We have been vindicated over President Lungu’s Swazi Mansion-NDC

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The opposition NDC says it feels vindicated over its revelations that President Edgar Lungu is constructing a mansion in Swaziland.

The party said this follows Information Minister Dora Siliya’s confirmation that the Swazi King Mswati has given President Lungu land on which to construct his retirement home in the southern African kingdom.

Ms. Siliya confirmed that President Edgar Lungu owns land in Swaziland which was given to him by his counterpart King Mswati.

During a press briefing at her office on Monday, Ms. Siliya who is also Chief Government Spokesperson said it was normal for a President to own land in a foreign country.

“These are normal practices when the President travels, that various gifts are given in various forms. In this case it was land that was given to the President. This land was processed and given to the President in title. So there is nothing sinister about that because I do know now that people like to create stories even when there are no stories,” said Ms. Siliya.

“The President was given this gift in Swaziland and it was processed for him. I think the others, like my dear friend Amos [Chanda] was also given but he didn’t process it, but for the President, by virtue of his status in Swaziland, it was given to him even on title deed.”

The NDC says Ms. Siliya’s admission has vindicated its expose of the Swazi mansion under construction.

“A few days ago we published architectural diagrams of a mansion that President Edgar Lungu is constructing in Swaziland. Many people were skeptical of our info, but we knew it was true, we verified the information before we released it,” a statement from the NDC read.

“Today Information Minister Dora Siliya has come out and has confirmed that indeed President Edgar Lungu and his Press aide Amos Chanda own plots and are building houses in Swaziland. President Lungu’s Plot number is Lot 225 Nkonyeni Golf Estate. Dora was trying to justify it by claiming that these plots in a luxurious estate in Swaziland were given as gifts to President Lungu and Amos Chanda.”

The NDC said, “These are multi-million dollar properties that don’t come for free. If we as NDC did not expose these hidden properties abroad they would never have declared them and Zambians would never have known that they owned these properties. NDC has been vindicated.”

 

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  1. How many times have I told president Lungu not to let his subordinates to speak on his behalf. kikiki

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    • I am surprised the Title deed states President Edgar Lungu …surely that house should be repossessed by the State, let him finish it with our money he has stolen!!

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    • The smart people of the Zambian Enterprise are surely working hard …so hard that they are even constructing retirement homes down south after less than 5 years in power!!

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    • Kikikikiki smart people of Zambian enterprise, let’s roll!!
      Where is @ BR Mumba?

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    • What people should remember is that, come 2022 those Eurobond repayments will be due ….these selfsame people like Lazy Lungu who have become filthy rich will be the very people asking us to tightened our belts if they win.

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    • so all of you building house are thieves? Jealous reasoning is all you have. Ubusushi bweka bweka

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    • Nubian Princess – Again you are showing what type of a dullard you are…this explains all those oxymoron statement you post on LT foolishly duping yourself that you employ sarcasm not knowing you are the same caliber as Sharon/Victor!!
      You are not worthy of the Nubian name..I bet you are too daft to know its origin!!

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    • Nubian Princess – Again you are showing what type of a lamebrain you are…this explains all those oxymoron statement you post on LT fooolishly duping yourself that you employ sarcasm not knowing you are the same caliber as Sharon/Victor!!
      You are not worthy of the Nubian name..I bet you are too daft to know its origin!!

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    • Each person is entitled to their opinion, but some opinions are so i.d.iotic that a normal person has a hard time to ignore and pass over. ECL is a public figure, he is not like you or me. Who cares that you bought a house wherever you are? Not for ECL, this is strange. Ati “These are normal practices when the President travels, that various gifts are given in various forms.”, yes, they get gifts, but surely not LAND !!! Can you give us an example of any President who was accorded land in another country? Can you imagine, even AMOS Chanda, what justification can you give that AMOS was also given a gift? Have you ever heard a President running out of the country when things go wrong? Zambians don’t be blindfolded, this is not a normal gift. Don’t be docile, we deserve to know the…

