Veteran Sports administrator Simataa Simataa has said that he was a schoolmate of President Edgar Lungu at Mukuba Secondary School in Kitwe and that People like People’s Party President Mike Mulongoti and New Labour Party President Fresher Siwale have no traceable history.
Reacting to assertions made by the duo on Prime TV that President Edgar Lungu is not the person he says he is and that he stole someone’s identity, Mr Simataa said that he met the president at Mukuba Secondary School in 1974 where the President was his senior and prefect.
“People like Mike are the ones with untraceable background, we don’t know their primary schools, their secondary school, they were not prefects or students at any college say Evelyn Hone or NIPA, they have acquired their degrees online in old age. Mike himself has no traceable history,” Mr Simataa said
The veteran sports administrator further said that the two later met as students at the University of Zambia.
Mr Simataa said: “His Excellency President Edgar Chagwa Lungu was a prefect and I mean our prefect at the time, he is a Chimwemwe Product, he was my senior and I want to state here that he was a very well known figure not because he was rich or poor, no, he was well known because he was exceptionally intelligent and among the few students that Mukuba produced that went to Unza with Six points.
“At Unza, he was my senior, he was exceptionally intelligent and brilliant. State Counsel Wynter Kabimba can testify to this,” Mr Simaata said.
Mr Simataa said: “This man is a very humble man and he is like that, he has been like that, he was among the few graduates from Unza who got straight enrolled from Ziale to the Banking World Barclays Bank under the legal department before that the President worked under legal Aid under the supervision of the current chief justice Ireen Mambililima. His history is traceable, we knew his Mother Amai Jere, she was a Marketeer. Those who are peddling lies unfortunately they don’t have any idea about the man. Not all Zambians can be born in UTH.”
There we have it. Ba Mulongoti ati shani? Meanwhile fools at Zambian observer (dot) com who preach freedom of speech/expression are busy moderating all comments. No wonder they are just a UPND Kantemba site going full throttle trying to peddle Mulongoti’s nonsense.
Who cares about his nonexistent school records? Bwana Mkubwa Lungu has no traceable vision its just borrow and spend.
I don’t know what is in there for Simataa or why he is reacting to a political statement.
Either way – this story is a sham. I’m traceable in zambia and have MBA,MSc,BSc, MA,FCCA,CIMA,and now PhD
I have remain humble and content.
These nonentities who are enjoying this back and forth story on this topic are clearly not fit to wear my knickers.
I’m getting fed up of it !
Thanks
BB2014,2016
No news here..next…..LT please give us real news we all know Lungu is Zambian stop entertaining attention seekers
Chimwemwe……
That explains it right there.
Nolanda sana
I mentioned a while back that the issue of parentage is very, very sensitive. These two Mulongoti and Siwale will find themselves being disgraced, they will also find those who are funding their campaign disgraced.
Mulongoti claims to be a lawyer- if you look at his Parliamentary record it indicates grade 12 certificate and MBA as his education qualifications- an MBA can very easily be obtained online so what nonsense is this so called lawyer saying? Siwale is just another quack with outlandish claims that make him look really silly, Msoni in the same boat- all are just frustrated chaps. Now on the same issue of parentage – a certain main opposition leader has failed to refute claims that he was fathered by his uncle- now tell me if this was to become a subject of debate where would we…
Ctn…where would we be as a nation? Instead of discussing real issues to do with the suffering of our people. Our people deserve better than dirty petty politics. Checks and balances is what is needed- Mulongoti has an MBA with no diploma or Bachelor’s degree? Just a G12 cert, then jumps to get an MBA what kind institution awarded him this qualification? Well renown Universities only give MBAs if you have either a diploma or a first degree- and that is a fact or are an exceptional case- I don’t this daft chap Mulongoti is an exceptionally intelligent chap- he just used money and ordered his MBA online!
Mulongoti, Siwale and cortetie ala mukose, you will neither succeed nor take a free ride in your salacious errand. Chagwa is 100% Zambian patriot and authentic citizen with indellible traces in service, society and family. I have known Chagwa for decades will soon dedunk these bitter sore losers turned to merchants of national hatred.
The questionable route is his primary and where he was born. No one doubted his secondary school and Unza. He is from Malawi. Simataa hasn’t said anything new.
He is Malawian unless he proves otherwise.
Simaata was 10 years in 1974 and he claims he was at Mukuba secondary school. So he was 3 years old in grade 1.
Either he’s a genius or he’s a FAT liar, a cheat. No wonder his wife is divorcing him due to cheating. NJala ilibe size bane.
