Chikondi Foundation President Bishop John Mambo has advised government to come up with an economic recovery plan that will help companies such as the Zambian Airways.

Bishop Mambo says there is need for government to come up with economic measures that will help Zambian Airways to recover from its operational problems and ensure that sustainability in the operations of the company.

The Lusaka based clergy told ZANIS in an interview in Lusaka yesterday that it was sad that some companies in the country were suspending operations when the global economic and financial crunch was at its peak.

He said there is an urgent need for government to work out modalities that would help the local airline to recover as it had an important role to play in the country’s economic development agenda.

Bishop Mambo observed that if the local airline was helped to recover from its problems it could play a paramount role in helping the country to mitigate the effects and challenges that may be associated from the economic and financial down turn.

He said that the airlines suspension of its operation would have negative implications on the Zambian economy as it was a growing economy.

Bishop Mambo further said that the suspension of the airlines operation could have been avoided had the government intervened in the matter.

Bishop Mambo, who is also former Church of God Regional Overseer, said that since the airline was a strategic courier, the Zambian government would have emulated other countries in the world that had dealt with the industry and helped the airline find a lasting solution to the problems affecting the airline industry.

He described the suspension of the airline operations as a tragedy in the country’s airline industry adding that there was an urgent need for government to put in place extra remedial measures to sustain the airline operations and protect the jobs of workers in the company.

Bishop Mambo has since appealed to government to ensure that the operations of Zambian airways were sustained as most Zambians depend on its services.

last week , Communications and Transport Minister Dora Siliya had informed the nation that government had not received official report from the airline on the suspension of its operations.

Last week the Airline suspended its operations citing among other issues high fuel costs which has hampered its operations.

ZANIS/TK/MKM/ENDS

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  1. I doubt if the goverment will come to Zambian Airways rescue. This whole story is political. Someone somewhere is smiling about its downfall. We shall see..

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  2. Government can buy equity in zambian airways in order to save the over 200 jobs. Nchito brothers and Fred won’t be the ones who will suffer as a result of he closure

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  3. we are lacking proper leadership in zed at the moment, Nyama Soya, Teta, Mulongoti and other clowns

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  4. What wrong with this Bishop, looks like he is on a headline warpath. Lets set the record straight, ZA problems are not MMD’s fault, neither are they political. This is simple, pure bad management and timing. Bad times will always hit the business environment to shake out fake and poorly managed companies like ZA from the system. That is the core principles of free market economy. Now even the comprised SATA has jumped on this bus.

    ZA has many options open to them. Let them sell a stake to raise cash. $30 million debt is a lot of money. Do you know how many hospitals & schools we can build with that? Let ZA go and raise cash elsewhere, the govt has no cash to bail out private companies.

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  5. What a wrong and out of context example Mr bishop. Those campanies being bailed out in the USA are Listed companies meaning that the public, insuarance companies and pension funds have a stake.in other words those companies are owned by the public through the stock market. ZA is not a listed company and its wholLy owned by 4 people. In what public interest are you going to use Tax payers money to bail out such a company, Whats guarantee that the bailout money wont be swallowed in debt? And who told the Bishop that ZA employs 200 people. All pilots where foreigners while most other workers where contractural employees. By the way Zambezi airline is advertising for aviation jobs.

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  6. Ba Bishop imwe!! Yaba. That is wishful thinking nomba. Blaming the govt over ZA’s mismanagent is off-side. Its like asking the neighbour to discipline your wife because she bought rice instead of mealie meal!
    Ba nyamata ku ZA thought they were smart. You see, running an Airline and being a newspaper editor are two different things, ka. Some of those chaps have been biting more than they can chew. Bailing out kwena, awee, it Kazent!!!! (can’t work). 😮

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  7. I dont agree with the Bishop and also what to differ to # 7. I also wish that # 11 could get his facts on the ZA Human Resource correct before attemping to give us figures.

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  8. Apologies to # 11. Ignore last para of # 13. I did not realise that your contribution was attributed to the Bishop. Sincere apologies. Taken..????