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    • Does the Zambian constitution allow a sitting president to accept gifts from foreign countries? Can some competent lawyers look into this please? Because if it does, then it needs to be changed. A sitting president should never be allowed to accept gifts from foreign countries as that compromises a lot of things. The only time he can accept gifts is if those gifts are going to someone else, like a charitable organization. A sitting president should never be allowed to accept gifts from people to benefit himself–even within his own country. That’s what leads to corruption. That’s why it’s banned even in countries like USA. Secondly, why does Lungu want to retire in Swaziland and not in his own country? Wow. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but a president is usually…

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    • (Continued)… expected to love living in his own country, unless he’s in exile in another country. But like I said before, Lungu and his administration will need to be thoroughly audited upon their departure from office. Whoever the new president will be, he/she should make it a priority to audit Lungu from the day he came into office to the day he leaves office. Same thing with all his ministers. Audit their bank accounts, and other properties they own, and any unexplained increase in wealth should be forfeited to the State, with possible imprisonment. Too many shady dealings going on with this administration.

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    • Brabrabraaaaaaaa!
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      If you have the guts, charge and prosecute. If he is using tax payers’ mula, charge and prosecute. If he is using his salary and proceeds from his assets, calm down, yes kalijofye, otherwise it sounds like the NDC 42 fire trucks allegation. Don’t just yap, get working people. Charge and prosecute. Double h also has houses in S.A. If you smell something initiate some form of legal proceedings, else, shut your a’ trumps. But I know you got no balls to act you useless cowards. Informationless goons.

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    • WELL DONE ECL
      PREPARING FOR RETIREMENT INSTEAD OF DEPEPENDING ON THE STATE TO BUILD YOU A HOUSE

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    • KEEP QUIET NDC AND UPND
      HH AND KAUNDA HAVE MANY HOUSES IN SOUTH AFRICA.
      WHAT’S WRONG WITH ECL BUILDING A HOUSE IN SWAZILAND?
      HE DOES NOT WANT TO DEPEND ON THE STATE BUILDING HIM ONE AFTER RETIREMENT

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    • Kaunda ruled for 27 years and the only home he had was at Shambalakale Village in Chinsali. He handed power to his enemies. All his children are still here in Zambia as ordinary people struggling like all of us. He never ever considered leaving this country even at the height of persecution by FTJ. And yet he had suffered beatings and humiliation from the settler government of Wellensky. Iwe, Paradise Analytica, if Kaunda had houses in South Africa, when did he build them. Kaunda never went to South Africa until it was free, and by that time he had left office. Ba PF when it is necessary to condemn your President you should have the integrity and balls to do so. No government official is supposed to accept large gifts from a foreign power. Kaunda really set very standards for integrity.

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    • hahaha and I actually thought ba Nubian’s tuma one sentence jabs mask some sort of higher intelligence kanshi she is a typical dullard? How does someone equate a private citizen building houses to this visionless creep in State house?? AMH

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    • Who does that?? Building such a big Masson in a Foreign Land?? Lungu has gone mad?? He doesn’t even have a House in Petuake to go Build in Swaziland? Something is very very Wrong? Either he is truly a Foreigner because he is not patriotic for his own country. Foolishness at its fullest. He has wrong advisors.

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    • @ PARADISE ANALYTICA HH> You are a fool who talks with No Facts, Prove it that Kaunda has Houses in South Africa. It is not true. Please don’t just support stupid things. Lungu is a fool. Who does that?? Have you seen Mswati or any African President Build a Mansion in Zambia??Lungu has no house in his own Village Petauke how can he spend such in a foreign land?? Stop being stupid and get serious. This Zambians Money he is playing with..

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  2. Keep quiet NDC. Kaunda has many houses here in South Africa. What’s wrong with Lungu building a house in Swaziland? Is he not working? Cheap politics!

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    • If he didn’t give contracts to Inyatsi construction limited – which received a K701million contract from RDA to rehabilitate the Mufulira -Ndola road we would not have thought it fishy.But ever pancake has two sides to let government clarify this whole thing.Obviously Dora Siliya didn’t do a good job yesterday.

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    • People keep referring to KK having this and that ….do you know how KK was vetted by Chiluba post 1991? They only ended up exposing security details for State House..

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    • It was rb who brought Inyatsi to Zambia…lungu is just continuing stealing where RB left off , but atleast RB was growing the economy with minimal borrowing…..not this corrupt theif lungu.

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    • Maharaji – this is why am surprised at how overpriced these contracts are…when people say AVIC builds flats for them in exchange for contracts here is a clear exchange.

