Following the deportation of the Rwandan Catholic Church Priest , Father Viateur Banyangandora, for allegedly inciting the congregation to rise against the Zambian government, the Catholic has issued a letter to be read this Sunday in all Catholic Parishes of Chipata Diocese.
Below are the full contents of the letter
A Statement to Catholics on the deportation, by the Zambian Government, of Fr. Viateur Banyangandora to Rwanda
To be read in all Catholic Parishes of Chipata Diocese
DO NOT LET YOUR HEARTS BE TROUBLED (John 14:1)
On 12 August 2012
1. To Priests, Religious Sisters, Brothers and the laity of Chipata Diocese. To all Catholics and men and women of goodwill in Zambia!
2. Let me from the outset express my deep appreciation to all of you who have sent messages of solidarity to me and to the Diocese of Chipata on the unfortunate deportation from Zambia of our beloved Parish Priest of Lundazi Catholic Church, Fr. Viateur Banyangandora by the Zambian Government. I am particularly grateful to messages of solidarity from my Brother Bishops in the various Catholic Dioceses of Zambia.
3. I first learnt of the abduction of Fr. Viateur on Monday, the 30th July around 17:00hrs when he, himself phoned me. He asked for permission to meet me in Chipata before proceeding to Lusaka where he was being taken. I met him at Chipata Police Station where I had a brief chat with him. He told me that the security officers who took him did not clearly explain to him the reasons for his arrest except that it was in connection with Sunday Homily in which he spoke about cotton prices. He assured me that he never attacked government in any way. His message was about the have sharing with the have nots as the readings of the day were saying. On the day before his abduction, Fr. Viateur spoke passionately about the plight and poverty of his parishioners and the people of Lundazi. He was exercising his prophetic ministry as any Catholic priest would and should (2Kings 4:42-44; Ephesians 4:1-6; John 6:1-15). He shared this with me in the presence of police officers.[pullquote]He told me that the security officers who took him did not clearly explain to him the reasons for his arrest except that it was in connection with Sunday Homily in which he spoke about cotton prices. He assured me that he never attacked government in any way. His message was about the have sharing with the have nots as the readings of the day were saying. [/pullquote]
4. I asked him as to whether he had eaten something before leaving Lundazi to which he said no. We then prepared something for him to eat. After his meal, he was on that very night driven to Lusaka. I informed Bishop Benjamin Phiri who was by then in Lusaka and Monsignor Joseph at the Nuntiature about this issue and asked them to pursue the matter and establish two things: (1) Why he was picked and (2) his destination because the Commissioner and her deputy here in Chipata expressed ignorance about the whole thing. They said that they were simply obeying orders from Lusaka.
5. In Lundazi, I am reliably informed that Fr. Viateur was interrogated on Monday 30th July, 2012 by various officials, including the District Commissioner (a politician!). Fr. Viateur was later that day brought to Chipata where he was further interrogated by a combined team of Immigration, Police and Office of the President (OP) agents. During his interrogation and traumatising ordeal, he was not availed a lawyer and not a single diocesan official was present nor notified of Fr. Viateur’s arrest. Without being charged, Fr. Viatuer was later that very evening, driven to Lusaka in the night. From then on there is a black-out of information. Where was Fr. Viateur taken? Was he beaten, tortured? Was he being fed? What did they do about his Diabetic medicine? His BP medicine? What really did the State do to Fr. Viateur? We will need answers. What crime did Fr. Viateur really commit? Has preaching the Gospel in a so-called Christian Nation become a crime?[pullquote]The Commissioner and her deputy here in Chipata expressed ignorance about the whole thing. They said that they were simply obeying orders from Lusaka.[/pullquote]
6. When Fr. Viateur was being held by the security wings, my colleagues and I at the Diocesan administration of Chipata Diocese made several and frantic attempts to secure the release of Fr. Viateur. We spoke to politicians, heads of the various security wings both in Chipata and in Lusaka. In most cases the people we spoke to were tight-lipped and did not want to give us any information. Most of them, their overzealousness notwithstanding, were clearly afraid for their jobs. All in all, we did not get a satisfactory answer from anyone we spoke to on the Tuesday of 31 July 2012. I personally even phoned and spoke to the Republican President on the issue. He only promised that he would get back to me..[pullquote]During his interrogation and traumatising ordeal, he was not availed a lawyer and not a single diocesan official was present nor notified of Fr. Viateur’s arrest. Without being charged, Fr. Viatuer was later that very evening, driven to Lusaka in the night[/pullquote].
