It’s a Waste of Time Talking about President Lungu’s Eligibility to Contest the 2021 General Elections

1. A WASTE OF TIME MAYBE
   BUT IF PEOPLE FREELY STRONGLY ABOUT IT WHY NOT LET THEM VOICE THEIR CONCERNS
   IT IS THEIR DEMOCRATIC RIGHT … AND IF YOU FEEL YOU RIGHT WHAT ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT AND WHY KEEP BRINGING IT UP ?

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2. Indeed it’s a waste of time, Lungu isn’t eligible to contest the coming election and we’ll show him that through the ballot. However there will be consequences for bleaching the Constitution for himself and those that will facilitate it should he force himself on the ballot. Our Courts are equal to the task

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3. PF also know that Edgar Lungu is not eligible to contest. They are just pretending because they are trying to protect their jobs. If they choose another person they will certainly lose their positions. Yes the court may have ruled that he’s ‘eligible’ but that court consists of people who are also human, prone to error and manipulation. Why does the PF insist on sticking to Edgar Lungu as the sole candidate? Don’t they have other capable people. These cash donations we are witnessing almost every day is proof of desperation. Did Mwanawasa ever allow cash donations of any sort? Desperate people do desperate things

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4. So PF is full of uneducated f00ls,ah?
   Winango azalira come 12th August,2021!
   The constitution is very clear on this 3rd term issue…Muyopa chani kansi?

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5. Giving lungu an undeserved and illegal term in office is sentencing Zambia to death.

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6. Mumbi Phiri is hallucinating as usual. With the high cost of living, corruption and general unhappiness how will ECL win the Election by 70%? People are Hungry and Angry for Change while PF Cadres are all over flashing bundles of money to buy votes. People will vote 4 change. By August 12,2021 prices of consumer goods will be unaffordable to the Common Man. As for ECL’s Eligibility, ECZ and Concourt will have to endorse ECL’s Third Term. For now the Republican Constitution is clear. “A person who has been elected and sworn in twice is not eligible to stand as President” ECZ will need to certify Lungu’s PF Presidential Candidature while Concourt will rule on the Constitutionality.

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7. “……in the history of Zambia, President Lungu is the only head of state who cut his salary by 20 percent to give to the vulnerable….”

   When went to state House, he declared k1.8 million , after 18 months in office he declared $2.1 million , can you tell us what business he has that gives those returns ??

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8. Mumbi Phiri lives in a Fantasy world. Maybe she has taken some weed and is intoxicated by huge bundles of printed money she is carrying. How does high inflation, high prices, Hunger, Anger,corruption, mismanagement of the Economy etc make ECL Popular and Electable? Its all wishful thinking by Madam Phiri. Time will tell.

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9. Why don’t you let the concourt decide as for Chomba he knows no one can give him a with his fake papers apart from Lazy Lungu!!

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10. Mumbi Phiri should read the Republican Constitution or seek legal advice on the Eligibility issue. The Republican Constitution states: “A person who has held office twice as President is not eligible for Election as President “. ECL was elected and sworn in twice in 2015 and 2016 and therefore doesn’t qualify for a Third Term. Mumbi Phiri should say that ECL will stand as a PF Presidential Candidate in 2021 becoz he will buy his Eligibility from ECZ and Concourt. Period. Kwamana!

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11. On ECL’s Eligibility Mrs Mumbi Phiri is wrong to say the Courts have cleared the issue. Concourt did not specifically Rule on ECL’s Eligibility becoz that issue was never brought b4 the Court. However when ECL is nominated as a PF Presidential Candidate in May 2021 somebody will challenge his Nomination. The Republican Constitution says a President who has been elected and sworn in twice is not eligible to stand for the third time. In spite of this bar it is generally thought that ECL will use his Powers of Incumbency to buy and secure his Eligibility from ECZ and Concourt in the 2021 Elections. Sad but true!

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12. Why don’t you let the concourt decide as for Chomba he knows no one can give him a with his f ake certificate papers apart from Lazy Lungu!!

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13. Ba Mummy, Ba Mumbi Phiri. Please be respectful of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Do not wear the Holy Rosary of Our Blessed Mother, Mary when you speak about politics using unpleasant and unpalatable language. The Rosary is not an accessory. Thank you.

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    • Now you are Saint Peter aka Mwala…. Dont judge others for you will be judged….

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14. Some people think they will take the same case to the same and get different results. The court will just say that case has already been determined. Remember on constitutional matters there is no appealing to another court.

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15. Pf must go or zambia dies and we will be suffering even more

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16. @Jossie Mwala
    ALL POLITICANS START PRAISING THE LORD WHEN THEY GET TO OFFICE
    EVEN KAIZER ZULU A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN INSULTING OTHERS WIVES AND CHILDREN
    HOW DOES THAT COME ABOUT ??
    ITS JUST A CONVIENENCE TO THEM AND THEY THING ITS A GATE PASS TO THE PEARLY GATES
    STUP*D OF THEM

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17. Every opposition knows PF with ECL as President will pull through…advise concentrate on winning seats in Parliament rather than trying to top him out…Scenario analysis will help most to invest their time and money wisely

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18. When lungu first went to statehouse , he decleared $360,000 , after 18 months in office at his second swearing in , he declared $2.1 million……….