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    • If KK has houses in SA, I bet they are donations. You can be sure of that. This man of integrity had no house, even in Zambia, the time he handed over to Chiluba. How many of your leaders can march that servant-hood leadership?

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    • That is how those contracts are paid off. It is possible ECL and Amos will never spend a penny on the construction of those houses, instead, the likes of the AVIC will pay for the construction.
      Instead of seeking explanation, Zambians are comfortable with Dora`s explanation. D.amn !!

      Please, leave out KK out of this equation – He is a different level.

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    • Iwe DJ7, Changa iwe, are these the standards you want to set, that Presidents of Zambia while in Office with access to public resources should be building mansions in foreign lands. Are you Lungu’s doormat. Imbecile.

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    • @DJ7 You are not telling the truth. Kaunda has no Single House in South Africa. he Children Rented those houses, and they are all back in Zambia You think its Normal what Lungu is doing?? How many houses do u know in Zambia that belong to foreign presidents?? stop your stupidity and get serious. Lungu is gone crazy with stolen money. don’t worry his day will come. we will grab all these homes.

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  3. Lungu is filthy corrupt to the bones .In countries where ethics & laws work efficiently you cannot get gifts given while in public office -they belong to the state (it is seen as corruption and influence buying)

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    • Lazy Lungu couldn’t afford a proper suit at his swear-in…. today the lazy bum is building properties in Swaziland with what? Is he also going to state that he got a loan from a Nigerian bank like RB…I wonder how much RB has paid back!!

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    • What time and place was he give this land, what where circumstances “mune shane kaland?”.

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    • Show us proof otherwise your alarm systems have jammed making noise like a dying shrill.

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  4. This should be a warning to those that are obeying unlawful instructions, that you will remain alone to defend yourself when that time comes. Ukwali insoke takwafwile muntu.

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    • If Lula former president of Brazil could go to jail, what more your sharp Lungu?

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    • Sharp at what? Where was this sharpness 2 -5 years ago when he looked like a trump from AA.

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    • Look at this PF rat ……who thinks stealing is being sharp……..even when he defrauded the widow , to you he was being sharp ?

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    • I can’t believe this, ati he is sharp??? This has nothing to do with sharpness

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    • They have no balls to stand for their allegations. Don’t mind their feeble alarmed minds. These weaklings, awe sure.

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    • @Thorn in the flesh
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      This is not about providing proof or that kind of sh.i.t- talk.
      It’s not proper for anyone holding an office like the President to accepting presents or emoluments from any King, Prince or Foreign State. This is to prevent foreign powers using gifts or money to corrupt the President’s loyalty to the Country. What is so difficult for you not to understand this simple narration? No other head of State can do this while he is still in Office.

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    • Being sharp means not being caught with your pants down. Considering you are a Lungu supporter you are as dull as him. How does he let his name be found on the plans of a mansion when he knows the consequences? Ati sharp. hahahaha!

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    • hahaha, ba Thorn in the a.n.u.s rushing from comment to comment trying to protect his fellow imb.ecile. The visionless one is going to jail my friend so if you are the twits in charge of rigging elections you better up your game for 2021 coz uyu mbuli tatwakamuleke.

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  5. “Whoever stands in need of honey should not be afraid of bees” – African Proverb.

    When we call him “Lazy Lungu” you think its an insult…this man couldn’t afford to pay for his nomination fee 2 years ago today he is an International Property Developer…really laughable…please Zambians do not let him hide behind ZP with this issue like he did with his identity where he has refused to clarify letting his sister who lives in the Komboni protect him without shame. Who are you going to ask now Edgar/Jonathan?
    I don’t hate Edgar Lungu , I just detest corruption and stealing …

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    • In a classroom setting, you are simply a miserable noise maker.
      Your claims don’t amount to anything. That is my biggest worry. Sick sentiments. Evil cowards. ACT of you can stand by your naive allegations. Show us you got balls kaili.

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  6. Why only accept after NDC has exposed it that’s the question? These people have no shame whatsoever. Dora your time is coming, you may think you are clever ask Shikapwasha. As for Lungu, he thinks he will get away with everything, these morons defending him will scampa like rats in bush fires.