Anyway attending school & UNZA does not one a Zambian. I was in school & UNZA with Angolans, Malawians, congolese, south africans, namibians & zimbabweans. Most of them have since returned to their countries. Lungu needs to produce birth cert, NRC & real relatives.
Lesson here is that in 15 years time, it will be inexcusable for any politician not to have a birth affidavit & certificate. Citizenship by oral history and show of hands acclamation is a sham. But it’s vexing many times babies born even in Chilufya’s health facilities are not issued birth affidavits and parents/ guardians of the few have not proceeded to use them to obtain birth certificates.
Ensure your children, nieces and nephews get birth affidavits coz birth certificates can still be obtained by acclamation. It’s the currency of identity for the future. Having your classmates testify for your citizenship will not be acceptable very soon.
@Mushota has no traceable feelings, acts like a lazy chicken….LOL
Why do you all start his life at Mukuba secondary? This man is man was born in Malawi. He changed his name to get a Zambian NRC. He his a fraud who needs to be arrested.
Maloza – There is an angle to Simataa’s argument. Mulongoti claims ECL stole someone’s identity. So, if we follow Simataa, when did this occur and can Mulongoti dispute Simataa?
@maloza Simataa went to Mukuba Secondary School in January 1974 And we found Edgar there in his leaving yer (Form 5). We then went to Unza the following September 1979 and still found him there!
Why is Lazy Lungu taking forever to respond?
@MB, the question is how could Simaata have been in Grade 8 at 10 years old or in grade 1 at 3 years old?
Your response should have been that, no actually Simaata was born before 1964.
@abilima, that question should be addressed to Lungu a.k.a. Mutaware & Mulongoti. When Obama was accused of being born in Kenya, he produced an american birth cert.
If Lungu continues to ignore this accusation, many pipo who doubt it will start believing, just like many believe HH stole money from privatization even though its not true.
Any leader whether political religious or secular needs to inspire faith, hope and love and the greatest of these is love (1Cor 13:13). This love is patient, kind, not jealous, conceited or proud (1Cor 13:4). These are the things we need to watch out for us Zambians in our leadership. There is no force more powerful than love. Humility is part of it & a gift from God through the Holy Spirit. God has His own way of speaking for the humble. Immediately these qualities fade, however, God also fades from the individual. A warning to both the humble & the accuser. God Bless Zambia
Ba Simataa, naimwe you are begging incito ? Infiniti fyashupa. Anyway no semana wikute
Yamulikita njala!!
Lungu’s plan to remove details linked to tribe on NRC & roll out new NRCs is very suspicious especially at this time.
His plan was to get a new NRC for himself with suitable details. Maybe there is J. Mutaware on the NRC, Tribe: Yao, District: Muzuzu.
Abanenu Bali busy developing their nations imwe mwikalifye ukulanda ifishili necessary. Kaunda is not Zambian, FTJ is not Zambian, Lupiya is not Zambian Lungu is not Zambian ninshi mwebena Zambia muli fipuba? How come non Zambians are always ruling you? Because insala yamikata you start ukusabaila, Lungu is not zambian. Politicians like Ba mulongoti and other must know better. So what if Lungu is not Zambian? Trump tried to prove that Obama was not born in the US but he failed about imwe ba Mike you think you can prove it? Please be reasonable and provide check and balances on the government not ifyo ifyabula amano. Kk is still in Zambia, FTJ never left Zambia his remains are in Lusaka, RB is still in Lusaka
@Maloza I don’t know where you are coming from with your statement “…….. Grade 8 at 10 years old or in grade 1 at 3 years old? As a matter of clarity Simataa was like me 17 years old when we completed form five O levels. Or at your level he was born in 1961. Mulongoti is fullish to suggest workers or staff will still be there after 40 years since we were at Mukuba. For your information William Nyirenda former Kitwe Mayor and now practicing lawyer was in the same class with Edgar at Mukuba when we arrived there.
Mulongoti chipuba. Why even acknowledge his lunatic rants!
SURE,SURE, for the 4 years we’ve known Lungu or Mutaware or whatever his real name is, there’s been no wedding, matebeto, funeral, birthday, anniversary, graduation of any family member?
Any real Zambian can attest that when you phone rings at an awkward time of the night you even fear answering it as it may be bad news of a bereavement.
Lungu has alot of explaining to do & evidence to produce, otherwise this year won’t finish for him.
It’s sad reading going through the same story every day when we all know the President is Zambian.
Such situations just dent our image abroad and even if the whole is just a travesty, weak minds may make believe with weaker ones.
The point of it is that these opponents can’t match ECL’s IQ, they can’t match his anticipated achievements by 2021 and they since lost twice to him.