    If he is not a corrupt theif ,

    tell us where he got that money ?????

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19. Upnd know they are losing. So they have all the time in this world to waste on such nonsense

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20. On Eligibility ECL is on record saying “In 2015 and 2016 u voted me out but I am still here and in 2021 and beyond I will still be there”. So ECL is confident that ECZ and Concourt will endorse his Eligibility in 2021 . Election Rigging is not guaranteed and has dire consequences. With an Economy in dire straits a violent and disputed Election in August 2021 will have far reaching consequences. The writing is on the wall.

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21. Mumbwe Phiri is right, let us not waste time talking about Lungu who has already held office twice and does not qualify to stand or go for a third term. Let us be talking about HH, Freddie Membe and Harry Kalaba. Personally I dislike HK and CK for the role they played to make an illegal president.

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22. May be the people will may their wish known on him .How on earth can a minister in a country which is balancing it’s books on borrowed money afford to buy an helicopter ? Imbuto balilya .

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23. May be the people will make their wish known on him .How on earth can a minister in a country which is balancing it’s books on borrowed money afford to buy an helicopter ? Imbuto balilya .Even kaloba balilya .

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24. Lungu,

    50 innocent civilians were lynched and burned to death by fellow Zambians, under your watch , for the first time in our illustrious history,

    and you watched the murder unfold hoping UPND will get the blame …….

    Only the intervention of foreign diplomats forced you to act when they called a meeting with you………

    Don’t you think Zambians deserve answers to that bloodied spot in our history ????

    We need answers, least we forget…..

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25. Everybody including PF agrees that in terms of Article 106 (3) of the Republican Constitution ECL doesn’t qualify for a Third Term in 2021. KBF and Col Panji Kaunda who are Members of PF agree that Lungu has been elected and sworn in twice in 2015 and 2016. ECL is determined to breach the Constitution and illegally and unconstitutionally stand 4 a Third Term. Zambians will punish him for this at the Ballot Box. Rigging or no Rigging ECL is going. Should ECL conduct a violent and disputed Election in August 2021 International Sanctions will await him. Zambia will become another Zimbabwe or Uganda. The writing is on the wall.

26. What other development will UPND bring, start anew?

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27. Mrs Phiri is wishing away the Eligibility issue which will arise as soon as Nominations are closed. ECL’s Eligibility will be Petitioned and Concourt will have to pass a Verdict on this issue. We hope Concourt will Professionally consider ECL’s Eligibility in terms of 106 (3) of the Republican Constitution. All that ECL and PF can hope for is that The State Captured Concourt will Rule in his favour. All eyes on ECZ and Concourt.

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28. THERE ARE SOME PRIVATE POLLS OUT THERE AND IT APPEARS UPND IS AHEAD
    NOTE !! ALL THE VENDORS FLYING PF FLAGS ETC ARE NOT EVEN REGISTERED TO VOTERS
    SO THE PF IS READING THE MOOD INCORRECTLY

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29. LETS STOP THE INSULTS LETS FORGET ALL POLITICAL PARTIES
    LET’S GET BACK TO NORMAL
    JUST SEEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA ??
    LET’S VOTE FOR ALI BABA AS HE ONLY HAD 40 THIEVES
    A WIN WIN SITUATION FOR EVERYONE

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30. According to this lady and PF, the Presidential Empowerment Fund is Rungu`s personal money or PF money, and the people of Zambia should be grateful?…absolutely non.se.nce.
    “….the party has not stopped anyone from challenging President Lungu at the forthcoming General Conference as long as they are members of the party and qualify.”, The heap of manure this lady can produce, is just unbelievable !! The PF members who echo such statements, must be ret.ards.

    Yes, you are building whatever….., but note that the beneficiaries of the development are those awarded contracts. Development should not be focused on structures, but should also concern ways to enable ordinary families have 3 meals per day. You don’t do that by dishing out Cash

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31. Lungu is not eligible to stand in the 2021 elections cause he was
    1) elected twice
    2)Sworn in twice
    3)Held office twice
    Just because some concourt judges will be compromised does not mean he is eligible to stand.
    Just watch this space

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32. True As # independent above says.

    If lungu has not held office twice , why has he declared his assets twice ??

    First when he first went to statehouse , declaring $360,000,

    then 18 months later declaring $2.1 million ??

    For now Put aside the stealing this reveals ,

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33. I fail to understand when the Constitutional Court has already cleared the matter, why the debate comes up again and again? I think people have ample time to waste on stale issues.

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34. Zambians are known as peace loving people. We are law abiding and God fearing people. We can’t imagine, even in our wildest of dreams, to surpass or violate any law of the land. We have full respect for the judiciary. But since last few days, Hakainde Hichilema and his goons are attacking the judiciary of Zambia. Though the apex judiciary has cleared air on Second Term of President Edgar Lungu, Hichilema is spreading false information about it and creating confusion among us.

