Kanchibiya Member of Parliament Martin Malama yesterday moved a private member’s motion seeking Parliament’s support to ban political parties and organisations that support Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender rights in Zambia.
And tempers flared among Opposition Members of Parliament after Mr. Malama mentioned that the UPND is among the 30 political Parties that are affiliated to the African Liberal Network.
Mr. Malama who laid a copy of African Liberal Network- ALN – Constitution and other documents on the floor of the House said the UPND was a member of the Network.
He explained that to join the Network, Party President, Secretary-General and International Relations Chairman need to sign the constitution.
Mr. Malama said Zambians cannot allow political parties to introduce Liberal values in the country, which seeks to allow Homosexuality.
He said that no one inclusive of the Church and Chiefs across the country can allow such values to be inculcated into the country.
Mr. Malama said that Zambia is a Christian Nation and people must not subscribe to such liberal values.
Meanwhile, Leader of the Opposition Jack Mwiimbu said a similar pattern of accusing political opponents that they supported gay rights, failed in the past.
However, First Deputy Speaker of the National Assembly, Catherine Namugala had a tough time trying to calm the two sides as Mr. Malama debated.
The motion however lapsed because of time.
Uko
Liberal values doesn’t mean supporting gay rights. The two issues are separate. Without liberal values, Zambia wouldn’t have been an independent country. It’s liberal thinkers who drew up the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights which effectively outlawed colonialism. Malama is a medical doctor and can be excused for not knowing this.
Ignorance is bliss, I think countries like the West and USA should put travel bans on foolish MPs that abrogate human rights. Malama should be more concerned with political violence , killing of innocent people and shrinking democratic space in Zambia
UPND must disassociate from ALN. We can’t allow our party to have any more links to this ALN. It will make our delay to form govt prolonged.
The other issue is perhaps smoking. Smoking is legal or rather tolerated. But it’s dangerous and un-natural and the body has no biological craving for cigarette smoke. But why’s the Zambian govt not banning it? Godfridah Sumaili, please move a motion in parliament to ban smoking altogether.
I consider myself a student of liberal thought. Without liberal thought, the world would be miserable and such abominations as slavery eould still be here. Godfridah Sumaili herself would hv been a slave without liberal thought. It’s just that she doesn’t know it.
So this means UPND doesn’t exist anymore….so homosexual Hakainde Hichilema should quit Politics
Anonymous if you are so anti homo, what the heck are you doing in a country that celebrates homosexuality? Come back here and join your PF friends, don’t be a hypocrite mune.
No liberal thought, no liberty. It’s thay simple.
UPND CAN’T DIVORCE LAN BECAUSE ITS FOREIGN SPONSORS GAVE THEM CONDITIONS OF SUPPORTING FILTHY HOMOSEXUALITY WHEN GIVING THEM MONEY.
SO, NON-TRIBALISTIC VOTERS NOW HAVE A CLEAR CHOICE
AND CHECK MATE!
Jul 26, 2013 – UN unveils ‘Free & Equal’ campaign to promote lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender rights. … Unveiling the new campaign, High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay stressed that such discrimination – sometimes leading to physical assault, sexual violence and targeted killings – is a violation of basic human rights.
Is our “Christian Nation” still a member of United Nations?
I think you MPs are a joke gay or whatever in those lines are not affecting our economy. Why ain’t you addressing mismanagement of public funds ,forest 27,corruption and murders going on during elections. You truly dont add up to representing the people at the end of the day. These gay problems are not yet there yet as compared to the violence and corruption we seeing. And no one from our part has stood up and spoken against the same. PF members are you that blind not to see the main problems we facing.
WE HAD THIS STORY DURING SATA WHO WAS CASTIGATED OF THE SAME BUT TODAY THE SAME PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING HIS FRUITS. WHEN DID WE HEAR THIS STORY OF HOMO. YOU CANT FOOL ZAMBIANS. WE ARE FED UP OF THIS GYMNASTIC STYLE OF SWAYING FROM REAL ISSUES AFFECTING THE COUNTRY. WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF? THAT WHICH YOU ARE AFRAID OF WILL SURELY CATCH UP WITH YOU.
It’s ok to loathe homosexuality and throw up at the sight of a gay, lesbian, or transgender person. The trouble is on the account each of us will give to God about how we treated his other half of creation. Simply I nor you heterosexual people here, have no right under the eyes of God to banish these people from living normal productive lives and feel a sense of belonging in our society. What about the drunks that litre the streets on weekends and go home with women other than their wives, must we also banish them from society? As Jesus said, let he who has no sin caste the first stone. Malama should not be carelessly uttering such statements, we might be sanctioned and our debt dependent Country brought to its knees like Zimbabwe. Filekeni fye ifi, it doesn’t affect you in any way…
….Filekeni fye ifi, it doesn’t affect you in any way. Just work hard and live productive lives and finally die like everyone does. Lesa umwine ewayishiba where he is taking civilization, we just tools.