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  9. #13 zambian airways pilots and crew (foreigners) where staying at a lodge in livingston for the past 3yrs untill the airline suspended its operations.[executive issues]. Zambian airways had only two small old planes that mr sata refered to as kites when he was in good books with FJT and the rest where leased[The watchdog]. Leased aircraft are maintained by the owners and therefopre ZA had no enginners. unlike Zambia airways that had offices around the world, ZA only had offices in lusaka and used agents everywhere else. So what where the 200 people that the bishop is talking about doing??

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  10. #7
    While I agree with what you said about Bishop Mambo, I do not agree with your last sentence.

    $30 million dollars is not enough to build even a quarter of modern hospitals. Go and do your research. Bishop Mambo is wrong but stop talking about things you know nothing about.

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  11. Well said #7 & 11,that is the total summary that closes this case
    ZA is a private entity owned by 4 companies & individuals,debt owned is enormous,ZA had problems prior to global financial crisis,no guarantee that tax payers money will be recovered if ZA is bailed by govt,Zambezi airlines(also Zambian) has advertised,some of the few employees of Zambian Airways can will be employed by Zambezi Airlines,the rest,some of them who are foreigners would have to seek employment elsewhere,the number of employees is minimal making a bailout not worth it considering the amount of debt ZA owes,better the money is used on other areas of public interest not ”private interests”,nothing political!

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  12. #18 Engines

    Wlanda bwino sana mune. I like and appreciate your analysis. there was too much extravagance on the part of ZA management. You actually dont have to be an economist to have realised that these guys were headed nowhere. The writing was on the wall. Do you know that because of the so called reduced rates on their flights, it was actually possible to fly “standing” on their flights?? True story. I witnessed one such incident. Kwaliba sure? Standing pa ndeke!!

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  13. No need to rescue Zambia airways. these guys were making alot of money, they need to rescue themselves.

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  14. I am still not yet convinced 8-> why ZambiaN airways has gone under. These guys were making a lot of money. Unless you tell me they were living luxurious lives and spending where it did not matter. Why didnt they learn a lesson from ZAMBIA AIRWAYS???

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  15. Lets see how far Zambezi Airlines will go. The owners of Zambezi Airlines have always been government boot lickers…. most fertilizer distribution contracts are awarded to them. NYIOMBO investments is for the Jangulos who are also the owners of Zambezi Airways. But knowing how political the airline industry is in Zambia I know that once there is a change on top they will go down as well. Mark my words!

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  16. Manthani is also in Zambezi Airlines. Interesting. Zambian Airways should quickly find a solution and shame Dora Seliya who is celebrating, maybe she’s been promised some bucks by Zambezi fimofimo. 8->

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  17. **==
    let nchito and mmenbe face the music, balisamwa sana!!
    wel give them prayers Bishop if you wish..

    goodmorning everyone,missed u all…

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  18. At ZA is just poor decision makers (management). ZA is a very small airline which is very immaterial, to think about it as a government concern is a waste of time and resources.

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  19. Typical African mentality. Rejoicing whilst others suffer. How do you celebrate when 256 people are looming the streets as a result of Zambian Airways collapse? Some of the bloggers are already singing about Zambezi Airlines as if they even know the capacity of Zambezi Airlines to absorb 256 people. Those guys only service local routes, do you know that? We must be ashamed that 42 years after independence we have no national flag carrier. Zim is rock bottom but they have kept Air Zim afloat. Suppose Zambia was Zim today would they sustain the airline as the Zimbabweans have done despite the pressing situation they are faced with?

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  20. ba bishop 2011 yapalama mwatampa ukubwatabwata,make your intentions known. To enlighten you it is not just a matter of goverment acting on impulse to bail out zambian airways,there has to be a thorough investigation as to how the directors conducted themselves and it’s most likely these monies went to buy hummers to build dream mansions and typical of a zambian naka extra marital kalebapo.so ba bishop mutekanye speed kills

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  21. #37, Mukelabai

    I wish ZA management and shareholders had a heart for their 256 employees you have mentioned. Mmembe and the Nchito brothers are still stinking rich and living luxurious lives with their hammers while their workers are rooming the streets. Very irresponsible indeed.

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  22. Hey, Zambezi Airways is Nyiombo is Nyama soya`s family. This is not speculation it is a fact. So the happaning at Zambian Airways is likely to repeat istself with time. Let us look beyond Membe and Mutembo (whatever we may have against them) and appreciate the benefits to the Nation at large.

