

  29. 2 tribal grouping of bakoswe mumpoto. they always defend each other when it suits both of them

  30. The problem here is that HH wants to be treated as if he is the Republican President or his equal when in fact not. The sooner he accepts that there can only be one Republican President at a time (and that’s not him at this moment) the better.

  31. Now Mucheleka has written to Ms. Janet Rogan for them to meet her. As usual they have demanded to see her in 3 days. They want her to drop everything she is doing to accommodate them. No mention of their accusations to her. You have accused almost everyone of helping PF to win the last elections. I think you need to be taught a lesion. I urge Ms. Rogan to sue hh.If they can exhibit this kind of behavior when in opposition, it will be worse if ever they form government. RB was right when he said that hh is a badly brought up boy. He has no respect for anyone. Easterners and non Easterners will defend ECL just like you defend your small god hh.

  32. Most of you in here are just saying things like you are vomiting. If you are in Zambia and objective, you would know that the end of PF in govt is near whether you like Tongas or HH. Most of you posting especially from outside are diplomatic staff who are trying to save their jobs but don’t worry as there is time for everything.

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