7. In a desperate move, and working with our staff at the Catholic Secretariat in Lusaka, we engaged a lawyer, Mr. S. Mambwe and associates to comb all Lusaka Police cells and find Fr. Viateur. All was in vain. We have been kept in the dark about the safety and the whereabouts of Fr. Viateur for four days until the announcement after the deportation by the Zambian Government on the evening of Thursday 2nd August 2012 by the Minister of Home Affairs, Mr. Edgar Lungu who finally confirmed, through the media, of his deportation from Zambia to Rwanda. The reasons given were that our beloved priest was deported for violating the laws of Zambia and that his conduct was found to be a danger to peace and good order in Zambia contrary to Section 39(2) of the Immigration and Deportation Act, No. 18 of 2010. Even after this confirmation, there was no courtesy on the part of government to inform me about the plight of our priest. I too, heard it through the media.
8. To the parishioners and people of Lundazi. You have been unjustly deprived of your pastor. As your Shepherd, I grieve with you at this great injustice that has been done to one of our own by our Government. We all know and have lived with Fr. Viateur. He is a good priest and a man of peace and integrity. No amount of explanation will ever convince us that he would behave in a manner that would cause a breach of peace of this country. Despite this injustice done to him, I still appeal to you all to remain calm and peaceful.[pullquote]I personally even phoned and spoke to the Republican President on the issue. He only promised that he would get back to me[/pullquote]
9. Fr. Viateur was ordained in 2004 and thus he became our priest. He became a priest of Chipata Diocese. He chose to remain in Chipata as one of the diocesan priests till his death.
10. I, like the rest of the members of the Catholic Church, are still in a state of shock that such a thing can happen to him and government does not care to explain as to why he was abducted, where he was taken. We urge the government to seriously consider revoking the deportation order for the sake of unity.
11. I further wish to remind the Patriotic Government (PF) that; You were voted into government on a popular platform of correcting the injustices of the past and entrenching good governance and a democratic culture where the rule of law would reign supreme. The manner in which Fr. Viateur was abducted and deported has not only perplexed us but has shocked us to the bone. We never thought we would see the day in this current government when the freedom of expression, let alone at the pulpit, would be criminalized in Zambia. We earnestly urge the government to address the real issues that are today affecting the poor people.
12. Notwithstanding the fact that Fr. Viateur holds a Rwandan passport, his human and constitutional rights have been grossly violated by the state. The way he has been treated flies in the face of natural justice. He was not given opportunity to be heard; he was not allowed legal representation of his choice and he was detained in secret location.[pullquote]The manner in which Fr. Viateur was abducted and deported has not only perplexed us but has shocked us to the bone. We never thought we would see the day in this current government when the freedom of expression, let alone at the pulpit, would be criminalized in Zambia[/pullquote]
13. To the priests of the diocese, religious men and women, parishioners of Lundazi and Catholics in general, I appeal for calm. It may take one week, one month or many years but we will not rest until justice and truth are served in this matter. We believe that justice and truth will be served one day! Fr. Viateur will one day return to us.
14. A special appeal to our Catholic priests: Do not be intimidated by anyone. You were ordained to preach the Gospel and this must be done even in the face of persecution. In doing so, you will be carrying out the prophetic role of being the conscience of society. As Jesus said, “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both Soul and body in Gehena” Matt. 10:28. No one shall be allowed to silence our priests.
15.In conclusion, I commend you all to pray for Fr. Viateur Banyangandora, his family and also the Rwandan refugee community resident in Zambia. In the January 2012 Pastoral letter, we the Catholic Bishops highlighted the plight facing the Rwandan refugee community in Zambia. Could the deportation of Fr. Viateur signal the start of worse things to come for this community and for our priests? Only God knows.
United in prayer, for the unity of our Diocese and beloved country, Zambia.
“That they have life and life in abundance” (John 10:10)
Rt. Rev. George Cosmas Zumaile Lungu
Bishop of Chipata Diocese
c.c. Most Rev. Ignatius Chama, Archbishop of Kasama Archdiocese and ZEC President.
c.c. Most Rev. Telespore G. Mpundu, Archbishop of Lusaka
c.c. Most Rev. Julio Murat, Apostolic Nuncio to Zambia and Malawi
c.c. Rt. Rev. Benjamin Phiri, Auxiliary Bishop of Chipata Diocese.
c.c. Rt. Rev. Bishop of Ruengeni Diocese, Rwanda.
