THE Patriotic Front Government (PF) has admonished former Republican vice-president George Kunda and labelled him as an immoral person for moving a motion urging Parliament to review the human rights curriculum for law enforcement agencies in Zambia despite his alleged poor record on such matters.
Community Development, Mother and Child Health Deputy Minister Jean Kapata, in denouncing the motion which was seconded by Kalomo Member of Parliament (MP) Request Muntanga (UPND), said it was in bad faith and should be dismissed. “Mr Kunda has no moral right to bring such a motion. I was a victim of his brutalisation when I was arrested for honking; honourables Chishimba Kambwili, Davies Mwila and Mwenya Musenge suffered too.
“Our President Micheal Sata, he suffered at the hands of the MMD as he was arrested for 40 days, tear gassed at the Drug Enforcement Commission (DEC) and where was Kunda to talk about human rights issues?” Ms Kapata, who is Mandevu MP, said.
She said MMD Lusaka Province chairperson William Banda brutalised women and children in Chongwe and wondered where Mr Kunda was to champion human rights. “Mr Speaker it is an emotional motion, which is a mockery and should not be supported,” Ms Kapata said.
Finance and National Planning Deputy Minister Alfreda Kansembe condemned the motion, saying it lacked merit. Home Affairs Minister Kennedy Sakeni, in denouncing the motion, said from 1995, human rights had been part of the curriculum at Lilayi Police Training College.
“Programmes in this regard are already there and so how does one open a door that is already open? It is unnecessary for somebody to come up with a motion aimed at bringing out their lamentations about fears they have.
“Police won’t harass you like you did with the opposition,” Mr Sakeni, who is Mansa Central MP, said in reference to the mover of the motion. He said the PF Government wanted the police to operate professionally and that was why it had not locked up opposition MPs found wanting.
“Many of you are supposed to be behind bars. This motion is therefore irrelevant because it is seeking to do what is already in place,” Mr Sakeni said. Kawambwa MP Nickson Chilangwa (PF) said the motion was moved by a wrong person as it was under Mr Kunda’s reign that innocent people expressing their views in Mongu were brutalised and maimed.
Mr Chilangwa said it was also under the reign of Mr Kunda that people were shot at while watching football in Mazabuka, and that some people were shot in Mansa while another life was lost in Garden Township in Lusaka. Mr Kunda in moving the motion said in the 53 days of PF rule, the conduct of some police officers had deteriorated to unprecedented levels.
“They are violating the fundamental human rights of citizens and especially the rights of opposition political parties with impunity. They are on rampage brutalising the people (civilians) they are supposed to protect,” he said. In winding down the motion which was shot down through a vote by acclamation, Mr Kunda said a message had been communicated to the police as being for the people.
“As for the Mongu riots, I was asked by the Speaker to explain in this House what happened and of course we got briefs from operatives on the ground and was consistent with what I said. We spoke the same language,” Mr Kunda, who is Muchinga MP (MMD), said.
Others who supported the motion were Mumbwa Central MP, Brian Chituwo, Monze MP Jack Mwiimbu (UPND) and Cornellius Mweetwa for Choma Central (UPND). Mr Muntanga in seconding the motion stressed that it was aimed at addressing real issues.
And Parliament yesterday ratified the appointments of Mumba Malila and Rosewin Wandi as Attorney General and Anti-Corruption Commission (ACC) director general, respectively. Parliament also heard that former ACC director General Godfrey Kayukwa last week resigned from his job.
In moving the motion on the ratification of the presidential appointments, Mpika Central MP Mwansa Kapeya (PF) said Colonel Kayukwa submitted his resignation as ACC director general on November 3, 2011 and that the office of ACC director general was as at yesterday vacant.
Mr Kapeya urged the House to ratify the appointments of the two nominees because they were distinguished, competent, diligent, experienced, and mature officials.
[Times of Zambia]
He is not the best looking man, is he?
Thanks
Your Nick is even more ugly, and you aren’t beautiful too! Thanks.
For the first time Mushota u’ve said somthing funny!
Natikamisha kuchinso kwati alile chikanda iya sasa
GK….Keep quiet!!! You failed us.You are an imbarrament .
Just as it is immoral for Sata to condem corruption. Remember the Merzaf scandal?
What goes around comes around. This chap ditched Levy after his death ! What comes out of his mouth after jumping ship is a disgrace for a so called senior lawyer. I just wish he would go away !