They are likely going to lose again should the ConCourt rule in his favor so, they make up stories … sole losers they are.
Let’s roll … we have only one president at any given time and that man is ECL and he has my full support until the next one comes along.
Learn to respect people’s choices if you want to be respected when you take over … Karma, ladies and gentlemen.
ECL IN 2021
hh haluza hagain in 2021
There are lots among Zambians who in their early years of school, primary through secondary, shared classes with aliens who for fact only knew them as classmates and were not privy of exact place of birth. Off school premises some still interacted as playmates visiting each others’ homes thus getting to know or be known by parents, neighbors and even the community! Here a debate is raging over someone who has chosen to remain mute on the issue he should take interest to put to rest while many are falling over themselves for what can appropriately be termed as self serving interest coming to his defense providing snippets of information which does not really address the basic question! What does it take for one to prove that they are Zambian? I for one can prove being Zambian by place of…
LT we need to track Mushota. Very funny piece of Human. Sometimes just make bloggers laugh. All those qualifications. We need to Honor MUSHOTA.
BB2014,2016 and we will Add 2018..
Simataa simataa needs a job please give him a job president
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Do you know God? If yes how do you know him?
Read some few note bellow!
God created everything Genesis 1:1, and it was perfect (good)! Genesis 1:31. Then people sinned against God Genesis 3. After some years one man by the name of Abraham became Gods friend according to James 2:23 and God blessed him, his children and all his offspring’s who were told to do Gods will. Because to God if our Parents or ancestors sin then we are also sinners and we deserve punishment Exodus 20:5.
So since our fathers sinned and we have all sinned (obviously we have done something wrong before). God is annoyed and we deserve to be punished and the punishment is of death. Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” but still God loves people (us) instead of killing us all he said let someone pay for them who was his son. Who was and still is righteous so that he exchange his righteousness for the sins of the world (us) as John 3:16 state “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
So now we have a role to play according to John that is to believe in the righteous son of God as the redeemer of our sins then we will escape the wrath of God. That is the only way!
After we believe one day Jesus will come back and take those who believe to a place which will be perfect as that of the beginning John 14:3- so before he comes we need to read is word (the Bible) and learn how he wants us to live while waiting.
Do you believe Jesus Now? If so pray as follows.. “Dear God, I believe in your son that he died for my sins and all my inherited sins and I accept him as my savior. Amen”
If you prayed that prayer please find a bible believing church and learn more about this Jesus. You can also contact me!
Amen, Gov!!
Amen
Ba Simataa, ni sebana Simute mwandi go for it2
Whether hus Zambian or not,all what the Zambian people want is development..People want better health services,better schools,lower taxes etc.Not a thieving govt.
Mushota, you are now losing factor credibility. Some things you better keep quiet if your comments here has to be useful. Otherwise you will be a disqrace and not every man is interested in your knickers. Some of us are interested in the brains and women empowerement, gender isdues.
Mushota is here mama give us a signal how to deal with her
…this about puts this brainless debate to rest…
Nkani yachinja. Now that people who know him are coming out, and they will come out, people now say they dont care if he is zambia or not, they say they want food on their tables. Lelo lelo. There was a hype about foreigner foreigner
Mr. Mulogonti and his “brother in lies” Mr. Siwale should be taken to task by their parties for peddling lies.
LUNGU WAS CHALLENGED TO PRODUCE HIS NRC AND HAS NOT YET DONE IT. WHY? YOU MAY WISH TO KNOW THAT HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SECRETIVE. EVEN HIS FIRST WIFE AND HER RELATIVES NEVER SAW LUNGU’S RELATIVE. HE JUST CLAIMED TO THEM THAT HE WAS FROM EASTERN PROVINCE. LUNGU IS FROM MALAWI. MULONGOTI AND SIWALE ARE ON FIRM GROUND AND THEY ARE BEING PATRIOTIC. OUR SECURITY WINGS ARE A BIG LET-DOWN. THEY HAVE GONE TO SLEEP. ZAMBIA IS NAKED AND INSECURE.
No NRC? How did he get employed by ZCCM Mulungushi Investments? How did he stand as MP (twice. ..Upnd and PF ) for Chawama and eventually twice as MP? All these require one to present their NRC. Sometimes it’s better to keep quiet if you have nothing sensible to say. Edgar will not waste to answer to nonsense. He’s president while Mulongoti is not, will not be and has never won an election. …he was appointed as Minister and Chairman of elections because of patronage. His first mission was to get rid of all those MMD members who worked with FTJ. I challenged him on Radio Phoenix let the people talk on this. He failed to make sense. He destroyed George Mpombo’s career politically.
