Police probing the killing of two men during fracas as HH arrived for questioning

1. The police are probing the killing of two men by the police.

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   • Nde doubter

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   • Felicity Kalunga wondering also

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   • Hogwash

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   • Felicity Kalunga it’s tricky to comprehend surely

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2. Nomba nao mukalamba tachilya ka BF ku nganda, MHSRIP

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   • Fulish comment, result of poor up bringing

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3. Far Q!

4. PF regime kill innocent Zambians as expendables, Kampyongo kills his brother Public prosecutor Nsama Nsama

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5. U hve failed

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6. Rural Logic,
   what you have said is a disgrace.
   It was his choice to eat breakfast at a restaurant, and that is the reason why eateries are licenced and are legal places for people to visit and eat.

   About the fracas, the video footage is not showing any fracas there. The guys who arrived in the police land cruiser or whatever vehicle it was just approached and opened fire on the crowd of unarmed people.

   Chamanyazi ngako!

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7. If the crowd supporting HH was peaceful, you had no right to disperse it and cause fracas which ended in the death of 2 people. You have the blood of Zambians on your hands! In a christian nation!?!

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8. This man has been very unprofessional and a lot of Police Officers are not happy with his conduct. He must be professional and avoid the usual bullying of Kampyongo, the way he ruthlessly follows Kampyongos orders is very sad. Police must not be told what to do by a simple politician. We can’t loose lives needlessly like this

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9. Lungu will go down as the worst case president. What a shame. Man, if people are escorting, just manage them properly and treat the person they are escorting within their rights. The reason people even feel the need to escort is that they do not trust you to enforce the law. For example, had they not come, you planned to arrest HH for 48 hours. You are not smart, ma Grade 7 ati am a cop am a cop. Naka Masters akaku doba pa Copperstone. Ba Pompwe.

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10. Watch them say highly trained UPND sniper killed the unarmed civilians to cause breakdown of law and order

    It is not beyond them to want to outlaw UPND based on this ,

    Lungu is desperate….

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11. Investigate what. Are your investigations going to bring back the lives needlessly lost. The UPND supporters would have made noise but they were not going to harm anybody, why being so petty at the whims of a politician

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12. #Zambian lives matter

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13. This is Mr. Lungu’s Zambia today. Where something as innocent as walking from lunch-break may end in one’s death. Utter chaos. He knows nothing, controls nothing, entirely random, clueless and impotent. Friends, we fought for independence so that the bullets that kill us could come from others Zambians? I don’t think so.

    And we hear endless lamentations that the West is out to get us. No my friends, the killers look like you, worship with you and are relatives.

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14. This is Mr. Lungu’s Zambia today. Where something as innocent as walking from lunch-break may end in one’s death. Utter chaos. He knows nothing, controls nothing, entirely random, clueless and impotent. Friends, we fought for independence so that the bullets that kill us could come from others Zambians? I don’t think so.

    And we hear endless lamentations that the West is out to get us. No my friends, the killers look like you, worship with you and are relatives.

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15. Why in a Christian country they kill people like chicken? Now minister of religious affairs tell what?

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    • Minister of religion? She only comments on nudity.

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16. Killings extremely unnecessary, I knew from the unnecessary tough talk from the Minister of Home Affairs yesterday that would trigger Police brutality going by the robotic nature of the Police , but why kill innocent souls and try to save face, that we are investigating, investigate what when you have killed a person who is un armed and not even a threat. Giving solidarity to an opposition leader is not an offence in any civilized democratic country in the world.

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17. Is it true?
    Home Affairs Minister Stephen Kampyongo, Keizer Zulu and Valden Findley have been identified as the people masterminding the project to destabilise the country through gassing of citizens, Zambia State Intelligence sources have revealed and President Edgar Lungu has been fully briefed.
    Impeccable sources close to the operations have revealed that the whole project planning started sometime last year around October, but they never told President Edgar Lungu.
    Xavier Chungu, as former Director of Intelligence, has been running a parallel intelligence wing mainly using some of his former loyalists within and outside the system.

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18. Don’t even say unruly. These guys were just giving solidarity to their leader which cant be an offence on any given day anywhere in the world.