Let’s kick ’em out! They are trying to destroy Zambia. We don’t want sodoma na gomoHakainde.
Upndead thinks this is an easy undertaking.
Wait for 2021.
Eggs will roll.
UPND
Any party that has rigged elections must be banned forever.
Any person who is UNLIKABLE and UNVOTARABLE and thinks he is WINNABLE and his people live in denial must be banned forever.
Satan says “Gay is not affecting our HAKAINDE HAIKONOMY!”
PF is very desperate not to have either H.H. or UPND contest the elections. This is why they keep on coming with this and with that. They even create fake news. This is fake news.
Its all desperation. We will hear more of this going into 2021. It is all orchestrated.
That’s a nonsense motion,our African priorities are better housing,clean water ,better healthcare ,education ,food security and jobs.
Focus on creating job you promised and eradication of poverty, this homosexuality agenda you are clinging on will backfire soon. If you want to go back to a one party state just come out on the open, rather than find lame excuses. Your corruption and incompetencr has resulted in loss more lives than war.
A LIFE HAS BEEN LOST ON KAOMA IT DOESN’T BOTHER YOU, GUESS WHY YOUR A S S IS HELL BENT ON REMAINING IN POWER AT THE EXPENSES OF ANYTHING ELSE.
The little boy is in trouble in 2021!
Human rights, for all citizens, must lead the way.
Nothing could possibly be more important.
Fake PF news again!!!
Thank you Mr. Malama.
Forecast: Western countries don’t support homosexuality. They merely tolerate it. Homosexuality existed even before laws were passed to make it an illegal act or to decriminalize it. In other words homosexuality’s existence is independent of whether there are laws to criminalise it or to decriminalize it.
Again am trying to think critically why is it that HOMOSEXUALITY is promoted or supported by the western countries..?
I would like to know what they want to achieve.From psychological point of view I really find it wrong to embrace it.
My thought
It is population control. They forgot that Africans are God’s children. Most of us that is, we embrace having families and growing Christ’s ideals of hard work, development and righteousness.
Denying people human rights because of how they are born or whom they love is sick and immoral. Still, it is the Christian thing to do. Their hate and intolerance has lasted two thousand years and must come to an end.
Calling a country “Christian” is the greatest insult possible.
We need cheaper maize meal not gay issues.
Quite unfortunate that other party officials are involved and they keep denying!
But don’t even waste your time banning them cause they are free falling.
The focus of our debates should not be gay rights mwebantu! We ‘ve got more important things to deal with
Nothing could be more important than equal human rights for all citizens. Are you one of the next people to be denied rights for some illogical and immoral idea? What will you do then?
Instead of finding ways to feed a country in famine, they are more interested in what happens in people’s bedrooms. This is the party you want to lead you ? Wake up zambian.. again one Zambia? Forward! Let us show these thieves.
Meanwhile my white wife is preparing for the visit of my parents who are flying from Zambia to visit us here in Chelsea London. We live on a very expensive street and enjoy the company around us. My white wife has spent almost 9000 pounds planning my parents visit. It will be a fun packed visit. No Zambia woman ever did this for my parents in past
@ N.ee.z (upnd strategist
I stayed in West London the home of Chelsea and never saw any black chimp who looked liked he originated from Zambia except some footballers, dont lie that you can be permitted to live in West London when you just a popper, cleaning public toilets.
That’s because chimps live in jungles or zoos. Better still look in the mirror, you will see one
UPND is a member of an organisation that espouses and believes in Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender rights. If HH and UPND willingly applied to the membership for admission and it was done. Effectively, whether its in UPND manifestos or not, it simply means that HH the party leader has endorsed the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender rights. This means that should in the unlikely event UPND formed government, these rights will be enshrined in the Zambian constitution. What this means in plain terms is this women will be able to marry fellow women, men to marry fellow men, children will have the right to move naked in the streets no one can arrest or stop them.
Thats why HH will never be voted or allowed to step in State House now and in the future.
The UN supports the LGBT, Zambia was given a chance to vote but abstained. Zambia did not want to bite the hand that feeds it! Do your research!
