Lusaka Lawyer Kelvin Bwalya Fube has warned that the PF will find themselves mulimwamoneni (quagmire) if they insist on fielding President Edgar Lungu in the 2021 general elections.
And Mr Bwalya called for the dismal of Home Affairs Minister Stephen Kampyongo following the two shootings in Lusaka last week.
Speaking on the Hot Seat radio programme on Hot FM on Thursday, Mr. Bwalya insisted that President Lungu is ineligible to stand in 2021.
He warned that the PF will end up without a candidate if they stick with President Lungu’s candidacy.
Mr Bwalya said it is sad that President Lungu has allowed himself to be misled by individuals such as Brian Mundubile who he says has never argued a case in court.
He challenged President Lungu to personally take the case of his eligibility to Concourt and wait for its determination.
Mr Bwalya maintained that the Concourt never pronounced itself on President Lungu’s eligibility but merely addressed the issue of a term.
And Mr Bwalya says Home Affairs Minister Stephen Kampyongo should be removed from his position.
He has accused Mr Kampyongo of failure to reason properly hence resorting to the use to force against those who feel suppressed by the state.
Mr. Bwalya said too many lives have been lost at the hands of Mr Kampyongo and he should take responsibility for these deaths.
He has also opposed the recent reshuffles made by President Lungu in the Police Service saying the only solution would be to fire Mr. Kampyongo because he is the minister in charge of Police.
Stop issuing empty threats. Act now. When else?
KBF FOR YOU BA PF.STOP MISLEADING YOURSELVES NABA LUNGU.WE HAVE HH AS UPND
I am too hangover to comment on this silly man’s rubbish. How can you say such rubbish on the first day of the year
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PF must take the advice from a preffesiinal seriiusly! They may end up without a candidate.
Data.
What mwamoneni when the Concourt ruling is clear!
Sitali Simui which clear? Lisholi.
Sitali Simui just imagine ayi
Nah Sindila but the ruling was sorted out..why should you call someone lisholi wena… You like it or not he is standing and winning the 2021 elections…
Daniel Tembo they are so afraid of him…so they want someone who is less of a threat in popularity..but apa pave baitaya
Lisa Liywali insultants
Sitali Simui which ruling?
Sitali Simui you will believe him when it’s done.
Sitali Simui if that was case then what the purpose of ill-fated Bill10?
simple held office twice or I say voted twice two terms no third term in my country KK was the guy to do that in this country and we are not going back to past but we learnt from the past hence no third term
Sitali Simui which clear you don’t know na concourt bakushimikila yakosa na muchinwa at concourt is Clear
Ben Kauzeni with or without bill10 the highest court of appeals on constitutional matters has given the judgement on that
Mweeni Joseph if that’s what you think then I can’t change your mind…if they only tell me about it why are you even bothered to respond to my statement. If I don’t use my mouth do you want me to use my anus or penis ??
Sibale Alaska let’s wait for that day. You been so lied to that someone will stop him from standing.just prepare yourself for another loss. Let come back to this chat in August
Sitali Simui very good
A stubborn fly went to the grave with corpse
Ben Kauzeni we shall come back to this chat at the end of August
Sitali Simui wena chikala which ruling is clear?
This is funny. A PF cadre thinking they understand the concourt ruling better than an actual lawyer.
Sitali Simui KBF fo U ati the concourt had already ruled kikikikiki
Nah Sindila Ki lisholi
Liywalii Matakala chikala ca hao ka???
Mwimanenwa Kamona the fun part is u a UPND cadre thinks you can out rule what the courts have declared
Chella Siame lisholi kiwena
Mwimanenwa Kamona probably your mind is dwarfed… you think those in the Concourt are accounts or dunderheads like you leader whose only manifesto are insults???
Sitali Simui dull cadre the concourt ruled on the definition of a term and not on the eligibility. Read the actual judgment and grow that microscopic brain.
ECL is not eligible to stand for this years general elections. Everybody including the ConCourt know that.
However ,Zambia is now a lawless Banana republic, the same ConCourt will do ECL a favour by grossly misinterpreting the constitution.
Whether Lungu stands or not, PF should be purged!
Too many lives have been lost.
As if the gassing of citizens was not a warning of worse to come.
Mwamoneni
Alikwata Amano umuntu uyu
Kaisar Zulu if you are patriotic as you sound from all your comments that you post why did your president fire you if you as patriotic as you sound. You must have done something to warrant your dismissal. For now you think you are a free person, you can be assured that even PF return the power your turn to face the music is still round the corner whether that is after 2026 you turn will come so you can be excited for the time being until that time comes silly you !!!!!