‘…..Time will telll…..oh time will tell….’ sang Bob Marley
This is the begining of the down fall of the PF. In june the PF GVT closed a radio station in petauke for discussing about poverty in the area. We gave the government to a wrong group. Imagine, even the POST is controlled by malupenga and they now want close the zambian watchdog.
Infula pakuya eloyonaula ifisabo, don’t mind PF they are just passers by
Why do you engage in politics as a foreigner and a priest? Any government definitely cannot accept that.
You are a fool!!!! Is preaching about injustice politics. You are sick in your head!
i.d.i.o.t…go to hell with your small life full of problems……..you are a genius in stupid blogging indeed…if you dont have anything to say,it will be better for you to shut your stinking mouth.
@4 The Genius,
You need a lot of help, you have a huge problem.
Remove that pseudo name of genius becos it doesnt suit you. Indeed you are a fool. When a priest speaks about the plight of the poor u say its politics. Wakulila kwisa kanshi. Mambala.
You are are stupid *****, not genius.A stupid *****, no brains whatsoever.*****
Shame on the PF for abusing our votes. They do not deserve any more day in governing Zambia. They are the worst section of the mmd.
this is the outcome when you make a pact with the devil. Its very unfortunate that now you Catholics should start crying. You the clegy were busy campagning for PF when you knew that you were not levelling the playing field. As Gods servants its prudent that you as well apologise to RB and the Zambian pipo for misleading us and pleadge to fight satan and his pf
Imagine, what did these catholics expect from sata?
i wonder how small your brains can be…think guys…who never wanted a change of government amongst all the zambian poor masses?
The Bible says; when evil men rule, peopleg roan. You brought this apon yourselves, deal with it!!
No one shall be allowed to silence our priests; not even sata
Jesus tells us to love our enemies and he goes on further to ask, if you love those who only loves you, what have you done differently since even sinners do the same? He then emplored all of us to be like his Father in Heaven, who makes the sun to shine on both the sinners and the righteous alike, who lets the rain to water the field of the sinners and the righteous alike. Our President who openly make an open declaration to live and be guided by the 10 commandments has lamentably failed as can be seen in his political appointments. It is indeed disheartnening that people will use the name of God in vain. Such a declaration as made by MCS in public is an affront to God. It is my humble prayer that the President will have a self introspection and ask God’s forgiveness for using his name in
Amen to that! This Zambian President seem to be hiding muli bayawe. What is doing is totally different. If he can do that to his own catholic priest, others are in trouble. Where is Fr. Bwalya? I think he should start his campaign again.
A disgrace!!our country has been a banana republic for far too long,and we thought by the coming to power of a man many see as a hands on leader things will change for the better. Only a very insecure gvt treats people in this manner.A strong reminder to the PF, UNIP came and left,MMD came and left.You will go too!!
It is my humble prayer that the President will have a self introspection and ask God’s forgiveness for using his name in vain. Even his predecessors faced the church particulary the Catholic church with even more intensity than him, but never did they do such an abominable things such as the deportation of the servant of God. I would urge the Catholic Church in Zambia to ex-communicate Mr. Sata because he is not leaving by the christian teaching. I recall when the Bishops in the USA asked their churches not to give Eucharist to people who were supporting Stem Cell and abolition rights and this was done when John Kerry was running for president and was ofcourse in support of both. I think, it is high time the same stance was applied in our church in zambia.
Sounds more like Zimbabwe every day!
Agree, we have too many *****s and uneducated fools in cabinet. The few who are educated are also uncivilized. Zimbabwe here we come.
That letter should have come from ZEC president, Bishop Chama but that is not the case why? The occurance affect the entire nation not Eastern Province alone why is the letter read only in
Chipata Diocese? this indicate division within the Catholic Community especially evil Bishops like Mpundu a PF cadre and the inlaw of the Presisdent can not point figure on his relatives despite the numerous evil acts as he is evil himself. PF in power days are numbered. as a country wide demos are underway with the coming 6 months asking PF governement to leave office for a brain government
POOR THINKING
This indeed is the begining of the rise and fall of the PF. When you touch God’s annointed, you bring God’s wrath onto the nation. Judging by the management of the country thus far, God is weeping for Zambia. One would think, with age comes wisdom, this assertion no longer hold water in the zambian context. How could a man of wisdom become bedfellows with the likes of mr. Mugabe. One would think that the President at his age would want to live an ever lasting legacy of good governance and prosperity, but to the contrary ati “kufilila munsenga”. The late prez Chiluba is having the last laugh in the grave because he told zambians that Mr. Sata is not a leader but just a good worker. To the core of these words, it is true. Tata tabasha baona, judgement awaits you.