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35. HH and UPND should stop confusing the people. It won’t help. We know the truth and whom to vote. Instead of these tricks, he should concentrate on campaign.

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36. You appear to be an educated man who can read and write English. I would request you to read the judgement once again very carefully. Understand it. If you can’t, consult a lawyer. He will tell explain it to you.

37. You need to read the judgement of Constitutional Court carefully. It has already said that ECL is in first full term in the office. Those celebrating the falsehood that President Edgar Lungu is not eligible to contest 2021 General Elections are in fool’s paradise. The selfish opposition leader is taking them for a ride. The Constitution of Zambia is the supreme and no one can surpass it. Those day dreaming need to wake up and smell the coffee. According to Article 106 (3) and (6), a presidential term of office that ran from 25 January 2015 to 13 September 2016 can’t be considered as full term, as it is less than three years. Even the constitutional court, in its judgment has said that the Presidential term of office that ran from 25th January 2015 to 13th September 2016 and straddled two…

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38. Let us leave it to the party, whether PF is full of f00ls or not. If you are so confident that you know the law better than judges, why don’t you file a case and prove your point? Commenting here won’t prove your point.

39. You doubt the capacities of the judges! Here you are not ready to accept the judgement on the presidential term of ECL but you commend the same court for judgement on illegal occupation of office by some ministers and order to pay back the salaries! It is nothing but mediocrity. As far as matter of ECL’s candidature is concerned, you should be the last person to comment on that. Did anyone question your master HH, why he is not allowing anyone else in his party, even to speak and why it is only HH who interacts with media every time? You will not find anywhere to hide, if people started asking questions…

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40. People are free to voice their opinions on the matter until it was being debated. Now that the court has settled it, people should stop discussing, it would be contempt of court to wreck it up again and again.

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41. At one point this Mumbi Phiri said on radio that the old guard who have been in parliament for a long time must pave way for young ones, completely blank on how democracy works. People have the right to choose who they want to choose, there is nothing like paving way in a democracy, the peoples choice matter.

42. Mrs Phiri is hiding behind a finger on Lungu’s Eligibility. Lungu’s Eligibility remains a Constitutional issue and ECZ will have to consider this issue seriously when certifying his Nomination. If ECZ certifies ECL’s Nomination inspite of its illegality and unconstitutionality only then will he stand and then Zambians will have a final say at the Ballot Box. If ECL and Lungu rig the 2021 Election then Zambia will become ungovernable and an illegitimate Lungu will have a tough time Ruling Zambia. In Uganda and Zimbabwe recently EU and the USA Govts have already imposed Sanctions for violent,rigged and disputed Elections. Zambia will be next and punitive Sanctions will be imposed on Lungu and his Cabal. An illegitimate Lungu can forget about an IMF Cash Bailout. The future for…

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43. A waste of time to talk, huh?

    So much for humble and listening…

44. I understand that even before we consider the controversy of the third term the PF have already broken provisions of their own constitution. It is a very interesting state of affairs. They will be taking each other to court while others take them to court also…

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45. Just wait mum time is coming

46. The only time Concourt will consider ECL’s Eligibility is in May 2021 after ECZ has certified his Nomination. After Certification of ECL’s Nomination any Citizen/Voter can challenge the Certification by Petitioning the Nomination at Concourt. Concourt will have to consider ECL’s Certification in terms of the Republican Constitution. The Constitution is very clear that ECL has been elected, held office and sworn in twice in 2015 and 2016 and therefore legally and constitutionally is not entitled to stand for the Third Time. Concourt will be breaching the Republican Constitution if it approves ECL’s Eligibility. Should ECL steal the Third Term Zambians will deal with him accordingly. The writing is on the wall.

47. Kaya!

48. We know he has read the law and will hand over to a successor in June. Prepare for a marathon marketing of your new commodity if you will not be fighting amongst yourselves.

49. “He has the right to get that money and give it to his relatives or children to spend it however they want,”
    Does he have relatives? As for children, we know that Tasila has a lot of money.

50. no electricity in woodlands!!! LUNGU MUST GO

51. Is it only me who thinks any law written for the benefit of governance for the people but constructed in language that raises more dust among “learned” legal minds when it gets to interpretation! There seems to be more controversy of academic arguments nature than the ease of understanding on the streets, such is a useless law! Me thinks it’s time when laws are written in straight forward simple everyday use language that is straight to the point in construction of sentences than the confusing “Article XZ, section U read with paragraph TV of subsection PI of article LG ‘quote’….”

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52. Mrs Mumbi Phiri should be reminded that ECL stealing a Third Term is a very serious Constitutional matter. Chiluba wanted a Third Term and he was stopped. Now ECL want to illegally and unconstitutionally steal a Third Term. Will Zambians allow ECL to breach our Republican Constitution? ECL has been elected, held office and sworn in twice in 2015 and 2016. So No illegal and unconstitutional Third Term for him in 2021.

53. What has happened to to comment session? Ba LT chabe

54. Uwafitala akaimwena

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