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    • Dora thought she was clever and witty answering that question but her stupidity and arrogance is her downfall…she messed up big time even stating that it was a gift from the Kingdom. Amos was also involved…i wonder how these thieves will spin this one.

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    • Yes, what justification is there that Amos too got a gift? This skull head also thinks Amos is sharp, right?

      Awe mwee, too much ifinangwa pa Zed.

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    • Incredible source. We are more likely to believe siliya than NDC, like lilo and jj.

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  7. In less than 6 years lungu is worth some $20 million…..that is why when lungu is accused of being a corrupt theif , he choses to be silent.

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    • You lie like a serpent. He doesn’t need to answer to pettiness initiated by CK, double h and cliques like you. Take him to court it you got proof.

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  8. If these guys can generate massive income for themselves in such a short period …imagine what they could do with EUROBOND for they country or money in the treasury? Our streets would clean, hospitals would have medicine, school children would have books….oh this can not be hardwork as its corruption simple.

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    • Show me a poor African president and I will show a bitter online sucker bent at insulting his president day in day out. Vindication my CRACKED foot.

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    • Show me a poor African president and I will show a bitter online goom bent at insulting his president day in day out. Vindication my CRACKED foot.

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  9. It’s ignorance at its best…. Zambia and Swaziland are too close to separate.Its too late.
    The ties are too deep.
    Zambia raised Mswati from the time he was a teenager right at state house.
    King Sobhuza the father to Mswati and KK were like someone na phone.
    Some even accused KK to be the boyfriend to the current Queen coz he rarely missed Mswati’s birthdays.

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    • Iwe, leave out KK, don’t misuse KK friendship King Sobhuza to justify this……
      Wake up.

      So you will not be surprised if turns out that Mswati Owns part of Mfuwe.

      “King Mswati was speaking shortly before he left for Mfuwe together with President Edgar Lungu on a private visit.” This where things were being cooked, so don’t bring in KK

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    • Where is ci BR Mumba to support the id1ot. Chena cilitole ci Mumba. You will hear his theories.

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  10. But nothing is hidden on the paper work. Since it states President maybe the state should takeover the property.

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  11. But times of Swaziland have refused that the king have this land to Lungú. I wonder what the next explanation will be. I hope they won’t say it was another joke!!

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  12. So closing The Post was not the solution after all. infor still come out like a cat let out of the bag .

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  13. I have also built one in South Africa. Is it wrong? “When I visited Swaziland and the King saw my royal roots which are of the Ngoni – Shaka Zulu and he said, come and build here, you are telling me I should have said no?” Primitives!

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    • These are the empty tin cadres who Politicians ask to go with machetes to attack others as they just go head first without question!!

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    • Empty cadres vs bewitched default cadres. J j just ask Theresa May for a plot. ECL will lend you something. Be productive young man.

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    • Haha, whole of a sudden your pop corn machine has been turned into property machine. Mad scientists has been beaten at his game.

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  14. I told the tribal gathering which never wanted to support Sata and Lungu that when they became president, the tribal grouping wanted their men to be included in government! “It is the duty of every president to ensure that all tribes are included in the government,” he had said! In other words he wanted the president to include Chief Mukuni who is in bed with HH and other clan members with sworn royal roots to the clan! What next, so that they can be like Zambia Watch Galus against the government! I am glad, it will never be president, no matter what!

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    • Sharon, what has the PF Government given you so you can forsake your country and people. How can you can support a President who is custodian of the resources of Zambia building a mansion in a foreign country so that he will have divided loyalties. That is not to mention the dubious source of money for such a mansion. I am sure you would like all your PF gangsters to open bank accounts in Switzerland and start building Houses all over the world.

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    • Indeed, very right, except this time ……in the form of gifts.

      “…..King Mswati ….left for Mfuwe together with President Edgar Lungu on a private visit.” to review the house drawings.