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  23. #11, uli wabufi, who told you all the pilots at ZA are foreigners? actually it has more zambian pilots than you think.qualified captains for that matter.

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  24. 39 Don’t be jealous…the way you are describing M’membe’s lifestyle as if Zambian Airways was his only source of income. Forgetting that he bought the Hammer you are mentioning before Zambian Airways even became a viable entity. Do you want M’membe to sell his personal assets and pump money into Zambian Airways? Be realistic and avoid being petty. Even if Nchito and M’membe deeped into personal coffers to at least keep the airline afloat. Do you think this vindictive government will support that undertaking? I want you to answer me…Zim is rock bottom but Air Zim is still flying, shouldn’t we be ashamed as a nation?

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  25. Fellow bloggers Zim is in a deep crisis both politically and economically…their inflation currently reads like a phone number but Air Zim is still flying despite the situation. Our Zambia with a much more viable economy than Zim has not national flag carrier. Shouldn’t that be a source of shame for our vindictive leaders? Lets push politics out of sensitive industries, lets put national interest first. But knowing how generous our minister of transport Honourable Dora Siliya is, I can’t be surprised if I hear that she is donating to the boys behind Zambezi Airlines, who happen to be Rupiah’s relatives. Dora is a well known philanthropist in that department.

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  26. Why dont we demand a statement from directors of zambian airways including Membe and Nchito, why are they quiet? why are they not asking for a bailout themselves? why are some people asking govnt to act when the owners of the airline are not. can Membe through the paper that digs dipper tell us why ZA management does not want to talk to Govnt but instead using the post to Fuel rumours that even the post itself knows are Fake. why is the post not reporting to the Zambians that ZA is seeking an injunction restraining creditors from enganging bailiffs over debt. IS IT A QUESTION OF HONOR AMOUNG THIEVES??

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  27. Free market economics! Level playing field! Survival of the fittest!
    I thought that that was what we voted for in 1992! So what is the problem Bishop?
    I sound insouciant. I have been blessed to use Zambian Airways and they were very good. I advise that they should stand on their own otherwise Govt will take advantage. I trust that they will come out of this better and stronger. The refiner of silver is sat by them and they will not burn more or less till His face appears! Take no money from the kings of Sodom, lest they say they made you rich! El shaddai is your shield & great reward.

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  28. Can those rejoicing like Dora answer me please….Zim whose inflation is in millions has kept its National flag carrier afloat. Yet our thriving Zambia has no National flag carrier. Zambezi Airlines only services local routes. How will we even benefit from the South Africa 2010 World Cup with an airline(Zambezi Airlines) that only goes to Chipata, Ndola, Solwezi, Mfuwe and Livingstone? Isn’t this embarassing? Answer please!

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  29. Pumpy, Esk, Mulamu 3RqU

    Ni true story ya standing! The only time the guy wouls sit is when the air hostess was serving refreshments. When the captain announces, “please fasten your seat belts. We are about to land”, The chap would stand and hold on to two aisle seats. Kwenze drama mwe. Landing nayeve, it was a bit bumpy. Muzungu, line!!!

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  30. #43, Mukelabai,

    I agree with you that we should be ashamed that we do not have a national airline after more than 40 years of independence. Where i differ with you is putting the whole blame on government for the failure of a private company, the cause of which is mainly gross missmanagement. The ZA management and shareholders should take full responsibility for failing to run an airline. The responsiblity iam demanding is not to sell their hummers and private property just to keep ZA floating, but decision making and prudent management and accountability. It is no wonder they compaigned for Magande and SATA to save their private company using public resources, a scheme which failed.

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  31. #42 CHE GUAVARA

    I have used Zambian Airways several times, iam infact one of the victims now Claiming a refund for my Ticket. On all my trips i never saw a zambian captain on board. The only time i had an encounter with a Zambia pilot was on british airways.check your facts my dear.

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  32. 50…Air Zim is owned by the Zim government. I am citing Air Zim because I find it silly for a government without a National flag carrier to rejoice in the collapse of the country’s sole flag carrier, which was also serving as a face saver. We couldn’t save Zambia Airways so please lets do something to protect private investments. That’s my point…but seeing that a lot of bloggers in support of this matter are rather selfish and self-centred individuals, I guess I wouldn’t want to extend this debate because a selfish mind is not a rational one. I rest my case.