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19. This is very sad, but all this is manifestation of leadership failure. We must avoid all this at all cost. We have problems in other countries because people have grudges over their killed relatives. Lets live in harmony. Police should never use live ammunition, because there was no any iota of threat to their lives.

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20. Iwe money will not buy you happiness under such situations.the best is to step down.

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21. The crowd was peaceful and this angered the police who expected a kerfuffle. The crowd was shot at for being peaceful. Now they are investigating themselves for their own wicked act. Is this not what we were talking about yesterday, PF being intolerant to divergent views?

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22. I have lived in your country Zambia for 42 years, this has been my home and I shed tears to see how you Zambians are tearing yourselves apart. The tone of your leaders has also noted been helpful at all. Why are you now killing one another, the sanctity of life is too dear to our dear God Almighty and that’s why he gave an instruction that you should not kill. How can Police kill an innocent and unarmed citizen like that, it is my prayer and hope that this event will receive a severe and strong condemnation from the head of state.

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23. That charge they have used against HH is just a backup excuse ,

    they had cooked up more serious charges that would have had HH locked up untill the new year…….

    The highly charged atmosphere made them drop the cooked up bogus charges and use this useless case which is already in the courts…

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24. Shot dead by the police in circumstances unknown to the police in bright sunshine. Is it not just a matter of the police officers concerned turning themselves in?

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25. Arrest this man now…

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26. The Police FORCE is filled with pf cadreS who have no regard for the rule and law.
    If the police who are supposed to protect the people now become their killers, WHERE IS THE ARMY TO INTERVENE?
    YOU GUYS IN THE ARMY,YOU CAN NOT JUST TURN A BLIND EYE TO THE BRUTALITY OF THE pf POLICE!
    ITS HIGH TIME YOU INTERVENED BEFORE MORE INNOCENT LIVES ARE LOST

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27. WHEN I SAID THAT UPND ARE THE MOST VIOLENT PARTY, I WAS RIDICULED BY THE F00LISH UPND MEMBERS. TODAY ONLY THE UPND CADRES AND MEMBERS WERE PRESENT AND LIVES WERE LOST. SO WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT UPND? HOW CAN VIOLENCE AND DEATH BE EVERY WHERE YOU GO? THIS BOY HH HAS GOT BLOOD ON HIS HANDS. I HAVE INTEL ON THIS BEHJND THE KILLING OF THESE TWO INNOCENT SOULS. DO NOT WORRY WE ARE SLOWLY CATCHING UP WITH YOU.

    THE ONLY WAY FOR THE POLICE TO INTERVIEW HH IS BY RAIDING HIS HOME IN THE NIGHT LIKE BEFORE AND GIVING HIM AND HIS GUARDS SOME DIRTY SLAPS.

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28. There is no police brutality. We have been telling you that upnd is building an armed militia. The people responsible for this killing are not the police. The only other who were there are upnd cadres. So what does that tell you? Do not worry the police are investigating and those responsible will pay. In fact their leader is vacariously liable and will face the law. I am in OP offices at the moment and I can assure you that things will be done that have never been done before. If hh thinks he is a man, he will know tonight who is in power. Achilamo chlc0lour uyu

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    • Chipuba ichi

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    • Why did God deny this ful any brain, the chap is supporting extra judicial killings

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29. We never heard any home affairs minister in the past including Aaron Milner, Mainza Chona, Lameck Mangani, Chitalu Sampa, Newstead Zimba ask police to shoot innocent cadres dead, and even when Home Affairs Minister then Newstead Zimba issued the shoot on sight order to Police, he specifically reffered to criminals who had terrorized Lusaka residents in the night and not caders. There are a lot of people who have held these offices in the past and faced similar challenges but never killed innocent citizens.

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30. So when did the court rule that a cader showing solidarity to his leader must be shot dead. Very uzeles

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31. Fuseke……

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32. Some body is killed and the leader is quiet. When George Floyd was killed at least Trump said some thing, here it is business as usual even when a young lady was killed by Police at UNZA, what you call a leader was quiet. No semblance of any leadership, not even pretence

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33. UPND don’t leave LAZ to fight this alone. Join this prosecution. Lusambo and Kampyongo need to be charged based on statements they made yesterday

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34. Kaizer Zulu – stop with your mindless rantings . Two lives have been needlessly lost and you want to spread shallow conspiracy theories. How dull do you think we are? By the way, conspiracy theories can go both ways. What if someone suggested that all this was pre planned that is why a certain someone left town to go on holiday and why some cabinet ministers were prophesying violence? Had Police just stood by and ensured that the crowd remained peaceful as indeed they were, there would have been no need for anyone to get shot!