THIS MAN IS NOW FINISHED,HIS WIFE WAS BEHAVING HAS IF THEY OWN ZAMBIA,WE SHALL PERSUE YOUR PICK N PAY SHARES AND MUSAMANI LODGE INCLUDING PELICAN HOUSE WERE YOU USE TO SALE ARV’S WHEN THEY WHERE IN SHORT SUPPLY A LONG TIME AGO.YOU LET THOSE DOING ROAD MAINTAINANCE TO START WITH YOUR ROAD WHICH LEADS TO YOUR PELICAN HOUSE IGNORING THE ARTHUR DAVISON ROAD WHICH LEADS TO THE HOSPITAL.HAVE YOU USED THE ARTHUR DAVISON ROAD YOU BAFOON/MORON EVEN AN Ambulance can’t manage.
A bad case of MPs using their battocks to think and brains to sit on. Surely you cannot reject progressive ideas just because they come from someone you do not like. At this rate, the same will happen to the constitution. Whatever the opposition will say will be trashed. I wonder if we were created by the same God.
Iwe those laws are already there, except they were not respected by George Kunda and his clan. It is simple, you cannot bring laws that are already there. The idea of human rights in already written but it is not just respected! I’m sure GK knows this but he is scared every time he moves that he might be hounded the way he did to his opponents when he was VIP!
Iwe Kasai, chisungu balembele. Did you understand what you read to be giving such comments. You your brains if they function.
When u’r in power, just do the right things so that those who come in will treat you the way you treated them. DO UNTO OTHERS
This thug should be in Mukobeko Maximum Prison for abuses in office from NCC to the London Judgement U-turn.
Is it not a contempt of court to pass comments in parliament on a matter case which is in a court of law? Jean Kapata is literally telling the magistrate the William Banda is guity.
G.K is just to sharp for PF MPs.He knew very that the motion wont pass but wanted to convey the message to the Police for turning into PF stooges.Well don G.K!!
why didn’t G.K talk during the time Police were MMD stooges?
Is it not a contempt of court to pass comments in parliament on a case which is in a court of law? Jean Kapata is literally telling the magistrate that William Banda is guity.
(corrected)
Zuberi, MPs commenting on court cases during a parliamentary debate are protected by ‘parliamentary priviledge’ – they can comment on anything, even matters before ther courts.
What a silly man.
What is important is to do what is right, no matter the messenger of the missive. Unless Jean Kapata is telling us that what is being suggested is not needed now that she has instruments of power to persecute (not prosecute, per se).
We are not saying what Kunda is saying is wrong but want to re
mindf him that he the power to do this when he Vice god of Zambia• The is just afraid for his safety:d
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Light travels faster than sound.Thats why some of these MP’s appear bright…. until you hear them speak.
Alale ba Kunda, which part of his body does he use to think? After all he did to his fellow zambians , today he wants to act like a person who cares. Please mwe bantu TRASH his contributions in readiness to trash him also.
Pf members are behaving like experts in every thing they do. When there is such a progressive move, they rubbish it.Unless it was coming from their President who claims to have an allergy to corruption and yet he is the most corrupt person still serving in Government today.The memories of 2001 are still Fresh and Paul Tembo lost his life over the information he had about the K2 bn used at the MMD convention of which Sata was very Instrumental.After shedding blood to cover their skins,today the surviving Cobra thinks he is cleaner than RB.God forbid.We are watching these crooks and their claims that they will Govern this country on 10 commandments will come to haunt them and they will realise that they can’t make jokes with God.
uletekanya iwe, who told you Paul died because of the information about the K2 billion used at the convention. Paul died way after the K2 billion, he caught his then “Wife” Clara red- handed commiting adultery with a PRIEST from Ndola. The priest had been a long time family friend. Clara had shot him in the head after he decided to divorce her.
its true ARV’S CAN PROLONG YOUR LIFE,THIS MAN IS STILL ALIVE ,ONA VI MBOVU!!
Mushota my role model please be my teacher i want to be like you
They want protection from the very police officers that they turned in cadres and unprofessional. The police hate MMD because of what they subjected them to do. The police are motivated to work hard now. It is unfortunate that you are the Enemy of the State-Boma. GK !! taste you medicine now.