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  15. You are a dog Sharon. What has this got to do with HH. You always want to bring HH in issues that doesn’t add up. Is it HH who asked Jonathan to go & build a house in Swaziland? Your own father in your home has plans to hibernate & all you do is shouting ATI ifintu nipono. Meantime your humble doesn’t think & consider you but all you keep doing is praising & worshipping the humble thief. The people that worked tirelessly during cholera outbreak at Heroes stadium have not been paid since January, Times of Zambia employees have gone months without a salary, NHA employees have now clocked a year without salaries & we have a humble leader who claims to have empathy on the Zambian populace building a 4 million dollars mansion in a foreign land. Given this account of prevailing poverty in…

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    • hh is a biggest thief in Zambia and has hidden the privatisation loot in the paradise papers and this is in the public domain no he cannot win elections because he’s cursed for being a sadist

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      Tell him.
      The chap sounds like he has a knowledge deficiency syndrome (KDS) problem.

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  16. Dora! Dora! Dora! Do you know ethics?
    These are normal practices when the President travels, that various gifts are given in various forms. In this case it was land…
    Any gift given to the president is given to Zambia not to an individual. Remember when Chiluba was given a BMW by the German company. The citizens reminded him it wasn’t his car. The post led the assault. I wonder where that beamer is

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  17. It is an impeacheable offence followed by jailtime to personalise gifta given by virtue of office. No single private company would retain an employee who does such. That house clearly belongs to Zambian gvt. I coudnt imagine Lungu could be so reckless and bad………….

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    • It’s always 1 finger point at one individual and 4 fingers pointing back at cha! Got you s.u.c.k.e.r.
      IMPEACHMENT your asz!

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  18. If that land has been gifted to the president, then it belongs to the state since this happened during official GRZ duty. All this will be handed back to the state when the time come for him to leave office, since he is not always going to be president of Zambia

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  19. Is it a crime to own land?? Is the president suppose to not invest what he works for?? This is pure unadulterated political persecution designed to turn attention from fundamental matters like the national dialogue.

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    • Your head is too rotten to understand such issues…where would anyone start expanding especially with someone as narrow-minded as you are. Just drink Chibuku and sleep!!

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    • Zambian Citizen – As I always say you are thicker than roller-meal porridge..I mean you are the selfsame individual who thinks procuring an Mercedes Benz Van Ambulance at almost $300K is a good deal…really laughable…how would you surely understand that a Head of State should not receive gifts especially from companies bidding for lucrative gov’t contracts. Where would one start??

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    • I can go further, this could be understood as a threat to National Security, he can easily be compromised. Are these dunderheads considering this aspect?

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    • Zambian Citizen – Yes, you are right its the same as you never take time to educate yourself.

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    • If it’s Zambian taxpayers money, a crime has just been committed, someone report ECL to the ACC but if it his money, heavens knows that the jealousy needs to STFU. There’s no clinical medicine for jealousy and envy ka!
      Iwe ni kwacha ya nyoko?

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  20. If Kambwili has property (real estate) kwena why should ECL not own some property outside the country. This man is working like anybody else. Surely people of this great nation let’s serious for once. So much because the MSN who holds the highest office in the land is building a mere house in Swaziland l know of a Zambian friend who worked as a teacher in Botswana and has a beautiful house in Johannesburg. What is the fuss? Kwena bushilu nomba.

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    • My Brothers in PF, please understand that the President is not an ordinary person to open accounts in Swiss Banks or to build houses in foreign lands or to accept undeclared gifts from foreigners. Let me remind you, not long ago, Chief Justice Ngulube had to resign from his position for accepting a GIFT of money from President Chiluba when his house got burnt. And you think THE PRESIDENT should accept gift of LAND in a foreign country. He should wait until he has left the Office of President.

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  21. ITS JUST A DRAWING THE VALUE IS IN THE LAND GIVEN CEMENT STEEL AND STONES FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BUILD BEFORE FOR THAT EXTENT OF DRAWING CANNOT COST HIM $3 MILLION DOLLARS THEN IN THE ADDRESS THAT HIS CURRENT PLACE AND CAN BE AMENDED IF HE CHANGES

    WE HAVE A LOT WEALTHY SWANAS , CONGOLESE .ZAMBIANS AND ZIMBABWEANS INCLUDING MALAWANIAS WHO HAVE BUILT SHOPPING MALLS HOTELS REAL ESTATE HOUSING UNITS IN SOUTH AFRICA AND SWAZILAND TO DIVERSIFY THEIR INCOME BASE AND STILL LIVE HOME AND MANAGE THEIR LOCAL AND FOREIGN PROPERTIES

    UNLESS ITS A FOREIGNER DEVELOPING THEN ITS OKAY NO WONDER OUR ECONOMY DOESNOT PERFORM LIKE CHINA IN CASHFLOWS

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    • CK says he has been s bussiness man for the past 20 years , we know lungu was broke 8 years ago…..