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35. You’ll now realize why we always tell you to make decisions that are always above board. It’s a very strange coincidence that stray bullets can hit 2 victims right in the head and in those positions. The burden to exonerate yourself is to heavy especially that you’ve failed to tell us who was behind the gassing project. No one will believe you, no matter how credible your investigation

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36. Time to account always comes. How did Idi Amin, Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein end?

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37. This is why the international best practice is to have an independent department of internal affairs, police probing the police, my foot.

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38. We won’t forget all these things….

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39. I doubt the lawyer was gunned down on the way to a restaurant or by the door of a restaurant . In zambia restaurants dont prepare breakfast ONLY LUNCH and no dinner also, H e might have been going to that restaurant fir something else all in all life is lost too bad sure MHSRIP.

40. Here we go again like the Vesper issue the ZP investigating their own incompetence!!

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41. You are probing yourselves….. The police should be probed by another entity because you will just lie yourselves out of a ditch…. Killing your own people shame on you

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42. Very tragic. But the other tragedy of all that has befallen Zambia, is constantly having low lifes like @KZ spewing unbelievables. Even if it is your dirty pro-regime job, this is not a joke anymore. I think such primitive divisiveness needs to be dealt with once and for all. And surely, the end is nigh

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43. I’m totally convinced beyond any shadow of doubt that Kaizar Zulu is a heartless evi1 person. There’s no ounce of empathy in this man’s life, looking at the comment he made above. He’s a stone cold, heartless being. To him, the needless death of two innocent people at the hand of police brutality is justified. KZ has the- devi1 -may- care kind of attitude.

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44. How does a shooting which took place whilst upnd cadres and the zambian police were present become PF or the government’s fault? Are we the police and are we upnd? If you have started killing innocent people how does that become any of our business? For us we just seek justice and order in our country and will support the police in achieving this. You think as OP I don’t know who is behind these killings? Even you as upnd deep down know who is responsible but you bury your heads in ignorance. Your leaders days are numbered

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45. LAZ are wrong to condemn ZP. WHY DID UPND THUGS AND HOOLIGANS GO, IN BUSES, TO THE SITE THEY WERE WARNED NOT TO GO TO PRIOR TO THIS INCIDENT???????? Every citizen can be summoned by ZP at anytime if it borders on their area of work, is hh a special human being??? Let ZP do their work and inform the public on their findings. Chena chi kainde had supper with his children while 2 families mourn tonight, chi shetani chi hh, you should’ve told those supporters to stay away!!!!!

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46. Lie detector you must be liar because no investigation has been concluded yet for you to determine that the police were involved in those shootings, and even if it is found that the police were involved whilst sad, how does that become the governments fault? The police are independent and make their own decisions regardless of the statements of any politician. Why would police kill a state prosecutor? Think about it. Your f00lish leader has everything to do with this and you keep burying your head in your tribal ignorance. Let me tell you that this is the end of HH. You heard it from me first.

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47. You the PiG and yours masters are responsible. Time will come when u will be caged for the crimes u are committing today.

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48. @Kaizar Zulu – Stop lying. You sound like a retard, as per usual. We have all seen the footage. There was no violence for the UPND crowd. The police fired on the ZAMBIAN people with LIVE AMMUNITION. The police KILLED ZAMBIANS because they held a different view to the President. Their blood is on his hands.

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49. You are accused of stealing and you respond by saying I will investigate myself if I stole. Honestly, does this make any sense? Are we fools?

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50. Foolish IG

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51. It’s obvious trained police were firing blanks and teargas while the overzealous upndead crooks where firing live ammunition. We will wait for the investigation report. Police know their guns.
    Besides these killer shots could not have come from stray bullets. They seem targeted
    H² is a terrorist. He can’t f00l us.
    There is chaos in the upnd camp.
    I beseech you comrades, Stay the hell away from h² functions.
    Besides, police guided.
    Nakuba, chimpwena fye.