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  33. #48. Mukelabai

    Unfortunately you have restricted your question to those rejoicing like Dora. Please open it up even to those not rejoicing then many people including me may assist.

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  34. Relax

    Khani iyi is very true. I was a first hand witness.

    Bloggers

    Zambian airways had Zambian Pilots also!! Lets call a spade a spade. I know of a captain Phiri who has just recently gone to fly for an airline in Nigeria.

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  35. #56 Zoe

    This is a true story mwebantu! This flight was coming from Joburg, and for some strange reason, overbooked. Rather than stay behind, this Muzungu pleaded to stand and they let him. Mwayibala ati ni pa Zed pano?? Anything is possible Ka?
    During the campaign, Teta enzochaya standing mu Presidential Helicopter!!

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  36. 53…You are lying! Its you who needs to check your facts. Yes! You couldn’t see a Zambian captain on board because to you a Zambian has to be BLACK. You were looking for colour to classify the crew. I was also an ardent user of Zambian Airways and I can tell you that it had a number of ‘white’ Zambians as pilots. Actually others where even Zambians of Indian or Arabic origins. Lets be truthful! You have said it yourself and I quote: ‘I never saw a Zambian captain on board’. How can you tell someone’s nationality by seeing?

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  37. #37 ‘256 people are looming the streets’
    #7 ‘What wrong with this Bishop, looks like he is on a headline warpath’
    #11 Engines ‘ All pilots where foreigners’
    and then the creme de lacreme
    #38 Akapondo ‘typical of a zambian naka extra marital kalebapo.so ba bishop mutekanye speed kills’
    I LOVE LT!

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  38. I totally agree with Bishop Mambo.
    This will help iron out a number of suspicions in the system.
    It is also the best way to ensuring clear and convincing majority rule.
    There in no need for anyone to object this arrangement in as much as we all are entitled to opinion, in that majority say they want 50 + 1

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  39. #43 Mukelabai please, you cannot honestly use Zimbabwe as an example where in all intense and purposes the country is bankrupt and has literally ground to a near halt. I can assure you Air Zimbabwe like most government controlled entities in Zim is not being operated as a viable entity but as a source of income to continue supporting the lifestyles of Mugabe’s inner circle. The question you should ask yourself is for how much longer will the airline you talk about stay afloat when sources of FX income in Zim are fast dwindling. Should we be ashamed that we do not have a national airline, not really, how many national carriers are they in the U.S. or are they all private? Isn’t this Free Mark

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  40. #55 Mukelabai

    lets put you #55 post in context. Air zim is owned by the Govnt(Zim tax payers). lets come to Zambia, who owns zambian Airways? in bussnes partners share both losses and profits, if air zim makes profit the tax payer bennefits through Govnt treasury thats if air zim makes losses the same tax payer money should be used for a bail out. now come to zambia, where do ZA profits go? whereever they go should be the source of bailout funds. simple! unfortunately its not a viable option because those funds will just fall into a bottomless pit.There are more liabilities than assets with ZA. unviable investment.

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  41. ….Market Economics and the spirit of capitalism. U honestly can’t fault Govt. for the mismanagement of a private sector player!

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  42. zambian airways is a private business concern ..its not even a listed company so why should taxpayers money be considered in a bailout? the time for bailouts is coming..lets not waste our meagre resources on private entities. A resulting gap from its liquidation will provide others an opportunity to also give aviation a go!!Anyway..with the political affliations surrounding this company a bailout is not likely to be supported by Cabinet not unless editorial policy changes radically in some newspapers!!

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  43. #53. Engines
    The Post profiled Capt Tembo some time ago.
    But never mind that #60 Mukelabai is right. Zambians are multi coloured nowadays. There are ‘former blacks,’ ‘fanta-coca cola’ whites, oranges, blacks and AMBIvalents.

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  44. 😮 Bishop, stick to the pulpit & stop expressing your ignorance on economic issues you can barely comprehend! With or without the global credit crunch, Zambian Airways was not a viable business from the start. It survived on life support thanks to LPM & Magande. Any business that cannot support it’s basic operations from internally generated cashflows, is NOT viable! This is nothing personal, but GRZ should not waste tax payers money on this dying horse, coz even if we LEND them $50m, they’ll simply get into worse debt & we’ll lose big time.