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    • Tell us If the president really uses his salary for his day to day living. Tell us If the president is as dull as you are in térms of him not investing or owing personal businesses.

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  22. MAY BE WHAT YOU CAN DO IS TO FIND OUT HOW HE IS FUNDING THE DEVELOPMENT LAND DOWN THERE IS EXPENSIVE HE CAN SELL OR MORTGAGE OR HAS AN EQUITY PARTNER FROM CHINA OR EUROPE ITS BUSINESS CREATIVITY ITS NORMAL NOTHING CORRUPTION BANE HE HAS DONE SAME HERE HOME AND ITS ONLY WISE NOT TO PUT ALL EGGS IN ONE BUCKET INFACT RENTALS AND TOURISM FEES DOWN THERE IS WORTHY IT BUT ALSO SUCH INVESTMENTS IN A SMALL COUNTRY LIKE ESWATINI ATTRACTS EVERYONE WE ENCOURAGE ALL ZAMBIANS TO INVEST ACCROSS BRING IN FOREX IN RENTALS AND THOSE CAPITAL GAINS

    YOU SAVE YOUR MONEY WISELY BY LOOKING AT POTENTIAL AREAS ACCROSS ALL REGIONS

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  23. Are we saying that all mansions in Zambia are built by Zambians? The answer is no. The next question is can the President afford to build a mansion? The answer is yes because his income is not spent as long as he is President but acummulate in his bank account.

    HH has a mansion in new Kasama. Did he steal the money. HH has more money outside the country in offshore accounts. Whats your conclusion?

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    • Its like hitting a brick wall with you dingbats…no wonder our country is sinking in a debt spiral!!

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    • Wake up. Zambia is moving on well thanks. We just have a few disgruntled citizens who can’t get over the 2016 elections. We will allow them to live in the past as we move on.

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  24. YOU CAN ALSO BUILD IT OVER 4 YEARS THAT DRAWING TO GIVE YOU A MARKET VALUE OF MORE THAN $3 MILLION WHICH YOU WOULD THEN SELL TO ANY FOREIGNOR FOR MORE THAT ITS DEVELOPMENT VALUE

    HE HAS OBVIOUSLY TAKEN A RISK OUTLOOK AND SEEN TO INVEST THERE NOTHING CORRUPT OR WRONG

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    • You dingbats are always swift to give all kinds of excuses for theft…yet you the selfsame morons who complain when you are driving on recently constructed roads with potholes due to corruption.

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  25. @Mr Kudos
    Lungu is just sharp because in Zambia there are no laws. In Zambia, no one respects the law instead the citizenry respect individuals , even thieves like Lungu and the PF thug.

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  26. The value is the land that he was Given Not what you are talking about He can sell the land at Present value for more that $10 Million dollars to people who so much need land in Swaziland for tourism purpose You know there are a lot of beautiful Dlaminis there

    We know he cannot develop all at once it will be in stages but we will not be surprised if He got frustrated by this privacy breach

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  27. Surely we cannot produce a president or politicians to much the mind of TRUMP AS IN TRUMP TOWER

    SHOULD IT BE ALWAYS SEEN AS CORRUPTION EVEN OR A SIMPLE BUILDING IDEA OR CONSTRUCTION

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  28. Brabrabraaaaaaaa!
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    If you have the guts, charge and prosecute. If he is using tax payers’ mula, charge and prosecute. If he is using his salary and proceeds from his assets, calm down, yes kalijofye, otherwise it sounds like the NDC 42 fire trucks allegation. Don’t just yap, get working people. Charge and prosecute. Double h also has houses in S.A. If you smell something initiate some form of legal proceedings, else, shut your a’ trumps. But I know you got no balls to act you useless cowards. Informationless goons.

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    • When important national issues arise, they boycott. NHI bill, ZCID dialogue…then we must be getting excited over allegations they can’t prove?? NDC can’t even file a successful nomination. Total twits embracing gutter journalism to smeer poop on their rivals!!