Yaba – NOBODY is above the UN Charter: We ALL have the responsibility to DEFEND AND PROTECT the Rights of ALL human beings => Homo sapiens !! Humans ARE multi-gender life-forms on this earth( created by God for those who Keep yapping “Christian Nation”) – Your sexual-orientation does NOT DEFINE YOUR HUMANITY !! Being black does not mean you are not a human being…surely a medical doctor moving such a Motion!! Indeed let the West declare evry single one of These hypocrites persona non grata. Stop s´killing your People, stealing their livelihoods, swindling their Treasury, feed them – who cares who is AC or DC so Long as they are consenting adults and like every one else not humping in public?
SUPPORTING GAY RIGHTS CAN ONLY BE PROVED BY THE ONE ACCUSED IF HE REFUSES WHY FORCE HIM. ITS NOT LIKE EATING SNAKES IN PUBLIC WHERE WE HAVE PROOF.
Foolish ignorance is laughable.
Just don’t understand our party leadership, why not just move out of ALN. That Mwanza and Kalunga did lots of damage with that article
How did they do damage when no Zambians are talking about that nonsense? They are not dumb enough to focus on stup!d PF topics when there is twelve hours of loadshedding everyday and people are not making money. If!puba who keep blabbering about this are PF !d!ots mune, don’t get it twisted.
In July 2013, the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights launched the U.N.’s Free & Equal campaign to promote understanding of the human rights of LGBTQ people. The campaign has reached an estimated two billion people through traditional and social media, and generated a stream of widely shared materials – including these powerful videos.
Zambia is a member of the UN right?
@ 11.2 that question you have asked justifies my labeling of PF supporters as pure dimwits.
PF is having jitters as time is running out on them so very fast, wapya wanya…..
PF is Homophobic, Tribal, Discriminatory, Hypocritical and Evil!
Let’s talk about how you have spent the USD $19.1 Billion Debt as the World Bank has finally revealed! If we factor in more hidden Chinese Loans, Zambia could be owing in excess of USD $ 30 Billion, way over our Gross National Income PF USD $ 25.6 Billion which technically means Zambia is owing more than it can generate in taxes from a contracting economy. In short, Zambia is bankrupt! The motion by Malama is a mischievous tactic by PF to divert public attention from the debt crisis we are in! Leave Gays alone! LGBT matters are personal! Let’s not get too personal and intimate when making Laws! They are also human beings with the GOD-GIVEN right to Choose between Life and Death! Sodom and Gomorrah was not destroyed because…
UPND is xenophobic.
Sodom and Gomorrah was not destroyed because of Sodomy alone! It was destroyed because of bl00dshed and violence also! Read your Bible carefully! What we need is to introduce a bill that bans all kinds of discrimination and to restrain Parliament from passing discriminatory laws which continue to divert our valuable time from important Economic issues!
You really believe biblical myths. Thought adults would be beyond those myths
Comment:
One day soon, the time will be right when I will find a suitable name for those calling the PF government “thieves”. For now, well…..
Let them ban receiving Aid from countries that have gay prime minister like Irish republic. No more Irish aid please. No more boreholes drilled with Irish money because they support gay rights.
UPND homosexuality agenda must be rejected with contempt.
Denying homosexuals human rights is contemptible and not worthy of any decent society. The homosexual “agenda” is exactly the same as the straight “agenda”, your indecent ignorance notwithstanding.
The “homosexual agenda” is exactly the same as the “straight agenda”. Grow up, get an education, get a job, find love, raise a family, live long and prosper; without the hate and intolerance of religious freaks.
Show me the differences.
Imagine, these (hon) people get paid a salary for debating such nonsense. They even ran out of time squabbling about the issue. How about doing something productive than to ban ideas? “Banning” ideas is what the ballot box is for. They were elected so get busy!
Our MPs are bunch of jokers.They debate useless time wasting issues.
This morons need to debate serious issues like poverty,healthcare,education….etc.
If Gay rights exist world wide doesnt mean i support it.
God’s Wrath against Sinful Humanity
18 For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all the ungodliness and wickedness of those who in their wickedness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God himself has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s[p] invisible attributes—his eternal power and divine nature—have been understood and observed by what he made, so that people[q] are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him. Instead, their thoughts turned to worthless things,[r] and their senseless hearts were darkened. 22 Though claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images that looked like mortal human…
Gods exist only in diseased minds. Get help.
Foolish, ignorant and really dumb.
What a load of nonsense! Is this something for Parliament to spend hours on when we have more pressing matters? Or is this just part of the desperate orchestrated campaign to find ways of getting rid of all major opposition to the PF and create the One-Party state that they crave for?