The debate is being spearheaded by disgruntled elements who have ill motives. HE Lungu is a Zambian. Pliz stop wasting our time on a non existent issue.
THEY ARE PATRIOTIC UNLIKE YOU. THE BALL IS LUNGU’S COURT TO PROVE TO THE NATION THAT INDEED HE IS A ZAMBIAN. IF YOU DON’T LOVE ZAMBIA WE DO AND WE READY TO DEFEND HER. UNFORTUNATELY OUR SECURITY WINGS ARE TO BE DEAD. ZAMBIA IS NAKED AND INSECURE.
USELESS MULONGOTI JUST IS A BRAINLESS ATTENTION SEEKER …ECL SHOULD SHOULD AT ALL COST AVOID RESPONDING TO MOSQUITO MULONGOTI IN WHICHEVER WAY NECESSARY.
MULONGOTI AND COMPANY ARE HYENAS ……..
THEY ARE PATRIOTIC. ZAMBIA FOR ZAMBIANS. WHY DO WE HAVE LAWS ON NATIONALITY? WHY DO WE DEPORT CONGOLESE, SOMALIANS AND OTHER FOREIGN NATIONALS TO THEIR RESPECTIVE COUNTRIES? WHAT IS SO SPECIAL ABOUT LUNGU? LET HIM JUST PROVE THAT INDEED HE IS GENUINE ZAMBIAN. WHY HAS HE FAILED TO PRODUCE HIS NRC? IF HE HAS BROKEN THE LAW, THEN HE WILL BE PROSECUTED LIKE ANY ONE WHO HAS BROKEN THE LAW.
Which primary school did the president go too ? Simataa is talking about secondary school Lol
Mike ‘the Parentage’ Mulongoti…. if this is what you call ‘faka pressure’ then chishimba ‘lesa nensele’ kambwili is far much better than you politically. in short you are an under five
am not a politician but I can confirm that I went to the same primary school with ECL- Ishuko Primary School (formerly Chimwemwe B) in Kitwe. These politicians waste so much time on issues they have no facts about. I get amazed at their lack of facts before going to the public- its a disgrace!
Mulongoti got his law degree at unza after he left Parliament so the at parliament can only change if he decides to go back to Parliament
Aka kamudala kana chikonko cho pusa. Just where does he get fake stories and manage to parade himself as having information. I wish I were Lungu I could pick this ka fake politician antenna by his bolls – kaleza!!!
Thanks ba Simataa Simataa.
He is a disaster to himself.
Pathetic loser antenna !!!!
You can not take him to court least the whole information is revealed why keep quiet if you are sure of your self you are being accused on such a serious issue and you decide to keep quiet i would not i will put the matter to bed so fast .
All Mulongoti has put across is a funso(querry). Why crucify Mulongoti for querrying?. But again to say I was at the same school and university with Edgar Lungu does not answer anything. Attention seekers must keep out as Mulongoti has just taken the issue to the public protector. Let me also help the dull ones here who are failing to understand simple logic. Mulongoti is not blaming ECL to be a foreigner, Mulongoti has just put a querry before us. So what is difficult pamene apa
Mundashi: Simataa knows ECL personally and has a right to say what he has said in defence of him but he has no right to describe Mulungoti in the terms he has described him. He has not asked Mulongoti to give him his history and he has failed to provide it. And that is the problem with
11.1: This is a mistake. Something strange happened as I was clicking the keys and the post is even incomplete. Apologies to Simataa as he is no sender of this message. Anyhow, to complete it I wish to say: And that is the problem with Simataa. He doesn’t know how to differ with people politely.
Simataa didn’t have to make this statement because it does not address the key issue raised in Mulongoti’s concern. The origins of ECL is the question and Simataa tells us about life post primary school level. What relevance is this to the case? I am ECL’s age-mate & those days we went to school with Zimbabweans, Angolans, West Africans, South Africans, Tswanas, etc. We didn’t even know some of them to be different nationalities until when they trekked back to their countries after their independence. Being at school with anybody those days cannot guarantee that you knew their nationality.
Ba Simataa, why have u changed the lane, come keep left otherwise u will crush! u have caused enough problems at city of lusaka fc, jst last week u were going to be ripped apart by those fans, u have even recovered fully from that drama, u want to start a bigger thing! why are u owez seeking attention from the public, for mulongoti who doesn’t know he comes from mpongwe even his siblings are there, can u say the same abt the man u are defending! i mean i hard alot of classmates who were not Zambians! Edgar Lungu is a Zambian. It was common those days to have ur surname changed when obtaining nrc to the one who is helping u obtain it! it could be possible that he was left with a Zambian family that took care of him and also helped him with nrc, nothing wrong he is still zambian.