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  45. ..well spoken number 64, lets apply logic here versus emotion, we all agreed in 1991 that capitalism and a free market economy was the way to go, #55 seems to support the notion of Govt being in business, which unfortunately leads to decisions not always being made on their economic merit…you just have to look at the state of zambian parastatals pre 1991 to follow what i am saying.

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  46. #60 Mukelabai

    You are becoming trivial, how did you know that those whites where Zambians, did you ask for their green national registration cards? if indeed they are zambians why where they stayng at a lodge in livingstone for three years[The watchdog], are you sayng they are zambians without homes in zambia. Mukelabai we wont educate each other if we start speculating.

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  47. Ka Dora Siliya your time will come. What goes around comes around. Boma iza chinga mu 2011 ninshi inchito yapwa then we will close ka Zambezi Airways

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  48. Dear His Excellency the President Mr R Banda, you have heard that it was said, ‘an eye for an eye’ and ‘a tooth for a tooth.’ But He says to you, ‘if your enemy slaps you on one cheek, give him the other also.’ ‘Munzako akaphya ndevu, umuzimitse. M’mawa azazima zako.’ Call the directors and executive of this beleagured airline and talk to them. Tell them how important they are to the country and ask them what they think you can do to help them. Yeh! Go on! Be magnanimous!

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  49. Engines you are dead on, of ZAs initial 2 boeing 737s, 1 has been at Johannesburg International Airport (with no engines) for over six months now, obvious conclusion is the planes bought by the local banks were sub standard, 1 went down, prompting the airline to lease another aircraft with its own pilots and cabin crew, which would explain accomodation being provided by ZA. ZA should have stuck to their code/profit sharing agreement with Kulula.com but they being the astute businessmen they are they got greedy and cancelled the arrangement in favour of their own aircrafts..this proved to be a disastrous move in the larger world of aviation!!!

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  50. Those calling for a bailout of Zambian airways. i have a small investment employng 11 people all with families. last year i dint expect the financial crisis and i spend some money on a holiday in SA.My firm is now going under. Do i deserve a state bail out?? if my firm goes under, 11 families will be in the streets. if the govnt can bail out zambian airways why not everyone else who is going under? besides i dont owe any bank any money so bail out money will be reinvested unlike zambian airways that needs to sort out debts before thinking of operations.

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  51. Fine
    Am around, I always am but on some days i prefer to just read the news and comments and not comment myself.

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  52. Why bail out pivate companies using public funds? What kind of thinking is this? Before ZA we were still travelling by air. If fred and his “work” brothers can not manage a business they should sell it to capable heads and hands period. Ba Bishop twapapata please just preach the good news and God bless u.

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  53. Strange thing about men of the collar these days is that they have stopped preaching against sin as defined in the Bible and the euangelion for salvation but they have latched on to politics because that is where the NGO funding is found! Their pulpits are not paying well so they go into politico-social issues. Millions are going to a lifeless eternity but all the good bishop cares for is an airline! I wish Jeremiah was here!

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  54. Even though Zimbabwe is struggling, here is a very interestin picture:

    Zambia

    Copperbelt University

    National Institute of Public Administration

    University of Zambia

    Zimbabwe

    Africa University

    Bindura University of Science Education

    Catholic University in Zimbabwe

    Great Zimbabwe University

    Midlands State University

    National University of Science and Technology

    Solusi University

    University of Zimbabwe

    Zimbabwe Open University

    Source: ww w.unesco. or g/ iau/ onlinedatabases/ list_data/ vz- nw. ht ml #Zambia

    Zimbabwe is running 7 universities normally!

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  55. 85. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe continued.
    Zimbabwe is running 7 universities without closures not even at one time have such been heard of. In the ww w. lusakatimes. com/ ?p =7490 more bloggers put up there thoughts on my list above and I will share them below.

    My posting is just an eye opener like mukelabai has done on Zimbabwe and Zambia regarding the airline industries in both countries.