Who is God’s anointed? You’ll die ignorant, and you will find that when you die the only place you go to is no further than the grave. It is ridiculous how you are all stupefied in the name of a Jesus who did not exist.
With due respect to the Catholic Church, as much as appreciate what you are doing in this country, we will not take it when someone starts undermining the Govt in the name of preaching. Not all Priests or Pastors have a problem.
The PF Must be Kicked out of power. They have abused the goodwill of the people. The catholics must also kick out Tresfore Mpundu the Bishop. He is the brother in law to Sata. The two must have known that a poor catholic priest preaching love and raising concerns is to be deported. The Catholics played a role in getting PF into POWER. The reward???? Deportation. ukwa does talk politics in church. should we deport him to Mpika Chitulika Village???? he is running down Zambia.
Can a Leopard change its sports? Answer is an Emphatic NO
Can MMD Chief Bootlicker defect to any other party? Answer is Emphatic NO
Can a Party put in power by Kaponyas who are driven by lawlessness deliver the law of law to the masses? Answer is an Emphatic NO
We used to say that PF was the bad parts of MMD and people have now began to see for themselves. An operation like this was common during the MMD reign with Sata as one of the most influential players. Rule of law was brought in only when LPM took over the reigns and the bad guys left.
Alas, the bad guys are bad and this is not about President Sata, but rather the system has has brought which am afraid is bigger than him since he is aged now.
l thought RB wanted to deport the late outspoken bishop of mongu Duffy and the late Miha .By the way lm in no way condoning the deportation of this priest.ln my oppinion this is the worst act of cowardice PF have done since coming to power becoz its about peoples freedom to express themselves which is an inaliable right
Its people like you MMD Bootlicker that were supposed to advise the upper echelons of your party that RB was a complete disaster of a candidate and a certain loser of the elections. MMD had a wealth of potential presidential candidates but alas being what you are – a bootlicker – you allowed thugs like William Banda to prevail over the MMD top brass and ensure the provincial and national conventions supported RB!! Many zambians, even those in MMD, were disgusted by RBs arrogance especially toward corruption so we had no option to rid ourselves of the MMD by voting PF coz UPND did not make sense with HH at the helm either.
Can a vile corrupt party become clean in within months with the same thugs? You answer?
To the Catholic Church, I can only say, ‘you made your bed, now lie in it.’
Like the CIA, and Bin Laden, you created a monster now Frankenstein will. Haunt you.
Is he wanted for Genocide hence being deported or what?
ZAMBIA IS NOW A POLICE STATE. JUST LOOK AT THE TWO UNNECESSARY ROAD BLOCKS TO THE AIRPORT. WE ARE IN FOR A RUDE SHOCK.
Hey!!! Is this waht PF is doing to Catholic clergy?mamamamama…………I can see you moving out soon.If the catholics bcome against what you are doing then you are dummed.MMd was doing the same things,Dora could even insult the priest bt were are they today?PF be careful…..
where Jah bless no man curse.
The Catholic leadership in Zambia played a huge role in putting Sata and his PF in office.This is a good lesson to them. Let the Catholic leadership in Zambia learn that they elected a Party with atone age attitudes, and who are so ignorant that they dont even understand their own actions. No basic instincts of leadership whatsover in PF!
I think the Church in Zambia needs to protest this deportation.It was totally abuse of human rights.If you remain silent now you don’t know what monster will be unleashed on you soon.This man was not given a trial.Why was a politician there to interogate him?Who is running the police?Totally unacceptable in a country like Zambia.We are paying for voting PF in power may 2016 come quickly!
Let the Catholic leadership test their on creation.They are the one whocampaigned for Sata.Sata and Mugabe are both staunch members of Catholic Church and are both violent men.
Events will take their course, it is no good of being angry at them; time is the best judge, for so long as Zambians lament at evil in their hands, God batters at its sails and time will explain it all.
Another Donchi kubeba! Now on Catholic Church.
Down fall of PF? Forget it. Kaseba’s brother — Mpundu something is the Head of Catholics in Zambia. He will fire all the pastors to protect his windfall!
These are the fruits of friendship between Kaunda and sata. This advise is coming directly from Kaunda. People have started dissapearing
What has the Post Newspaper said about this. I’m always intrigued by the way they try to spin the so obviously wrong into a “right” for St Michael.