Nga wakonkakonka bwino mune, Mulongoti nao wa ku Malawi (if you follow carefully my friend, Mulongoti is also from Malawi). Let’s stop this childish crap typical of losers. Joseph of the Bible did wonders in Egypt, We should consider ourselves blessed if we get a person who advances the interest of Zambia. Our question must focus on whether one is adding value or not!!!
The period referenced by Simataa is one characterized by refugees getting established in Zambia. For instance, at Mukuba Secondary School during Simataa’s time, there were teachers such as Mukolongo, Hlabangana, Juma, Kaonga, Chunda, etc. Chunda naturalized later through marriage. Also, there were students such as Mushani, Mashambanaka, Mumba, etc who had to return to their homelands because they or their parents held pink cards. Almost all of them were allowed to go to school on government ticket but at some point they were not allowed to continue. If ECL stole somebody’s identity, it must have been at that time. Unless a student was someone you knew closely, like I knew the names I have dropped, there was no way of knowing whether they were Zambians or not. It follows then that…
Does Mulongoti rantings add value to development? Mulongoti should make a life. He is a bitter man. Leave ECL alone. You had your time and failed. Has Mulongoti become the jury and the judge. Move over Mulongoti we want to move. Time-waster.
So if he is Malawian, what can Zambians do. Because we do not have an alternative President. Look at HH, he is not Presidential Material Look at Mulongoti he is far from it. Look at Kambwili, what can he do. So let the foreigner leader us or we remain presidentless. kkkkkkkkkk
Have you met Mike Mulongoti recently?the ka nigga is damn broke and looks like a charcoal burner.i always meet him at Northmead.you can cry!!Mulongoti is being used by HH.but who in Zambia knows HH’s father,brother,sister,etc?nobody.
ECL is pure Zambian!!moreover,we dont really care whether ECL is Zambian or not because what we want is a president who can develop mother Zambia!!!SO IF ECL DELIVERS DEVELOPMENT ACROSS ZAMBIA,EVEN IN 2021,WE WILL VOTE FOR HIM-PERIOD!!Mulongoti can hung with his evil sponsors in tonga party upnd!!
Yes i have and I think the one you saw is likely not Mulongoti because the Mulongoti i saw last week was driving a VX Toyota Landcruiser. Don’t get me wrong, i don’t support him nor his stance on His Excellence President Edgar Chagwa Lungu but i feel duty bound to defend his person because you asked a question.
Pay no mind to that Congolese njimbu who thinks dressing is a sign of leadership…..
I was wondering when Simaata was going to come out. A friend who was with the guys at Mukuba confirmed it. At the height of the 2015 elections the ZWD claimed that Lungu was a bad person because he had neglected his aunt in Petauke so you wonder why all the fuss is about.
From a street point of misplaced wisdom Mulongoti may have a point on the lack of information on President Lungu’s primary school history, his place of birth and parentage. May I remind Mr. Mulongoti of the following if he is not old enough to realize: In the 1950s during the Federation of Nyasaland, Southern and Northern Rhodesia there was a lot of migration among the people of the mentioned regions. At Zambia’s independence in 1964 some of the people who came from other regions were integrated as Zambians while other later went back to their countries. The problems was with their children who were born in Zambia. The requirements for obtaining a NRC was that the person representing you must be a Zambian and the surnames must be the same. Foreign born parents with children born in…
Which school did ECL attend for his Sub A? That would be a better lead than Secondary School.
Mr. Simataa please shut up .why are lozis always used to fight battles for others.Look at yourself sir and mr spuki mulemwa you have become spokes persons for things that do not affect you.Does being at school anwer what is being asked .what you shud explain is the context .
Mulongoti, ignore these chaps. You have a democratic right to question. Infact continue asking, you have not killed a person.
…born in Zambia opted to find colleagues with the same surnames to represent their children as parents, a situation leading to one having what would appear like two parents (stand-in & biological). Those with uncommon names ended up adopting surnames of the stand-in parents. Mr. Mulongoti rethink about your allegations of identity theft and duo parentage. Present Obama was born in America, and is American and yet his father was Kenyan. May be your research, if any, should be to establish where President Lungu was born, if that would serve your purpose?
…born in Zambia opted to find colleagues with the same surnames to represent their children as parents, a situation leading to one having what would appear like two parents (stand-in & biological). Those with uncommon names ended up adopting surnames of the stand-in parents. Mr. Mulongoti rethink about your allegations of identity theft and duo parentage. President Obama was born in America, and is American and yet his father was Kenyan. May be your research, if any, should be to establish where President Lungu was born, if that would serve your purpose or change the nature of your debate?