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  56. One “46. Peter” in the above mentioned posting wrote “#43 Maestro. Thanks for this knowledge. Just wait for Mugabe’s death. Within five years time, Zimbabwe will look like Berlin. Zambia will look like Berut (whatever the spelling).”
    Another blogger “47. TKM” wrote “#43. Interesting observation. To the Zambian list I would add Northrise University in Ndola, The SDA University (Southern Province), The Catholic University of Zambia (Kalulushi, soon to be opened I believe). Zambian people (Tongas, Bembas, Lozis, etc) are very intelligent but there is something missing, I can’t seem to put my finger on it. …

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  57. 87 continued.
    …Is it that we do not have well developed systems of education, a culture of seeking knowledge, intellectual honesty, or is it the economy that betrays us? Someone give me answers. I know that one of the strengths of a nation is it’s education. Obama mentioned this in his acceptance speech:”Our universities and our culture are the envy of the world…””

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  58. TKM continued “… or is it a complex mix of factors? Most probably. But how can we work together to address the situation. Is it too big a dream to imagine the University of Zambia churning out Nobel Prize Winning Research or indeed even setting up it’s own standards that other’s would envy?”

    Surely, what is wrong with Zambia and Zambians? My take is that it is because our media has focussed much on news reporting of politics of poverty, imagebuilding and attacking the current GRZ instead of looking at real issues that affect our economy’s perfomance.

    I hope we will one day, hopefully as soon as 2011, change our behaviour as a people for the betterment of mother Zambia. We only ONE.

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  59. 86…Maestro! I knew that you will post positively. You always reason and see matters from different perspectives as opposed to some bloggers. Great eye opener on Zim and Zambia regarding Airline industry. Actually, when Ian Smith left in 1980 there was only UZ(University of Zimbabwe). But today they are running 7 universities and some bloggers here can’t surely see that our leadership needs to overhaul its attitude towards critical sectors of the economy. Nations that came after us are now better than us. ie The Ethiopia-Eriteria war has been ragging of on for some time but Ethiopian Airlines is still up. Sadly, in Zambia, a change in leadership means a change in policy as well.

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  60. #85 Maestro Hhehhehhehhe
    Ever heard of the difference between quality and quantity? you seem to have a classical example.

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  61. In the list on #85. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, I would remove NIPA from there and place Mulungushi Unversity.

    Rankings:

    CONTINENT RANK UNIVERSITY COUNTRY WORLD RANK

    1 University of Cape Town 385
    2 Stellenbosch University 654
    ….
    17 University of Zimbabwe 4,001

    52 University of Malawi 6,882
    53 Cape Peninsula University of Technology 7,043
    54 Helwan University 7,052
    55 University of Zambia 7,116
    etc
    Source: ww w.webometrics. info/ top100_continent. asp ? cont = africa

    Fellow country men and women, this is how (bad) the situation is! I do not know what your take is on this issue.
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  62. 90. Mukelabai, nice stuff.
    91. Engines on “Ever heard of the difference between quality and quantity? you seem to have a classical example”, have you seen my posting on #92. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe.

    What is your take on this issue following this light?

    I will now go back to the Airline issue just to present my thoughts in it.
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  63. Voila (French!). On “Bishop Mambo says there is need for government to come up with economic measures that will help Zambian Airways to recover from its operational problems and ensure that sustainability in the operations of the company.”
    While this is desirable, I think we need to personally do something to help ZA instead of looking up to the MMD GRZ which M’membe castigates almost daily even to the extent of calling demeaning the President RB Banda – our country President although we have freedom of expression.
    So, let those individuals with an interest in the operations and who are able to contriubte money put up US$25 Mil by donations to a common ZA resuscitation account.

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  64. 94. Engines, on “#93 your material too bulk to follow maybe someone should assist with a summary”, I have understood, but how bulky is it? I truely and honestly think that it is very clear to both see and understand unless a person just chooses not to because of some reason. So, give it a summary and then comment on the issue of quality and quantity of Zambian and Zimbabwean universities.
    Mind you, many more Zimbabwean are educated in number than Zambians. I have personally learnt in class with two Zimbabweans and they were very good though at memorising than understanding which you can notice in probably both US people and Europeans since they are great at reading very fast.

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  65. 96. Mukelabai, I thought I was the only one who reckoned that #93 is not bulky. Anyway, let us contiue with the discussion and I am sure “Engines” will come round.