I Think he needs a brain transplant
Iwe ka hule kanga ka mushota what is your comment OVER what the man said don’t talk about his looks iam sure he is more sweeter than your white BF
what difference or wose still is Sata even better than Kunda in terms of there past records.Sata was the william Banda of Chiluba’s days .I guess most of you remember the mandevu massacre and the third term issue not long ago.Its a shame just how short minded we are and how one can trade the nation when the police think theey are more powerful than the people being protected.
George kunda how funny it is you can notice the deficiency in the police training curriculum on human rights now that you are out of office. just one suggestion for you George push the government to quickly upgrade the police and prison cells you need their services soon.
George Kunda is not ok! The photo does not show how he looks like in real life. He looks two dimensional, like a cardboard cut out!
mwq, you have forgotten the Cahwama massacre.William Banda was much better than Sata,but i am surprised people have very short memories and can’t remember such an horrific event.
#18, what’s ARV got to do with the issue at hand? You are a primitive *****. Descrimination on the basis of a medical condition is not clever, it’s just base, pure primitivity, period!
meant Chawama massacre.
Is this the level Parliamentary debates have been reduced to? If GK did not act then,does it mean his contributions in Parliament should be dismissed with contempt? Be objective
It is not a matter of what GK did as vice president. We should judge and review his contributions on merit. Certainly we do not want a govt that takes human rights to the cleaner but there is need for a start- a good start that is and it does not matter where that comes from
Its shocking to hear from paliament that The ACC general resigned on 3rd yet we all saw it when sata said that he fired Kayukwa. this govt is full of blunders and guffs. 5 years is too long for this govt.
elo lwanya
LT and “Gay” news? Am bored and need something interesting to comment on.
Mr Small Brain please go and get some sleep w@nker!!
LT any “Gay” news? Am bored and need something interesting to comment on.
Could this be our logger Mushota? http://www.nichefoto.com/search.php?q=africa
Yes she, what a loser
LOL No Chance, so that’s where that creature thingy stole his/her photo from?
Talk about hypocrisy.
Someone show Red Lip this video please!
youtube.com/watch?v=jdpqLbpbcR0
Im just from checking the video, its pathetic, Kunda chi colour nembwa shinankwe shud be the last *****s to talk about human rights, bafikala what do you take us for? contine dying slow ma f…..ker
Someone show Red Lip this please:
muvitv.com/?p=19684
George Kunda where are you?
youtube.com/watch?v=_PRU7Iz5J7k
Opposition MPs should not be inimidated,so that they have fear to ontribute on meaningful legislation for the country.It should be every concerned citizen desire to contribute positvely to the governance of the country.I hope Post Front(PF) MPs will not cry foul when the opposition will turn down their bills one day.Lets put aside ‘ukaponya’ mentality.Parliament is suppose to be for level minded people.
GK go to sleep!!
There goes a cadre without a brain!
@#34 Nakucha.
There goes a cadre without a brain!
RB, Kunda, Dora, Shikapwasha can just be a source of anger when they speak in the public about anything. They must apologise to the Zambian people of all the evils they did and shut thier asss..sumptions
Hmmm sure bane, who can listen to this evil man called Kunda? Kunda treated Zambians like animals, he set the very police he is compaining about on innocents, he set ZNBC, daily mail and Times of Zambia on innocent people. Really what human rights can he talk about today. It is true Kunda is imoral. Nonsense.
pf sympathisers are dull..very dull indeed…dullest….extremely dull,,,surely dull,,,explicitly dull,,beyond measure dull,,
George Kunda has no moral right to talk about hunman rights. The man has blood all over his body, the blood of the people his party and govt murdered and brutalised. He is a William tekere Banda in a lawyers costume.
Dr Obatala why are PF sympathisers dull? And please stop shouting. People will see you are hurting,frustrated and actually dull!
indeed elo lwanya people who do not know how to debate are in power,problems!
Yangu ulichipuba
GK you stupid imbicile son of an old degenerate woman. You vegetable fool. you thought you owned Zambia and its people. look at the failed constitution you tried to implement and the wasted tax payer’s money which you got from it with impunity. Shut up and stay shut up
Is it not GK who brought to the attention of the once august house the issue of the secretary to the treasury and now the lunatics running the asylum like Kapata want to silence him? If GK is guilty of any abuse of human rights or any crime, charges should be brought against him otherwise he is free as an elected politician to speak in parliament. William Banda is innocent until proven guilty unlike the thug that was pardoned by Chilufyana whose assault on a fellow Zambian was witnessed on tv. It will be easy for GK to hammer these clueless thugs as he is highly intelligent despite his ‘red lips’. By the way, is it true that Chilufyana is laid up in bed again?