Of all the cants(deceptions) Zambians have suffered under the PF regime so far, the cant of hypocrisy may be the worst from Mr Sata, the point of critising Mr Sata is the most tormenting making him uncomfortable and restlessness in state house. Shadenfrism (pleasure of seeing once’s victims suffer) as Nazism in Auschwitz over the Jews.
Just when you think our President Sata has hit rock bottom on a scale of bad deeds and cannot do any worse than he has already done, he re-invents himself and comes up with even more retrogressive deplorable actions like this. It will be interesting to see how President Sata is going to turn this thing around and try and pin the blame on one of the opposition Parties because he specialises in that.
Proverbs 31:8-9 Charges the Priests (Pastors) with the responsibility to speak for those who cannot speak for themselves and to plead for the cause of the poor and needy in society. I guess this is exactly what this Priest did. We are beginning to see the difference between the MMD led by LPM and PF governments in that when MMD under LPM intended to deport Roy Clark, he was given an opportunity to be heard in the courts of law unlike in this case. Commandment number 9 has been broken Mr. President for falsely accusing the Priest of being a danger to the state for speaking for the poor and needy (Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour)
Ish, quite disappointing.
Am sure government is looking into this matter and they will let people know the truth, but I dnt think our government can deport some one without a proper reason, there must be a reason to the clergy’s deportation.
The fall of Pama fi is near. Its the Katholika against pama fi
Donchi kudabwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ine nomba ndelolelafye the kick off of the English Premier Leagueeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!
the media play a very big role in creating war in a country. This letter is feck. Shame ZWD. People lets not comment anyhow. The priest has something to do with Genocide.
Prove it, where was his arrest warrant or issue of extradition notice?
my friend..the priest has been in zambia for over twenty years and he was not a priest by the time of the genocide excalation. He was ordained in 2004 in chipata and the human engineered holocast was in 1994 which tells me and any other blogger thinking straight that it took 10 years for this guy to become a priest…how can you sensibly associate him to the genocide…?//
14. A special appeal to our Catholic priests: Do not be intimidated by anyone. “You were ordained to preach the Gospel.”
Time will tell.. I smell sulphur..
The writing is now clearly on the wall, only a retard can’t see it.
ST CANISIUS IS TURNING IN HIS GRAVE.””AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT, GO AND SERVE”” I QUOTE IS STILL IN MY HEAD.BUT WHAT AM I SEEING SAINT,EVEN AMONG YOUR FLOCK IT IS THE OPPOSITE.CHRIST WILL LIVE FOREVER.
I am sure the Catholics have tested their own medicine now that trouble has knocked at their door. We tried to talk to the Catholics to refrain from indulging themselves into so much politicking, but they decided to go along the PF way which they thought they would manipulate. And seeing Sata kneeling in their churches, they thought here is an Angel. To the contrary, among you Catholics, some leaders of your church has betrayed the trust of Zambians who are genuinely seeking God’s guidance in doing things correctly. You demonized and judged RB at the expense and using the poor’s name. The messages that the Priest was preaching good things but it never be good in the eyes of the people who feel they know it all. The Letter the Bishop has written is ok but what does he intend to achieve?
We told the people about PF and they were busy saying Sata has changed. All this is the work of the president; no one would ever try to deport a catholic priest without consulting Sata. He ordered it and will account for it sooner or later. Dont mess with Ekelezia Katholika
One Zambian man of God was also deported from Botswana this year. These guys must not involve themselves in politics. All I can say is PRAYER!
I warned you but you decided to call me names just like the way Jesus was rejected.
Where is the Post Fred Mmembe, the paper that digs nowhere?
I wish the like of Chipimo would speak up at times like this – afterall he is a lawyer, but then again he is a coward
you catholic priests *****s you were even killing chicken to bring in pf now you should be the last ones to complain you must be very dull from your homo activities for not knowing the evil you were championing stupid enjoy your evil way of doing things
Namakando Fred Mmembe of The Lost Newspapers some months ago said the church(in apparent reference to Catholics) can not afford not to participate in politics.This was in defense of the Catholic’s active campaign for Sata.
So now,enjoy the politics-African politics.
Pop corns please
CHURCHES MUST NOT BE INVOLVED IN POLITICS. LEAVE POLITICS TO POLITICIANS. PERIOD. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN OR HEARD JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES COMMENTING ON POLITICS? THEIR CONCENTRATION IS EXPLAINING THE WORD OF JEHOVAH, GOD. BY THE WAY WHO SAID CLERGYMEN CANNOT BE DISCIPLINED WHEN THEY MESS UP?