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  66. Bo Mukelebai & Ba Maestro Hhehhehhehhe those are very valid points.

    Why are most bloggers in support of a bailout of ZA when it’s 100% shareholding is in private? Why have the shareholders remained quiet failing to issue a statement and let the public attack each other as if they are shareholders. If management at Zambian Airways are ready for a Public Audit let it be and then GRZ could decide to bailout them out or not. If the issue mismanagement which I am sure is the case then let the law take its course like what happened to Enron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  67. 95.Maestro Hhehhehhehhe cont’d.
    Each of the individuals that will donate money can be given shares in the ZA business and then a new board of experienced or qualified people can take over or join the existing board members of ZA.
    Education: defines the minimum job specific knowledge and educational training necessary to perform the job
    ww w.evergreen. edu/ employment/ docs/ Major%20 Compensation%20 Factors%20 Definitions%20 for%20 Distinguishing%20 Pay%20 Differences%20 through%20 Position%20 Evaluation.doc
    I believe this is the ONLY plan that can work now.Otherwise,liquadation of ZA is looming and I am sure president HH is ready to offer receivership activities servicesto do a good job.

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  68. 99. Legend of the Falls greetings and thanks. I have mentioned before that I thought that Zambians who are abroad are indeed wellmeaning people, but my blogging on LT and bwanji. com has shown me that our mindsets collectively as Zambians are far from achieving anything great for our country.
    However, I have hope that by 2021, we will have good enough education exposure to help Zambians to vote properly and do things in a normal way.
    It puzzles me to see Zambians praising US Americans and Europeans and yet do things which can never take Zambia in the right economic and social development.
    Indeed, out task of educating each other is very big (for the willing) and let us not relent.

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  69. Bishop Mambo must have an ace up his sleeve. I think ba bishop mukhale chabe zii. You are embarrassing us with your ignorance. How can gov use tax-payers money to bail out a good-for-nothing airline like ZA?

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  70. 101…You are spot on! It saddens me to see most Zambians showering praises on aliens whilst bashing local ingenuity. Strange enough! They criticize without suggesting solutions. For sure we need to sensitize each other on these matters so that we can knock some sense in most of these pretenders. They value foreign soil more than there very own ancestoral land. Why is it like that? Is it a matter of complex, low self esteem or we are simply lacking in the area of positive contribution to our nation’s economic and social development?

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  71. # 101 Maestro Hhehhehhehhehhe, ndalumba Taata. I also hope by 2021 we as Zeds will appreciate the effects of education not ignorance where you follow blindly becoz someone talks and reads. We are having a serious lack of schools in Southern Province in the sense that the ones KK & Gang left are the ones are siblings are using. Imagine a 100 kms radius having only 2 secondary schools as the rest have been turned into High Schools. The Political will in Zed is to have the common man’s children go to Basic school whilst they send their dull children abroad, sorry I am swaying from the ZA issue but thought I should add this to those calling for ZA’s GRZ bailout.

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  72. Zambian Airways was already a coat to the nation.
    You must understand that government was using taxpayers money to run the costs of NACL which should have been taken care of by the US$2m which ZA owes NACL. As if that was not enough, tax which was supposed to be paid by ZA to let goverment provide various favours including the one they were illegally requesting from Magande of rescue plan.
    I tell people that if you run three companies and one is simply eating into the income of the other, you will be better off maintaining one which you look into other possible areas of diversification. This way you will save.

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  73. 103 Mukelabai and 104 Legend of the Falls great postings.
    On schools, we have a huge task to do in this regard also. I am of the impression that those who have made enough money can start doing noble cause projects like building REAL schools, not the houses I see being turned into learning centres, from scratch in some localities as individaul or collectively as partners to even later give to the GRZ to operate as public institutions.
    Please, Zambians let us give for the benefit of our fellow man. The Holy Scriptures record that blessed is the hand that gives than the one that takes. There is a serious lesson in this message fro all of us regardly of your religious position or belonging.

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  74. 108. relax greetings and kindly check for my responses to your querries in the ww w.lusakatimes. com/ ? p = 7483 thread entailed “Media organizations implored to heed to President Banda’s advice”.

    Over and out for I am going for language lessons for the next two hours.