I thought Simata went to UNZANDO and ECL to UNZA. Just thinking….
Simaata was at Unza and was part of the football team at the campus.
Simataa played soccer? Boy was too burly to run! I was with that chap at Mukuba.
COMPARE AND CONTRAST
Mulongoti and KKs
Mulungoti and ECLs
Mulongoti and Rupia Bandas
Mulongoti and Mwanawasas
Mlungoti and Chilubas English and the lack of self confidence in the man!
The man could hardly look into the camera.
At one time I thought his arguments against ECL profile was a book launch.
Why not present ECL school records, interviews with school authorities at both Mukuba and Chimwemwe?
Dont go to mukuba but to his village and find grand parents iether from mother side or father side even cousins can be of help to clear this mess.
Really it is not good to have a foreigner in the highiest office , some people are saying it doesnt matter but do they know the thoughts of foreigners! I would encourage this matter is cleared in the minds of zambians and it will give the president more credibility to rule , leaving this as by words would erode his his value . Those who were with him at secondary or university cannot say that they know him no they dont know him .
How old are you?
You think ECL at his age can have a grand parent?
I NOW UNDERSTAND WHY SIMATAA SIMATAA IS A DULL ADMINISTRATOR AND FAILED INDIVIDUAL IN ALL HE DOES.
ITS NOT ABOUT BEING WIGTH EDGAR LUNGU AT SCHOOL AT MUKUBA, WAS HE WITH EDGAR AT BIRTH??
SIMATTAA WHERE U WITH EDGAR AT BIRTH???
SIMATTAA WHERE U WITH EDGAR AT BIRTH???
SIMATAA WHERE U WITH EDGR AT BIRTH???
Simaata are you his spokesman or you want a position as sports minister?in pf we have government spokesman.simaata u are a sports mouth sector not politics.
Simaata you are dull that’s why you failed in football administration,look when a baby with one month comes to Zambia from Drc born decent he is not qualify to be a Zambia.go back in G9 civics book
JUST USE THE BALLOT IF YOU ARE MAN ENOUGH TO CHALLENGE ECL. NOT THESE UNSUBSTANTIATED STORIES . EVERY ZAMBIAN PRESIDENT HAS BEEN LABELLED A FOREIGNER BY SOME OPPOSITION. WHAT A SHAME.
YOU TRIED CHASING ECZ TRUCKS
YOU TRIED EVEN CHASING PLANES CARRYING BOXES OF DRUGS
YOU TRIED USING THE BALLOT,
YOU TRIED USING THE PETITION,
YOU HAVE TRIED EVERY COURT
YOU TRIED TO USE THE ICC
YOU TRIED DISCREDITING ECL AND GRZ GLOBALLY
YOU TRIED BURNING GOVERNMENT INSTITUTIONS AND MARKETS
YOU TRIED ROAD RAGE IN MONGU
YOU TRIED WALKING OUT OF PARLIAMENT
YOU HAVE TRIED THE CORRUPTION CRUSADE
YOU HAVE TRIED THE 42 FIRE TENDERS,
YOU HAVE FAILED USING THE IMPEACHMENT
NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO USE HIS PARENTAGE AND PLACE OF BIRTH
WHAT HAVEN’T YOU TRIED?
BUT THE ZAMBIANS ARE STILL SAYING “EDGAR…
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WHAT HAVEN’T YOU TRIED?
BUT THE ZAMBIANS ARE STILL SAYING “EDGAR LUNGU , EO TWIKWITE”
@ eagle eye 23, even if he was at UNZANDO, now CBU, that campus was started with intakes from UNZA. I see the conspiracy will deepen needlessly as the nit-picking continues.
#Oscar Miyanda Shame on you hiding on the name of miyanda am sure you are not a Zambian.
Mulongoti and Company are enjoying the Brenthurst funds (Anglo America) sponsored by parakeeting their agend.
We have observed, Mulongoti’s dressing has immensely improved and the swagger is back as he strolls in this malls….What a Nigger!!!
Was he born at school?
According to Simataa Lungu was born at Mukuba. What a shameful thinking by Simataa!
Personally one should not care where somebody originally came from. We all know for who, that clause was put in the constitution. We all came from somewhere and landed in today Zambia. That is why we have so many different tribal groupings. We are all Zambians now regardless of where we or our forefathers came from. The only person of interest to us should the one who will bring development to Zambians regardless of that person’s origin. Be it a mwenye, Chocholi or muzungu etc. The bottom line is development and better lives for Zambians. So guys concentrate your efforts in things that make sense and can bring good in your lives.