What is your definition of Politics?
Why are you all crying over a foreigner being deported? Try at last once to be patriotic. Why are you Zambians so docile??? You are quick to blame your brother for the sake of a foreigner. I have never seen such behavior by citizens of any country anywhere where i have been. You make me sick!!!!.
Just die
its because you have not been among humans that is why u are sick alien,lost from andromida
A genuine church true to its mission MUST always call for an END to the economic marginalization,social class injustices and oppression in their backyard and nation as a whole. A genuine church true to its cause must be a beckon of hope& direction to the mankind. Peace in a nation,like peace on earth as God intended, is only attainable when there’s affirmation of fairness, justice and equal opportunities for all. By opportunities, in no way does this mean nepotism&corruption. But creating an ENVIRONMENT in which everyone’s dream has room to thrive.
How would the poor and mankind in general worship God whole heartedly under such injustices webbed in lies, intimidation by the very people whom the poor entrusted with power to protect and provide for their interests?
Its a bitter test of their own medicine
The priests and bishops were in the fore-front massacring innocent Tutsis in Rwanda and ran away to mainly Zambia and Zimbabwe;maybe this priest is also a wanted man in Rwanda…….FIND OUT!!!!!!!!
This deportation has nauseated me and I know this is the begning of the fall of PF. Psalms105v15 TOUCN NOT MY ANNOINTED DO MY PROPHETS NO HARM.Count me out in 2016.Pf government ZWA ZWA.We voted for democracy but we are seeing dictatorship even Zimbambwe is better.
@51 IN CHRIST THERE IS NO FOREIGNER.WE ARE ONE IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.AM NOT A CATHOLIC BUT I FEEL THE PAIN WHEN A CATHOLIC IS INJURED .EVEN IF THE CATHOLICS ARE FIGHTING AMONG THEMSELVES I FEEL THE PAIN MORE.IT IS ON THIS BASIS OF BEING ONE IN CHRIST THAT WE CRY HERE.PLEASE THINK A LITTLE DEEPER OR LITTLE SERIOUS ABOUT IT.THIS IS NOT MEDICINE FOR ANYBODY BUT THE BODY OF CHRIST HERE.YES THE CATHOLIC COULD HAVE SUPPORTED PF WITH GOOD INTENTIONS BUT LIKE ANY OTHER PERSON COULD HAVE BEEN DECEIVED .AM SURE NEXT TIME,””THEY WON”T TRUST ANY POLITICIAN””
Hambilwi you need to wake up. We have territories which we fought for and need to protect. Stop talking about Jesus here, we are not in Church. These are politics of country security. Also learn to use lower case letters. Upper case means shouting and there is no need to shout here. This man was deemed dangerous by people who run the security of our country. Those of us living in foreign lands know very well that we cannot engage in the politics of the host country. Otherwise they deport you faster than Zambia did to this suspect of genocide.
@38 Dido, you must have mispelt your name. The correct one is DILDO. What makes you think the letter is fake. OOH sorry. You said the letter is “feck”. whatever that means in your vocab. Have you not seen the same letter you claim to be fake printed in part in your favourite tabloid The Post newspaper of toady? Why do you blame the ZWD when this letter has been puclished on LT? Munkhwele iwe.
My conclusion is that if you are a foreigner and without voting rights dont tell us or our politcians what to do. Go and do that in your country. I am sure your government is treating it’s people even worse, so go and help and leave us with our own problems. And all those nonpatriotic Zambians just shut up or join him in Rwanda.
Does anyone really know the history of the catholic church? Read your books. The highest incident of child abuse is from catholic priests, so is the highest incident of homosexuality. Myself I have no mercy for these people, nor the fools that choose to be misled. These people excommunicated Galileo Galilei for saying that the earth is round, and is not the centre of the universe. The Vatican made an official statement finally accepting that the earth is intact round as late as 1987. How ignorant is that? Anyway, he should just mis-lead his lost souls, not engage in my struggle. Poverty is not fought overnight. Zambia is not the only country where people are in dire poverty. Why should we be the only ones to have a magic formula? Why was the same magic not demanded of previous regimes?
Well said
You are definitely deficient in your logic. You are obviously a blind follower of the anti-catholic rhetoric. You are the one who’s expressing your ignorance about the history of religion. It is common knowledge that all ancient peoples thought the earth was flat. Even the bible itself has inaccurate information about scientific facts such as years and geographical locations. The bible and the church are infallible in matters of faith and morals, and not in matters of history, geography, archaeology or any science for that matter. You need enlightenment.