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    LT 2008 Award Winner. =; for Zambia in 2011.

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  75. Our nation lacks PHILANTHROPISTS. We need people who can fulfill the Holy Scriptures’ teachings on giving. But largely, our leadership also needs to adopt expansionist policies with regards to the education sector. Lets make the cost of education in Zambia cheaper. Unlike situations where education has become as expensive as building a high cost house. If more investment was dedicated to the education sector we would be talking of a different story now. When you have a relatively educated populace, you are guaranteed that the pressure of the state providing jobs for every one will be lifted because some educated somebody will establish a viable entity and employ a good number of Comrades.

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  76. There is nothing political about the demise of Zambian Airways. It all boils down to bad business practices and poor cash flow management. When you neglect cash flow management and payment of statutory dues, landing charges, remittance of NAC fees etc, you really have no business being in business and your creditors will come calling sooner or later. Even if government were to buy an equity stake in the airline, nothing would change as long as you have the same ill-qualified and ill-experienced management running the airline. Either ZA’s business model was defective or the management was clueless about running an airline.

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  77. Bo Mukelebai # 110, our first Cabinet has a niche for Education hence their development of the current infrastructure, it’s not they where Holy than thou but they sacrificed and the rest is history. Imagine if the MMD chaps where Zed’s first Cabinet with all those Pounds in our reserves. Reading Mario Puzo’s “The Godfather” he begins with “behind every successful business is a crime” so maybe that explains why we have no PHILANTHROPISTS in Zed. What if we include a deliberate policy in our Constitution that no Politician holding Office shall have be evacuated abroad for Medical Treatment and all their siblings are to go to school in Zed with MP’s going to schools in their Constituencies?

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  78. It would be immoral and economically illogical to use tax payers money to give a company which has been mismanaged and has been gragged into irredemable debt beyond recovery long before the crunch.The country has many well managed businesses facing challenges out of uncontrollable macro forces other than self created crisises.Doing so would be promoting incompetence and lack of good business practices.I challenge Bishop Mambo to force ZA and the Post to place their financial structure and statements in the press for the past 2 years.Let Zambians see why ZA deserves no bailout.Mambo thinks tax money is like the Church funds he kept plundering impunity untill the expelled him.

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  79. 113…Don’t be emotional just make your point. Emotions have never delivered any where. Rational minds have never been know to hit the roof that easily.

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  80. No bailout for ZA.If there is GRZ funds to shred, please invest in Agriculture mechanization,health systems or find equity partners with whom you take over ZA and convert it into a fiable national carrier.Ignore corrupt and disgraced John Mambo long fired from the church of God for plunder, womanizing and drunkardness.He has been hired to drumbeat the ochestra for incompetent managers at a fee.Protect our tax money from such business con artists.

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  81. These hired guns should first look and analysis business records of these con artists to avoid embarrassing themselves in wanton ignorance.ZA has been a heavily indebted business. It started with 100% loaned funds, has been operating on debts and been borrowing more and more debts without a structure in place denying itself real value a good business gains over a period of goods management.What are the securities ZA has that tax payers money will be given against? Bailout would be a case of GRZ rewarding incompentent management and shareholders who have mismanaged creditors funds.

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  82. look zambian airways had its chance and made a mess of it , look around zambia and ask yourself this .
    Which air charter company has had staedy growth and actualy ownes more planes than Zambian airways , although they may be smaller planes …..only one aircompany comes to mind .PRO Flight. why not just embrace this company to become the national airline . after all Zambeef ownes shares of this company so why cant GRZ buy in and make it the national carrier. just a thought.

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  83. Chi number 48…..talk about things you know than things you dont know…who told you Zambezi goes to mfuwe.thats why you are liars.by the way watch Zambezi go international, its jus next month ka…….

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  84. ok bishop we hear you,but can the government do something when the directors have not said anything? :-?:-?:-?

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  85. Maestro
    I do not think that Zimbabweans are suffering. We just read that in the western press. Some of the photos of empty shelves look like our old ZCBC shelves in the 80’s. The malnousrished babies they show on TV can also be found in Zambia. I have looked at Harare on Google earth and it definately looks better than Lusaka. Streets are tarred and houses are ordered. Lusaka’s townships, oh! my! they look like monkeys were town planning!

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