I have said before, sexuality practised in the realms of privacy by consenting adults should be left as such. What kind of unbridled ignorance do we have in Zambia? How about punishing all the heterosexual deviant behaviour that is carried out in the open – sexual abuse of women, rape, defilement etc;
Homosexuality has a natural basis as an attraction by people of the same sex – this is found even in some other animals. Homophobia, as in other phobias and discriminatory practises, is a continuing trait…
… of uncouth people belonging to the majority persecuting the minority, and often, as in this case, without rationality.
Is this something for Parliament to spend hours on when we have more pressing matters? Or is this just part of the desperate orchestrated campaign to find ways of getting rid of all major opposition to the PF and create the One-Party state that they crave for?
I have said before, sexuality practised in the realms of privacy by consenting adults should be left as such. What kind of unbridled ignorance do we have in Zambia? How about punishing all the heterosexual deviant behaviour that is carried out in the open – sexual abuse of women, rape, defilement etc;
Homosexuality has a natural basis as an attraction by people of the same sex – this is found even in some other animals. Homophobia, as in other phobias and discriminatory practises, is a continuing trait…
Is this something for Parliament to spend hours on when we have more pressing matters? Or is this just part of the desperate orchestrated campaign to find ways of getting rid of all major opposition to the PF and create the One-Party state that they crave for?
I have said before, sexuality practised in the realms of privacy by consenting adults should be left as such. What kind of unbridled ignorance do we have in Zambia? How about punishing all the heterosexual deviant behaviour that is carried out in the open – sexual abuse of women, r.ape, defilement etc;
Homosexuality has a natural basis as an attraction by people of the same s.ex – this is found even in some other animals. Homophobia, as in other phobias and discriminatory practises, is a continuing trait…
… of uncouth people belonging to the majority persecuting the minority, and often, as in this case, without rationality.
I thought Zambia was a liberal nation already. If it was not , the people who drink their heads off till they drop dead would be incarcerated, because the Bible does not allow this kind of behavior. Correct if I’m wrong.
When people fail to think, articulate or provide solutions on serious matters, they turn to an option they best deem they can make a career out of, such as homophobia or witchcraft.
Even Alliance Partners are homosexual pushers. Read this ****links not permitted***** google africa liberal network *****
This private motion shows how dull Hon. Dr. Martin Malama is. Those organisation he is talking about will include United Nations, European Union, World AIDS Campaign, Human Rights Commission, International HIV/AIDS Alliance, MenEngage Zambia, YALI, South African Embassy, US Embassy, UK Embassy, Israel Embassy, Russian Embassy, Germany Embassy etc.
I suggest he amends the private motion to; to not allow members of parliament to go to countries where Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender rights are protected, and if they do they should be prosecuted, and also to not allow any individuals from any such countries to enter this country.
THE FACT THAT THE DEBATE AND ARGUMENTS WENT ON AND ON MEANS THAT UPND HAS BEEN CAUGHT PANTS DOWN. WHY EVEN DEBATE SOMETHING THAT HH DENIED? I CAN SMELL A RAT HERE.
That smell is your breath dude.
My view is that government must have nothing to do with what goes on in people’s bedrooms i.e what people do, how they do it, how many times they do it or for how long they stay without doing anything. Government should focus on facilitating multidimensional development, qualitatively and quantitatively period.
Absolutely!!!
Next to be discussed is a b-low job, you know.
They might as well pass a law to have cameras installed in every home to watch the kind of se.x that people have.
What did Malama smoke this time? This man was at Ridgeway with my cousin and he is a very well known necrophilia. He was caught twice having sex with a dead body while on call and once with a female study skeleton in his room while still a medical student. So he must be the last person to talk about which whole to venture into se*ually!
Why are UPND supporters so afraid of this, is homosexuality not a danger to Africa’s morals and population? You idioots shock me kikikikikiki.
Dr malama is right we need to ban parties and orgarnisations that promote sodomy and chainama people
transgender is madness of the worst kind,
how can educated people support faeces behaviour such as homosexuals lets protect our land from this madnes
by the way what do homosexuals do, which they call sexual preference hell evil nell evil indeed
Countries supporting homosexual are doing very well political and economically. Zambia government is walking the same way with Zimbabwe of banning and gays or penalizing gay people.Then check poverty in in Zambia and Zimbabwe. Look at South Africa it support gay and lesbians and check take your time and check.South Africa is number one best country in the continent of Africa economically and politically.
Why do some Mps think like their heads are buried in the sand? Let people live freely , homosexuals are human beings just like everyone else, such shallow mindedness should come to an end.most homophobic people have homosexual tendencies or have a family member whose LGBTQ .let live
I hope the US, the EU and South Africa are watching this Malama, please blacklist the ***** and deny him any visa.