Wait untill PF government issues a comprehensive statement over the issue of deportation. He cannot only be sent back over cotton issues, but something deeper. It could be a request by Rwandees government in connection with genocide.Some catholic priests and brothers were in the forefront in perpetrating this hineous crime agaist fellow africans.
But there is need for Rwanda to first issue an arrest warant, also the international court is currently dealing with the issue of Genocide. It was worng for the Zambia Governement to deport without firsst giving him the chance to explain his message. Many pastors preached against third term even on TV. In this scenarior what should happen to Zambia pastors who preach against the goverment? Get arrested? Freedom of expression means freedom of critique. I know of Zambians who insult presidents and speak down on the people they live with in other countries and who has gotten deported?
I now understand what Chiluba’s proverbs meant when he said,
“Umuntu nga ale kota amano yalapwa.” Minimum age for president must be included in the constituition.
First Ba tusebanya kuli Ba Bush instead yaku taking advantage dollar ifule mu Zambia, second instead of being a model for the region on Zim we encourage impunity of out dated ideas. Confidence, confidence, confidence in rule of law, security, prosperity of my beloved country will still remain a wish and a dream
Minimum age 25 Maximum age 55 for president! beyond these ages ama ideas bale letter awe mwandini.
Some people behave like flies, being buried with the corpes.
HH For president 2016
insoka sha fika >-) pa Zambia **==
>-) **==
Where is father Bwalya, this is what u fought for man!!! Where are yo cards??? Killing chickens and ordaining candidates during political rallies, insulting Banda matobomatobo, praising St Michael. Come out 2de boss if u really speak for the poor and thoz oppressed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Pentecostals and Charismatics had their own day of crying when they thought they had a brother at State House in the late FTJ.
What did he do? Divided the Christian community, castigated pastors, corrupted them with cash, intimidated them to the point of some singing his praises, bestowing upon him the anointing of God, which resulted in nothing but misery for many.
I pray the PF government will learn to accept truth and criticism. If they do this in their first year, they will have longer in Office. Zambia is now truly democratic because we can change our government easily.
RB expected to stay in Office much longer than he actually did. His became the shortest term of Office. PF risk beating that record for a Party that has been given a full five year term to govern Zambia.
The longest PF might have in Office will be the five years, after that they may be out of office forever.
FR BWALYA WILL NEED TO KILL A BULL TO RESERVE HAS HAPPENED TO THE BODY OF CHRIST.THE CATHOLIC BROTHERS SHOULD NOT FIGHT TO BRING BACK OUR DEAR DEPORTED FATHER.I SAW HIM IN THE DREAM SAYING,””DON’T CRY FOR ME BUT CRY FOR YOURSELVES AND YOUR CHILDREN, BECAUSE I AM JUST A TOOL OF GOD,WHO HAS NO CONTROL WITH WHAT I SAY BUT SAY WHAT GOD WANTS ME TO SAY.JUST AS JESUS COULD NOT REVERSE HIS DEATH SO COULD I NOT RESERVE MY DEPORTATION””.FORGIVE THOSE WHO PERSECUTE YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.SO NOW WE KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE GO TO CHURCH TO WORSHIP BUT TO SPY THOSE WHO WORSHIP THE LORD.NOW I KNOW WHY SOME PEOPLE WORSHIP IN TONGUES.IT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR WORDS ARE NOT USED AGAINEST YOU.PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH THE BROTHER NEXT TO YOU IN CHURCH,HE COULD BE JUST A WETNESS AGAINST YOU .
@69 I MEANT THEY GO TO CHURCH NOT TO WORSHIP BUT TO SPY ON THOSE WHO WORSHIP THE LORD.
My fellow Zambians dont forget that its the catholic and there radio’s that started the 1994 genocide in Rwanda, Be very careful with the nyamulenge
#41 You bring memories of St Canisius in Monze: “AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT, GO AND SERVE.” We have kept the faith and served others well. I notice that there are very few ex-Canisius (1 member in the name of Evans) if any in government, to “go and serve.” Although at the swearing in ceremony, he seems to not have been known by the Powers that be. He was my powerful prefect and role model!
“We shall overcome one day” as we used to sing in the Chikuni Chapel.
“Pray without ceasing” for our nation and our leaders. Amen!
ya u supported the devil mmd and killed mazoka and now you supported satan and called HH a tribalist, its payback time.