Poor reporting LT. We need to know what is contained in the bill before we can criticize. That is why we are advocating for a new constitution, a lot needs to be changed. When you people vote for MPs who are not educated to parliament, they will shoot down even bills that otherwise will end up protecting them and support bills that will eventually hurt them. Ask President Sata about the Theft of Motor Vehicles bill which he helped push in to law. Nothing is permanent under the sun. The same laws you are rejecting might just end up protecting you. My advise to all the MPs is to put political differences aside when you are debating sensetive bills and put your country first.
yaba..these pf cadres..its not about what happened to you but what is supposed to happen in real life..may have been brutalised but what about tomorrow..!go on GK!!
lock up kunda,the two banda’s and all other followers before they acuse pf of being toothless by not bundling them,kunda is demostrating for not being put to book.
MMD only cares about covering their backsides period!!
mr. kunda should close his mouth.
before the new constitution let us corner lupiya and george for wasting money.given the presidential position,i would have made sure,first the money is paid back by those big mouths
u fool kunda
Why does Mushota keep laughing at her own Naked & reddened arse? Pay some attention to your tail as well, it might just do wonders for your mental complications, Mushota – White monkey lover.
How ironic! What Kunda is advocating is not unusual or ridiculous. Madama Kapata, since when did you become a moralist? The same way Sata can’t talk about corruption…
# 31 ,when u are fired ,you are given time to handle over, to your deputy who will be acting ,as the appointed person awaits parliamentary approval.but i have nt seen anybody appointed being rejected by our house which is very strange.
Iye ba kunda looks lovely and handsome with some meat on in this photo.
Some of us have not forgotten a certain man, currently ill in state house who was distributing pangas to young Zambians to cause grievous bodily harm to other Zambians so as to impose a non-constitutional third-term on the Zambian people. Kapata utterly shameless to be working for such a man who insulted her people as ‘nyamazai’ who are like buttocks only fit to be behind.
I listened to that particular debate on the motion.zp is not professional bcoz culiculum falls short of human rights ethics since independence.well debated by GK and opposition mps who took the floor were exceptionally better, reasoned debate. Pf debate on the other hand was far below parliamentary level, as frm gutters.
I echo the Home Affairs Minster’s sentiments. George Kunda is a scared person whose misdeeds in the former regime are haunting him. George, the law will surely get at you if you committed indictable crimes. What Human Rights curriculum are you talking about? The curriculum has always been there for police training but you abused it. In fact you smuggled brutal MMD cadres into the police ranks who wrecked havoc and mayhem in the country. Now you fear for your skin. You think what you did to innocent citizens will be done to you. The police are now in capable hands and their work has changed to serve the interest of the public and not terrorize them as you did with your fellow thugs Kabonde, William Banda Rupiah Banda and others.
George Kunda might not be the right person for bringing such motions but this should not be used to trash the message. Impunity starts with one small abuse, and another and before we know it, the PF govt is just as bad if not worse than the MMD we kicked out. Police brutality and mob justice should be curbed whether its meted out on MMD cadres/leaders or innocent people. The other day Elvis Nkandu (ZANAMA president) ran so fast for his life that he literally was running out of his shoes……it would have been funny if it weren’t so sad. Let forgiveness and normalcy prevail.
If police Human rights were below par during MMD and they contunue under PF, then there’s merit in what GK is saying. Of course it was wrong for ZP to harrass the opposition. Those aggrieved have the right to feel emotional about it. But in the interests of teh country, there must be a time you put aside emotions and look at the issue objectively so that you can judge whether or not there’s need to upgrade the curriculum the police are using.
It is shameful for GK to bring such a motion to parliament,coz i get perplexed to hear such from a person who was given an opportunity to be in government and hold two very important positions the of veep and minister of justice and yet if failed to correct the wrongs he want to champion today.they say, how could you remove a pick from your friend’s eye when you have a tree in your eye.GK wake up you can’t fool us anymore we re smarter than you are thats why we ejected you from government.
George Kudoda is just missing his post as zedian veep. Please let him yap all he can and dont let him be the center of attention by responding to his crap.