Everything has failed in UPND, including the commonwealth, so what’s next. It now time for PF to move the motion of barring so quack to appear on ballot papers after having lost 3 or more times. What goes round comes back around.
Diverting attention. UPND is not the topic here.
Presdo is Zambian find a better topic intellectual retards Mulongoti and Siwale
ba malinso napashili UPND imwe mumona fye UPND ubukopo ,just debate the matter of discussion ,I think imwe mwalepona sana icisungu bamipusha ati”discuss the failures of a school” imwe mwayamba na “the university failed ki ki
All this talk was triggered by one over excited mwitwa who wrote the autobiography of lungu full of holes….and the onus is on lungu to come and say something……we all know how the corrupt theif accusations has stuck after the self same silence by lungu…..
In what capacity is mr Simata Simata making all these assertions.Is this an enigmatic comment to attract favor and commiserations from the above since he seemed to have fallen short in his football endeavors.Let the president exculpate himself and challenge the perceived political nonentity and disgruntled Mike mulongoti a liar.Obama was accused and he proved his nationality so let our president do so to silence these allegations.
Simataa is 100 percent right. I am in total agreement with Simataa. ECL was born in Ndola, brought up in Kitwe, started primary education at Mutende in Kwacha Township, then attended Ishuko and Chimwemwe A in Chimwemwe Township, before proceeding to Mukuba Secondary School for his secondary education, and then finally UNZA for his university education. I personally know a number of his former classmates and relatives and even met one of his very proud former primary school headmasters recently. I personally share two schools ECL went to. Since when did ECL he become a foreigner? Most of the bloggers here are writing purely out of malice or ignorance. How pathetic!
According to you, this is the way to prove your nationality?
Mike Mulongoti, admitted as a mature student at UNZA can now question ECL’s credentials….it’s really flattering. Where are our politics going?
Just like Mike, Maurine M also entered UNZA as a mature student but she has never tannished others the way Mike is going about. Ask Mike to produce his Cambridge Certificate, I am sure it will show the reasons why he didn’t go to UNZA after completion of his Form V.
ECL IS PEACEFULLY ENJOYING HIS STAY IN STATE HOUSE. AND SOME OF YOU WHO HAVE NOTHING TO DO ARE BUSY OUTDOING EACH OTHER EITHER WITH INSULTS OR SHARING IGNORANCE. NO WONDER THIS COUNTRY WILL TAKE LONG TO DEVELOP. PLEASE TAKE THE MATTER TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL COURT AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF HIS PARENTAGE. OTHERWISE SHUT UP! I SAY AGAIN SHUT UP!…….INSTEAD OF MAKING NOISE LIKE FROGS
I feel so bad how dull Zambians are, I started primary education at Mutende in Kwacha Township, i was in the same class with ECL he is a Zambian all this Jonathan is useless he has always been known as Edgar never nickname Jonathan we were the few elite Zambians who did well. Am proud to say i lecture at Oxford University. tell me what tribe is Mulongoti Please, why should the President waste time to prove what and then what
Mulongoti is Lamba from Mpongwe. What does being at Mutende Primary School with Jonathan aka Edgar got to do with lecturing at Oxford University? What if you were selling at a market or flipping burgers at BK? Would that make you any different from a school or classmate of Edgar? Sounds like you just wanted to throw in that. BTW, Edgar has been reported has someone who needed help to pass the law licensing exam. That probably exhibits not being elite. It seems your Oxford thing tells much about your elitist mentality and nothing less.
Simataa bauze boyi naine wine nali pa Mukuba three years behind you na Lungu ali four years ahead
@Loliwe, you are the people we need to volunteer for an interview with a privately owned newspaper in Zambia. if ZNBC does it credibility won’t be there being a govt run TV station.
Though in my view, the burden of proof on President’s parentage and origin rests on Mulongoti, being the accuser. the natural law of justice states the accuser to come forward with verifiable, credible evidence to dispel any irregularity. The accusation borders on criminality, since it involves impersonation Of purported Jonathan Mutaware for Edgar Lungu. Mulongoti shouldn’t think the issue will be glossed over just like that, akose to prove his serious allegations.
I fail to understand some of us Zambians.If people want know the primary school Edgar went let them find out from Mulongoti. Let mulongoti produce the evidence of the presidents Birth in Malawi, who his father was , when he came to Zambia,where he lived, who kept him , which house he lived in , the parents of the boy he is alleged to have forged papers from. One would understand forging an identity in higher level education but not primary. Ladies and gentlemen , all this nonsense. Have you got nothing to do than question somebodys primary education when he was brilliant in secondary school and at UNZA . Bwana President , dont even answer to hopeless Mulongoti or others. Let them go to ECZ. they will find what they are looking for if they are genuine people. They say never argue with a…
Abracadabra:Open see same street and the truth will come out of the rock.