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52. UPND cadres should have stayed away knowing very well we are being ruled by the most brutal regime in living memory. I swear these people are able to kill just to retain power. Kaya next year!

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53. Twaliitambapo Movie iyi.
    Police will not be dented and deterred. If we have rogue elements in the police, these should be upndead sick puppies driving the dead camp’s sick agenda.
    But this one incident seem like gunshots from the upndead camp. So miscalculating, devious and evil.
    Why can’t this kleptopyscopath² stay like a normal citizen. Like civil.
    Why does he always frequent courts and police.
    He is a highly unruly individual not fit to occupy plot 1.

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54. How many times have we heard this.

55. You will face the law next year as you will be going

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56. That’s the dumbest statement coming from the police!!! Can we please restore professionalism in the service!? Failed to prob so many criminal activities undertaken by PF, why probe a criminal activity you committed??

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57. They are not capable of doing any forensic work. The scene is already contaminated. Anyway, when you buy a gun expect death, the same goes to those police vehicles. The government bought them with intent. Now that they have had a little practice, expect death. HH on the other hand does not need human shields every time he attends court, stop following this clown blindly. Those two lives can not be brought back and will probably be forgotten as soon as he enters his mansion.

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58. It amazes me how you all call yourselves christian country with such shallow and evil minds. I wish you could just stop using the lord’s name in vain and go back to being who you are because the world is laughing at your hypocrisy. How does the so called law enforcement in a so called peaceful country go with such force and with live ammunition as if the country has been invaded by a military army ?? There are many unstable countries around the world where they could have gone to exercise their trigger happy minds. Why kill your fellow citizens all in the name of wanting to hold on to power??KZ you are the biggest ***** that i have ever come across. You have no empathy and may your life be full of disappointments in the coming year. You are supposed to condemn this police brutality,…

59. Behind every person that is shot is an individual that pulls the trigger. We have to start knowing who pulled the trigger. The fellow officers know, CCTV cameras can help too and even individuals and journalists. We need to start exposing pictures of officers involved in such illegalities. People can not continue hiding in Police Uniforms while conducting criminal activities. They just ruined lives…someone’s child, dad, husband and friend is gone. It shouldn’t be something that ends with statements and apologies.

60. @KZ your response to Lie Detector’s comments are interesting. On the face of it that seems to make sense. You ought to know also that if the police hadn’t come to confront the peaceful crowd, no life would have been lost, a fact. Police did not act on their own, just today Kapyongo has admitted, saying ‘No more blood would be shed going forward’. What does this mean to you? It means he ordered the police to do what they did and now he is saying he will not do that again. The police are not independent in Zambia. That is Government’s fault. In the past some unfortunate PF cadres were caught wearing police uniform. There are many more in the police force (not service). Why would police kill a state prosecutor, you asked? A state prosecutor does not wear his or her uniform (robe, gown,…

61. A state prosecutor does not wear his or her uniform (robe, gown, collar or wig) in the street, so the police had no way of knowing. The PF Government is responsible for the death of those two Zambians.

62. The most depraved characters in humanity @KZ and @Zambian citizen. In the midst of reality, objectivity, common sense and being humane, the two have constantly revealed to us that they are from the far flung planet of imb.ecility and underdeveloped brains. You, ECL, cronies and cohort, are the only ones responsible for this atrocity and you will be the only ones responsible for the consequences.

63. In a democracy ,the police shoul have have stepped asided an allowed an independent body to allowed invstigate them .The man incharge of the country is busy enjoying free things and after twenty four hours , he wakes up and remembers that there was a shooing that led to two deaths .He then issues a hollow statement .Zambia deserves better not these people who have run down the economy .

64. The shootings were pre-planned. The idea is to implicate HH, arrest him,poison him and jail him. They want to make sure that HH is not on the 2021 Ballot Paper. They want to eliminate HH by Hook and Crook b4 the 2021 Presidential and Parliamentary Elections . The Police will implicate HH and a Third Force but they don’t have evidence. They will raid HH’s House at night and plant evidence to implicate him in the Shootings. The writing is on the wall.

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