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  29. This issue is neither legal nor moral! There is nothing illegal or moral in Zambia!

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    • You lie like a serpent. Just stop misleading the feeble minded. I will not let you. You think the president has a bowl of national money on his laps looking for a way to use it. Get a life and stop those sick lamentations. Lazy bums. Get a life. Is this what you have been doing while I was off this blogspot?

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  30. Today is a field day for Jay Jay….kikikiki…..He has even admitted, finally, where his allegiances lie even though he will whine that he is not upnd and therefore not a tribalist.

    Anyway, this is not good practice by The President, with lame excuses from Dora Siliya. It is not proper for Presidents to receive such gifts which are not open to scrutiny, what is to stop Jay Jay from concluding that it’s corruption? “Normal ” gifts, to quote Dora, should be souvenirs, medals, horses, one or two cows etc. If the President’s handlers think its okay for him to receive massive “gifts” such as these Nkandlhas then there is something wrong with their bongos, and it is legitimate to demand accountantability.
    This brings me to another aspect which has been bothering me and I did not know…

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    • As always you want to wallow in the mad and take the debate to utterly useless political parties!!!

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    This brings me to another aspect which has been bothering me and I did not know where to start from. The President keeps donating various goods (including personally branded school books) and financial resources to various causes and it is made to sound as if it is his personal cash. Obviously it can not be personal resources, so where and how do we account for these donations so that no one cries corruption? Why don’t we mention the source of funds?

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  32. …..Having said that above, h.h is no alternative leadership for Zambia with their tribal objectives which are worse than any form of corruption ever seen on earth, for tribalism inevitably leads to war or even genocide.
    If the alleged corruption persists unabated, the only viable options we have is a successful challenge from a non tribal opposition party, or alternatively a President can be recalled by his party one way or another as South Africa has done twice now. But NOT h.h, ever, for God’s sake!!!!!!!! Just imagine what the upnd said in 2016 “If you can’t speak our language, how are you going to work with us?” You want that? Me I prefer corruption as a better devil!!!!!!!!!

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  33. It’s not proper for anyone holding an office like the President to accepting presents or emoluments from any King, Prince or Foreign State. This is to prevent foreign powers using gifts or money to corrupt the President’s loyalty to the Country. What is so difficult for you not to understand this simple narration? No other head of State can do this while he is still in Office.

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  34. This is when you see those people who think but can be heaped together with the chuff. Senior Citizen and B R Mumba, Sr. They disappear as their small head keep spinning trying to find an excuse for the criminality of Lungu. We told you Lungu is not Zambian. Here we go, why should a President or former President who swore to protect the country be compromised and plan to run away after office. He is planning to go into exile instead of facing trial for his misdeeds and criminal behavior. #ARRESTLUNGU

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  35. People should debate things in context. Swaziland is one of the poorest countries on earth – not naturally, but by the hand of an absolute ‘royal’ system that usurps most of the resources. It is a tiny country, albeit with a small population. Why should a foreign President, by ‘gift’, ‘business’ or ‘crook’ have access to such a large portion of land that should instead be used for the benefit of some of the 70% of the people of Swaziland living below the poverty datum-line? The King has a personal fortune of £125 million, does not tolerate opposition, and debases women.
    Is it a wonder that we continually perpetuate poverty by continuing to defend the indefensible – We bury our heads in the sand, fail to make our leaders to account and ultimately we watch, as resources are…

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    • Indeed, and Amos has his mouth wide laughing…..how stu.pi.d are Zambians??!!!!!
      Zambians are taken for granted, one would think our educated elites on this forum would see through things, unfortunately not.

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  36. The corruption and stealing of Lungu and his minions has gone to a level never seen before in the history of this nation. But they are doing so because they think they can get away with it. With a docile citizenry; compromised law enforcement and the closed legitimate independent newspapers like The Post, they are stealing unabatedly with no fear or shame whatsoever.

    The other day, dude was hoodwinking docile Zambians that he cares by staging a fundraising [email protected] event. Here he is acquiring land through corruption kickback, and then building a mansion at $3.4 million. Just unbelievable! @ ‘this is normal’ my arse… no, this is grand corruption at the highest scale never seen before.
    If the ACC still have any remnant of integrity still left in them, they need to investigate this…

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  37. …If the ACC still have any remnant of integrity still left in them, they need to investigate this company Inyatsi and how they won all those contracts. And the sleepy citizens need to mobilise themselves and start demonstrating against this grand corruption without any fear. It’s about time we started fighting for the future of our country.