Deporting a Catholic priest is not something any sensible government wants to do frivolously or lightly. One therefore hopes the government had sufficiently strong grounds for deporting Fr. Viateur, and that they would sufficiently explain those reasons and grounds to the nation. Otherwise people are liable to think we are going back to gestapo days.
PF rules: (1) DO THINK, (2) IF YOU THINK,DON’T TALK, (3) IF YOU THINK AND TALK, DON’T WRITE, (4) IF YOU THINK,TALK AND WRITE, THEN DON’T SIGN. (5) IF YOU THINK, TALK, WRITE AND SIGN, THEN DON’T BE SURPRISED. (THIS IS PURE DICTATORSHIP)
Am amazed at the unjust criticism of the Catholic church as though they swayed the entire nation to vote for Sata.Many Pentecostal pastors supported him and though fragmented are a large segment of voters now being subjected to insults and intimidation by Sata and his agent Andeleki.Sata insulted General Secretary Pukuta Mwanza (EFZ)and him dull a man with three engineering degrees! He insulted the late George Kunda SC(RIP) calling hum the dullest lawyer!
Kunda and Mwanza did not take him to court!
He lied that HH lived in ex-Lima Bank house, HH published the title to prove the house had never belonged to LIMA bank, Sata has retracted the lie! As a result of his deeds with my basic psychology training am wondering if we don’t have a person suffering from Paranoia in state house
Touch not the anointed ones. PF your power is getting out of propotion and i foresee the beginning of your end.
The choice was between an uprising formented by a foreign priest and peace advocated by the government.
iwee shetani opposers nawishiba ifyo umupatili acita ku Rwanda shetani.leka aleya bayemuponolacixxx cakwe.
the catholic church put in power the vipers..
In Uganda, many years ago, the people rejoiced and there was countrywide jubilation when Idi Amin over threw Obote. What followed is in the annals of history. So much blood was shed, the country was raped and academicians disappeared. The great university of Makerere which was once a fountain of knowledge became a cemetery. sta is no different from Idi Amin. Physically, mentally and emotionally! He is another mad dictator. Watch this space!
I was only abducted so that i can complete drafting your constitution. You know Ukwa originally wanated 3 of us to make this document for him but our bosses only released one chap….and thats how Shetani just abducted me to complete the job.
Don’t worry my children, we will bury Satan at sea very soon due to natural causes – thereafter we shall have dual citizenship, the Chinese will live in peace, Mugabe we will not talk to, We will respect George Bush, etc etc.
This is when the role of opposition must be fully applied. Zambia faces fundamental breaches of basic freedoms by CNP yet everyone who should be asking him questions remains silent. Opposition is not just about campaigning when there is an election, or lip service to the so called checks and balances, it is about challenging such abuses before they get out of hand. Where is Nevers,Miyanda, Nawakwi, Chipimo, Magande, H H? CNP cannot be allowed unoppossed space to carry on the way things are. The man does not know any better, his close ties with dictators in Mugabe and Kaunda will only drift with country back to days of brutality and intolerance that we now witness.
I miss Chiluba, Rupiah and even Mwanawasa.These leaders understood better the penal code CNP is using as an excuse for locking up decent citizens.They weighed it against the benefits of basic freedoms that we all looked Forward to after removing UNIP,chose not to use it to the extent that the CNP led govt is. Instead they tolerated being criticised, defamed, belittled and literally insulted by the same CNP. First this law was brought in by a ruthless former dictator, a bigger ‘Chibwi with No Light at the End of the Tunnel’. He locked up all his opponents from the early 1970s and went on to rule for 27 unopposed years. The same Chibwi has resurfaced playing dipplomatic roles for CNP instead of retiring. How does one expect good from an alliance of two devils?
Fr Bwalya job well done for giving this nation a leader who gives your fellow priests a hard time.
Please President Sata and government get over your pride and bring back the good bold man of God. This is beneath you President Sata and your government. Please do not reduce yourselves to MMD league. Now i know why we have lots such coward Zambian bishops and pastors, they busy themselves just ‘quietly lavishly eating mutulo over heads the poor’. Men and women of God are required to speak on behalf of the poor. Zambia needs all God blessings it can get, stop delaying God’s blessing on the people. I would be so suprised and dissappointed, and so will many Zambians if the deportation is not reversed.
Now i’m looking both for weblogs that provide honest, well balanced feedback at almost all complications or simply weblogs that contain any liberal or simply left-wing inclination. Thanks a lot..