BaKBF isn’t he the man who was expelled from PF??
Ackim Michelo he is. He’s trying to be relevant.
If he has so much brains and is confident on his candidacy why does he not open his own party? Surely if what you are saying is truth, people will follow you wherever you go. Why is he adamant and clinging on to our party which does not agree with him. All structures have agreed on the candidacy of ECL. Washala weka. Go join upnd, you will soon come back when they show you their true tribal colours. Go take care of your son in diaspora there in America. He is a criminal
This is a timely warning from KBF. there are fundamental reasons Mr Kelvin Bwalya Fube has examined in law with its interpretation as a competent Constitutional lawyer.
Two pieces of advice to Zambians:
1 – ECL will be barred from lodging his presidential nomination papers – consequence – Wmamoneni – violence – more Zambian deaths
2- Let Constitutional court resolve this stand-off with Zambians by determining ECL eligibility to contest 2021 elections now than later.
This is my pro bono advice
U are not part of pf family u were suspended bwana
KBF still considers himself as a PF member??? I Wonder
Just put your assdown
This is has been closed by concourt naimwe!!! Bring relevant matters such as high prices of essential commodities.
From plot one to chimbokaila
The UPND fear president Lungu. They can defeat all PF MPs easily, except the Kabwata ones. Kabwata crooks like their MP crooked lubinda. He is just like them. As for Lungu his character holds well for a nation like Zambia. If only we could change the whole opposition and current PF MPs all would be well.
Wanting to score from the terraces.
Fube is a bitter, worse still his friends in PF don’t want him any nearby or anything
Let me say it preemptively mwe: Tepapa, mwamoneni…
….called for the dismal…
Quacks !!
KBF STILL MORE HE IS IN THE SYSTEM YOU WILL SEE PF IS DIVIDED
Hehehe…..this time around the baby will indeed be thrown away together with the bath water. Africans are inherently not democratic in nature. 2021 is here,no more kicking the can down the road. All parties need to hold free & fair conventions and some will emerge deeply divided for sure. Sole candidacy gimmick will not work, just follow your party Constitutions. Nayo nayo
KBF has a point. In the USA Donald Trump appointed most of the Supreme Court Judges hoping it would reverse Joe Biden’s massive Election Win. In the absence of Electoral Fraud the SC has refused to reverse Biden’s Election Win. In Zambia, ECL appointed all Concourt Judges and he is assuming these Judges will grant him a Third Term. If Zambia Concourt acts Professionally and Objectively they will Rule that ECL has already been Elected and Sworn in twice and cannot stand for a Third Term. After Nominations are closed PF runs the Risk of not having a Presidential Candidate in 2021 if ECL is disqualified by Concourt after the Nominations are closed. ECL is making a grave error to assume that Concourt is State Captured and therefore will Rule in his favour. What if Concourt Rules…
There is a reason why the brain has no eyes and ears! Don’t only use your eyes and ears. Let the brain do the job for you.
This is useless political rhetoric. KBF is trying to remain relevant before the PF goes to its convention and rubber stamps ECL; After that no one will remember KBF. If anything, I dare you KBF to approach the ConCourt and bring up this issue-you will be liable for contempt, you clown…
KBF is a typical political conman.
Uyu afwaya inshi taumfwa court ruling
You can judge KBF is a better lawyer 100 % than lungu…..
KBF understands the law , Lungu is either guilty of comming the executions or is a very du.ll lawyer who only knows stealing…..
Ecl beat hh when he was not known in 2015 so he is a threat to them
@Spaka: if KBF is a better lawyer, let him raise up the issue again at the ConCourt and let us see what happens to him…..
Antonio mwanza AKA Zambian citizen
KBF does not have to take up the matter with CC , there are a raft of lawyers lining up to do that…..
Antonio mwanza, we shall see
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It is as clear as water that ECL has been elected and sworn in twice and cannot be elected and sworn in for the 3rd Time. It is dangerous for PF to rely on “State Captured ” Concourt Judges granting ECL his Third Term wish. What if Concourt Rules that ECL cannot stand for a Third Term? Nominations will have been closed and PF will find itself in KBF’s “mulimwamoneni” without a Presidential Candidate for 2021. PF should publicly get assurance from Concourt that ECL is entitled to run in 2021 b4 Nomination. ECL should learn from the fate of Donald Trump in the USA. Trump thought that his Conservative leaning Supreme Court would conserve his Presidency by reversing Biden’s win. Well the US Supreme Court has dismissed Trump’s fraudulent wishes. Food for thought for PF and ECL.