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  38. Why should we allow the corrupt, the tribal, the evil opposition elements now to take a higher moral ground? Surely even mr Dr Kambwili today stands on an ant hill to pontificate to us? All because of failure to do things properly? Look you PF, you can’t allow such large gifts and expect to remain uncompromised. We went through the FJT issue and look the way he died and the way he is remembered, look at the ending of Zuma? Look at Mobutu and his Gbadolite? You expect different results? Politics and power have a way of getting to people’s heads!!!!
    Not that the President is necessarily guilty like those above, as it may be made to appear by known and worse scoundrels, but you are certainly exposing the Presidency to unnecessary ridiculeand expecting dufferent results. Do ALL of YOU…

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  39. I am not a politician but I find this article to be malicious because it is illogical. Is building a house in a foreghn country automatically corruption? Is receiving land corruption. Mswati Bali mupela impanga Ku north western MU Zambia, what’s your take. That’s why our cases are always rejected in court. Before publishing, find out how he acquired it and how he is building it. This is what will help u, in law we don’t work with assumptions

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  40. I have been vindicated also for telling the nation long before NDC that Lungu is a thief;when i get into power; i shall get back the money used for this house to be used by the Zambian people;

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  41. MOREOVER ITS JUST AN ARCHITECTURAL IMPRESSION IMPRESSION THE STONES AND CONCRETE CANNOT COST HIM MORE THAN $ 1 MILLION DOLLARS

    HE CAN ACCEPT THE ARCHITECTURAL IMPRESSION OR NOT IF THE BOQ IS EXAGGERATED FOR HIS POCKET

    THE VALUE IS IN THE LAND AND NOT THE DRAWING AND THAT IS NOT CORRUPTION

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  42. REPUBLICS ARE BORN AND THEY DIE WHILE POLITICS REMAIN DYNAMIC IN THE QUEST FOR BETTERMENT OF STANDARDS. MAYBE ECL WAS LOOKING AT IT IN THE ANGLE OF GOING A BIT THE ANCIENT WAY OF ESTABLISHING HIS SETTLEMENT IN A FULL TIME MONARCHY ARRANGEMENTS FOR EASY ACCESS TO A KING AND OTHER PRIVALEDGES, AS IN, THE BIBLICAL WAY, I WOULD LOVE TO SETTLE LIKE THAT TOO, ESPECIALY WITH FREE LAND PLUS ALL THOSE BEATIFUL SWAZI LADIES, QUITE TEMPTING I MUST ADMIT.

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  43. I don’t see anything wrong in this modern global village, Maybe just because he is a president, but how many because people have property abroad? I like Excellency’s Lungu’s thinking. Again if he was building in Lusaka they will still take their cameras there and say Look what he has stolen?

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  44. KING MSWATI IS RICHEST IN AFRICA WITH HE ENJOYS SUPPORT FROM EU AND NOT FROM INYATSI

    LUNGU IS ACTUALLY PRIVILEGED FOR THAT LAND

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  45. Do we have a choice in Zambia? Even those aspiring for presidency are already thieves. Hh who is supposed to be an alternative is the waste of all. Him started stealing big during privatization, ECL is even much better as he is just getting leftovers. Hh became rich from the cuts he received for undervalued mines. We are now used until such a time when we shall see a honesty and blameless man on political scene.

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  46. ME THIS ISSUE IS CONFUSING ME, AMOS CHANDA IS SAYING THE PRESIDENT WAS GIVEN THAT GIFT AS A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL, SO AT WHAT POINT DID HE CONVERT FROM PUBLIC TO PRIVATE IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE GIFT, BECAUSE FROM MY BELIEF HE WENT THERE AS A PUBLIC FIGURE WITH PUBLIC RESOURCES SO BY AMOS’S VERSION THEIR WAS A TIME DURING HIS PUBLIC APPEARANCE WHEN HE CONVERTED TO PRIVATE JUST IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE GIFT AND REVERTED TO PUBLIC JUST TO FLY BACK HOME??? JUST NEED CLARIFICATION

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