Wakakwa George kunda,u think we have forgotten braggadocio you were,you even went as far as manipulating the constitution so that it can suit you and favor you in 2016,how you u-turned on corruption charges chiluba was facing,u re not a noble man you pathetic lawyer who has no morals,you even wanted to mortgage our beloved country zambia to the so called Chinese investors(inventors) so please GK SHUT YOUR RED LIPPED MOUTH.
MAKE A MOTION, not MOVE A MOTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gk plz don’t remind us of the harm mmd did to our people. you have all of a sudden become a champion of human rights.maybe just as one blogger suggested gk navivuka for not being arrested. we are coming for you kunda, for now you can vuvuzela as you wish. however the motion that you raised should not be trivialized by dim-wits like kapata. but i have issues with you raising it notwithstanding how good the motion is. what am saying is kunda regardless of the shape, texture and color of his lips is a very wrong person to raise such motion!
Kick this Red Lipped Kunda out of LAZ. He is dragging this noble profession into the rubbish. Lawyers and especially State Counsels must have integrity…..like the late Mwanawasa Lawyer wa ma Lawyer (MHSRIP). Not this crap we are seeing in George. You make me sick…….!
Its is foolish for PF to bury their heads in sand to start with SATA has never been clean memories are fresh in some of things SATA DID: CHAWAMA SAGA, MMD CONVENTION K2BILLION, THIRD TERM BID WOMEN WHERE BEING STRIPED NAKED AT AIRPORT AT INSTRUCTION OF KING COBRA ASK FDD PRESIDENT EDITH NAWAKWI KNOWS, HEATING A WOMAN CADRE IN KABWATA DIRECTOR TO HER PRIVATE PARTS HIMSELF KING COBRA COZ SHE WAS AGAINST THIRD TERM, SATA EXPELLING 22 MPs FOR OPPOSING THIRD TERM, LEVY MWANAWASA RESIGNED BCOZ OF SATA’S CORRUPT PRACTICES this is a man today who can say he is allergic to corruption its not fair u PF chaps. 45 days in STATE HOUSE ITS CORRUPTION ALL OVER GIVING HIS UNCLE CHIKWANDA FINANCE MINISTER AND GIVE CONTRACT TO REFURBISH STATE HOUSE AND MINISTER HOUSES WITHOUT FOLLOWING TENDER
We miss LADY GAGA
If Kunda’s point is that the Police and other security services’ curriculum ion human rights needs to be changed, then he is indeed a bigger ***** than I thought. The MMD had been in power for well over 20 years and it is only now that they have had their asses kicked out of power that Kunda realizes the human rights curriculum in place is inadequate? I didn’t know the effects of ARV’s on a person’s ability to think could be so devastating! These are the same police you were using only yesterday to brutalize Zambians with impunity. As for the UPND supporters of this nonsense, I can only say you are the lowest of scum! But then again, those who voted you into office are watching and listening to your contributions. Everyone one deserves the leaders they elect into office.
Kunda’s motion was good for the general population. What Jean Kapata said makes it even more relevant for what Kunda was proposing, but she shot it down. We are making Police think all is well and people will start taking the law in their own hands. We need to be careful. Whatever you think about Kunda, his contribution was good. Lets stop insults and debate with civility.
Mushota, there in no urgly man or woman in the site of God. when i look at your picture too, if that is the case, you too are very far from the beaitifull ladies. i mean it, you are not beatifull at all. you even wast your time to put your picture on the profile. it just shows how silly you are. you are a folish person. that is why every one on this site is busy insulting you, coz they have seen that you are a chaep full
My goodness, Wrong Man to bring such a motion. Kunda, Dora and team should just keep quite. Mwikala Patalala Mwine apatalalika, don’t start the fire you cannot Extinguish. Zambians will rise against you. Please don’t fool us.
Sakeni has addressed Kunda’s concern. Most of Kunda’s concerns are there at Lilayi. MMD failed to enforce but want PF to do.
Kachembele #35, you seriously did not think that is Mushota’s real picture did you?
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#81 what has that got to do with the topic here?
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Much as we appreciate that GK was hated person, we need to ralise that also wrongdoers do appreciate mistakes. GK has realised. I dont expect Jean to demonise him. 2 wrongs cant make a right. So jean be objective and let us make good future policies for our kids. Let us not look @ where the contribution is coming lest we waste time. GK has a point. We can only remind of his arrogance then but get his contribution. We need intelligent minds in parlimentary debate and please other members of the house, remind yourselves that it no time to settle scores Dont be petty!