Who was suppose to appoint ConCourt judges?? The Constitution is very clear on that, why upnd donkeys sing about this daily is quite retrogressive. They further focus on calling ECLs candidacy a third term bid, again the Constitution is vivid on this one-key word “term”. How does the Constitution define a term?? Check these points and you will realize that KBF is just blabbing.
I do not believe he is a lawyer who can give the correct position of law. Look at how he ‘disgracefully’ misled Zambia to allow misters to stay in office illigally in 2016.
Now he is misleading us again to believe that he still qualifies to stand as President in 2021.
Article 106 (3) says
” A person who has twice held office as President is not
eligible for election as President.”
Which part of that quote does he not understand ?
The law is not talking about ”term” but ” twice held office as President”.
This man does not qualify to stand in 2021.
Zambians, do not be misled!!!!!!!!!!!
LUSAKA TIMES – 06.04.2016
The day Edgar Lungu stole client’s money
6 April 2016 08:01
RULING OF THE LAW ASSOCIATION OF ZAMBIA AGAINST MR. EDGAR CHAGWA LUNGU
On 16th April 2009, the Legal Practitioners Committee (LPC) of the Law Association of Zambia (LAZ) received a complaint from a Ms Wendy Kanyanta against Mr Edgar Chagwa Lungu claiming he had illegally obtained fees of K36,080.42 from compensation meant for her despite already being paid costs of K40,000.00 from the unsuccessful party, Lafarge Cement, who were her former employers.
Both parties were summoned before the LPC on 24th July 2009 and Mr Lungu was asked to respond to the accusation. Mr Lungu admitted having obtained the money on the understanding that they were legal costs due to him for the services rendered and…
I really fail to understand why its difficult to realize that a term may be 5 years and indeed it is but it can be cut short by death or resignation or even impeachment. That is why the CC did not rule that ECL is eligible. ECL was elected and sworn in twice as president. Even the application form clearly states that you need to swear that you have not been elected twice to the office of president. People even if you are a hardcore cadre, its very clear that ECL is not eligible to stand. Period…PF can field Lusambo or Steven Police. They can even field Sunday Chanda or KZ (Including the UK based fake KZ who usually yaps from a council flat). Otherwise it will be Mwamoneni. The threat of violence will not do because the TRUE ARMED FORCES (ARMY, ZAF,ZNS + MUSHILI BOYS) and the PEOPLE can…
The threat of violence will not do because the TRUE ARMED FORCES (ARMY, ZAF,ZNS + MUSHILI BOYS) and the PEOPLE can…CRUSH PF THUGS EASILY
PF is way past its shelf life. It has expired
Well, let it be known that the PF have a firm plan on the day of nomination to block access to the High Court to make sure none challenges the candidature of there Presidential Candidate, BUT THIS HAS ALREADY LEAKED OUT AND IT IS KNOWN.
@Zambia Citizen, what court contempt will KBF committ since there has been no judgement from Con court over eligibility of president Lungu to contest for the third time. Check mate KBF had a point. Mwaimoneni.
Instead of just arguing whether EC Lungu is eligible to stand or not, please read the Constitution of Zambia, the 2016 one, Article 106 (3) together with Article 106 (a) and (b). DID EC LUNGU l RULE FOR MORE THAN 3 YRS WHEN HE FINISHED OFF THE TERM LEFT BY SATA IN 2015? IN NOT THEN HE IS ELIGIBLE TO STAND IN 2021. IT IS ONLY HIS POPULARITY THAT SHOULD WORRY THE PF.
What did concout say about a term? & the answer to this question is the answer to whether president lungu can stand or not.
KBF Your Statement Is Plainly Accurate, I Salute You
I Salute You Sir, Your Statement Is Plainly Accurate…… With Proffetional……
The eligibility question should be tested in court. Good thing to do so that the constitution can be interpreted by competent court. If Lungu doesn’t qualify it is a PF problem. I therefore, see no need to occupy everyone’s time. When the time comes the court will make a pronouncement on the matter, kwamana, kwatha, chapwa, Chamana, kwasila, …..
Bloggers insulting each chill, you won’t influence the outcome. You are wasting your time and money. Invest both in progressive endeavors or discourse!!
Muna Ndulo! Can you help?
Especially that the Term of Office qualification only applies to a Running Mate Vice-President or their substitute who takes over the Vacancy left by a Substantive President!
Has Pres Lungu ever been a Running-Mate Vice-President? The answer is, No!
So, where does his Eligibility Coming from, having been Elected Twice, and having Held Office Twice???