…..with a f.ool otherwise oeople will not notice the difference. How on earth did Mulongoti ever become Cabinet Minister?
The sun always rises from the east and sets in the west. Pray that this issue will come to a close and we shall live happily ever after.
Zambians should understand the importance of records management and embrace the RM course, even in heaven there’s records management .
Simataa should be embarrassed. How does being Simataa’s prefect translate into being Zambian? How does one being humble translate into being Zambian? Is being a Chimwemwe resident translate into being Zambian? How do we really attack Mulongoti and fail to mention Msoni? Msoni says there’s no village in eastern Province that claims Lungu. Why? Mulongoti a Lamba cannot be questioned on citizenship just because he is outing Lungu. That is absolute nonsense.
Mr. Simataa is also a very intelligent man albeit he sometimes appears to be a controversial man. As a Kitwe product too (like me), I am proud of him as well as the president. What Mr. Simataa has said is true about the president! Underrate him at your own peril. His humility fools people – many people (fuus, usually). During our school time it was not easy to get 6 points and what you don’t know about this man is the reason HH cannot beat him! You think Sata was a fuu to appoint him? Even Guy Scott underestimated him like all of you! (Where is he now?) You will be surprised that this man will change the landscape of Zambia for good! He held three ministerial positions and excelled in all! Ask why the army love him.
Mr. Simataa is also a very intelligent man albeit he sometimes appears to be a controversial man. As a Kitwe product too (like me), I am proud of him as well as the president. What Mr. Simataa has said is true about the president! Underrate him at your own peril. His humility deceives people – many people (fuuls, usually). During our school time it was not easy to get 6 points and what you don’t know about this man is the reason HH cannot beat him! You think Sata was a fuul to appoint him? Even Guy Scott underestimated him like all of you! (Where is he now?) You will be surprised that this man will change the landscape of Zambia for good! He held three ministerial positions and excelled in all! Ask why the army love him.
How do you gauge intelligence? By just someone’s name or just being out there? Really? You really sound like you did not even finish community college. Intelligence is not Kitwe preserve. There are a lot of you who are not intelligent at all. You just talk louder. So, think of why you think he is intelligent and espouse that with evidence.
54.1 College has nothing to do with intelligence please. The gadgets you’re using now were invented by guys who didn’t even step in college corridors. Meanwhile you with a Masters will spend your entire life insulting people like Edgar without contributing anything to the world. Too much emphasis on paper intelligence will not develope your country. Respect for their talents.
Lazy bum polygamist father produced a hooligan and a bully in which a tribal party saw an opportunity to use in social media for their bullying department of the tribal grouping!
the problem with us zambians is that we dont answer questions the way the are asked,there is no one disputing that ECL went to Mukuba,the question is? was he born at Ndola central hospital in 1956 as he claims and who are his relatives,we are not asking about which school he went to and how brilliant he was…
Haters will never thrieve on cheap politics! Mind you Zambians are very intelligent people. They are able to read between the lines. If you’re to win 2021 elections start talking about what you will do different from what ecl is doing otherwise njala izakunyokolani
I don’t know why Haluza Hagain is fearing to stand against Lungu in 2021, when he will not be eligible to, since he’s a dictator! New law will not allow dictators in their parties to stand!
Those saying Simaata should not comment on this issue because he’s not a politician are wrong. If one knows the truth, they should say it regardless of their status. Secondly Mulongoti asked for Edgar’s primary school but Upnd cohorts are shifting positions on this when someone confirms the primary school Edgar attended that they want his origins not his schools. Origins you want? Go ask scientists the origins of your father.
Mulongot is mad/Why did he support lungu in 2016 Elections? Njala ikakunyokola iwe Mulongoti wayamba kufunta!!!!!!!!!! No job for mike hence the bitterness.
I was born at Chopata General Hospital in 1964, then it was not even called General Hospital. I went back there in 1996 when there was this issue of Kaunda and Chlluba parentage close in the constitution. I couldn’t find my birth record. That’s when I realised in Zambian we are not very good at records keeping. Does that make me Malawian? The origins of all tribes in Zambia is traced from outside. Let me give you but just a few. The Chewa 12th Century entered from the east, the Tonga’s 12th Century from the South, the Luyi(lozi) Luvale and most of these on the west and north-west between 13th and 14th Century from DRC and Angola respectively, these in the North between 14th-15th century from DRC as well. Story short. At independence, all became zambians and obtain Green NRCs…