President Hakainde Hichilema Vows to Safeguard National Boundaries Amid Border Concerns

1. If he means what he’s said then let’s reclaim the Pedicle up to Mpweto.

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   • President Hakainde,

     My President in Tanzania has given you land as a present. She has no power to give you land and did not consult the Tanzanian Parliament. Tanzanians need that land. What surprises most Tanzanians is that you have no shame and disgrace to have accepted this gift.

     In as much as you would find it hard to give land to any president of any of your neighboring countries, we find your sense of judgement very questionable to have accepted the land gift. Can you kindly, return the land.

     Dr. Musa Bakari
     Concerned Tanzanian

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   • @Musa Bakari
     So he got land while condemning Edgar Lungu for accepting land in Swaziland?

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   • Ba Bakari where is the land? I doubt it exists because it is not possible in present day earth for any one person to hand land to another country. We have constitutions, parliaments, courts, and free media even in Tanzania. Please explain because Tanzania is our best friend and we dont want to have unneccessary quarrels

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   • # Umwina Zed

     This is a true story. The issue here is who will end up owning this land. It was best for HH just to say Madam President. Thanks; But No. And ask her to give it to the poor who need Land in Tanzania. A gift for What. Tanzanians have the right to be angry.

     Tanzania Gives Zambia 20 Hectares of Land at Mtwara Port as Independence Day Gift
     { Lusakatimes By Chief Editor -October 25, 2023 }

     https://www.lusakatimes.com/2023/10/25/tanzania-gives-zambia-20-hectares-of-land-at-mtwara-port-as-independence-day-gift/

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   • @@ Umwina Zed….

     You are full of hot air and pretend to smart. @ INDEPENDENT OBSERVER thanks for validating the story. They were going to call your a liar or speculator if you had just responded that its a true story.

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   • @Xfactor if there’s anyone blowing hot air here it is you as you are spoiling for a fight yet we sane minds are having a productive interaction. One looking for solutions thats why you are intimidated by our smartness. Every nation can have land allocated to them in another country. Zambia itself has given land to over 40 countries in Lusaka. All diplomats to Zambia live on their own land!
     A landlocked or linked country like Zambia can be strategically ‘handed’ space at a port so that they dont go paying port fees(and other investments) to someone else. In this case competing with Tanzania are: Angola, Mozambique, Namibia and South Africa but Zambia will employ Tanzanians on that land. Business baba.

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   • @IO the land in the story u have attached was not given to HH but to Zambia. There’s a big difference. It’s not for HH to use for his business. If you come to a port city you will find docking areas that are rated out. It indeed is business space.

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   • Ayatollah it isnt ours. The colonising Belgians and Britons demarcated it and all we do is just follow. Cant Zambia and DRC sit down and say but kwena mwalitwingila mukati lets just make that “peninsula” Zambia? If we discover minerals there in the next 100 years we give it back to you. If not we keep it forever. The Congolese do nothing with the pedicle except to disturb Zambian travellers from copperbelt to Luapula

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   • @Dr Musa Bakari: You are talking rubbish. Let me educate you. What Tanzania has done, is to allocate port space to Zambia. The hope is that Zambia in patronising the port Zambia will pay port duties, and make commercial development at the port. In effect, Tanzania is inducing Zambia to invest in Tanzania’s port infrastructure, and also in defraying the high cost of operating the port, which is not cheap operation given how the Dutch, the Italians, the Greeks, the Germans and other Europeans have ceded operation of some of their ports to the Chinese due to high costs. Also, Tanzania is doing what Namibia has already done for Zambia at Walvis Bay. Zimbabwe has invested US $600 million to keep Zambia using Beitbridge…Angola is making similar noises. So shut up

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   • @INDEPENDENT OBSERVER: Tanzania “gave” Zambia, not HH, port space. Ports are extremely expensive to operate. Greece, Italy, Germany, to say nothing of Sri Lanka, have ceded some of their biggest ports to Chinese companies because of costs. Tanzania wants the copper traffic of Zambia, as does Namibia and Zimbabwe, because this high volume, high value traffic. Even Angola is making similar noises. On their own, it is very expensive for these small economies to manage these expensive ports, and that is why the want Zambia subsidise these ports. Here is the story of the German port ceded to China: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-inks-deal-with-chinas-cosco-on-hamburg-port/a-65586131

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   • @If he means what he’s said then let’s reclaim the Pedicle up to Mpweto: The area is full of Copper, and DRC will never let Zambia have it. To be fair, if it comes with more Congolese people, I do not want it. We already have enough problems with the Frederick Chipuba, Moises Katumbi kinds in our country. Let them keep the pedicle. Russia has no problem interacting with it Kaliningrad exclave.. Zambia will be fine, as long as we elect honest leaders like HH or KK.

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   • # Musa Name

     I never said that HH was given the land personally. You are the one is saying that. See the heading in my comments from lusaktimes. The problem here is the context and language used by the Tanzanian President. I ask you to read the 3 top online newspapers & opposition parties in Tanzania what they are saying against their president on this issue. She was interviewed and her answers made it worse.

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   • @@ INDEPENDENT OBSERVER

     Indeed you DID NOT say the land was given to HH in your comments. I have noted that people are just addicted to attacking you and have not time to process your comments. Its like you have slept with their wives and daughters. Good dialogue is hard to find at Lusakatimes, especially to those among us who support UPND……

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   • @IO Check the thread.
     Dr Musa Bakari starts off by accusing HH of receiving a gift of land from the Tanzanian President, Umwina Zed comes in to doubt this, then you respond to UZ saying This is true.
     And you go on to pontificate on who will own this land. How then- I must point out after someone explains this land wasnt given to HH-do you come and push the claim that you never said so? You are trying to run away from your clear insinuation that HH has been given a personal gift of land in Tanzania!

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   • # Musa Name

     Stop being an eediot. You are proving nothing here, but taking things out of context.

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   • Mainga-trying to act smart and terribly flopping eh? zip up you empty tin!

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   • This Mainga is a PF plant. He pretends to be UPND but he is busy supporting HH accusations. I wonder if he has even been to school

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2. When it comes to disputes over African borders, it is important to recognize that this is not solely an African issue. The legacies of colonialism continue to have a profound impact on the continent, including the drawing of arbitrary borders that often disregarded pre-existing ethnic, cultural, and geographic realities. As a result, many African countries have been grappling with border disputes and territorial claims that have deep historical roots, and the resolution of these issues requires a nuanced and multilateral approach.

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3. It is true that many of the current leaders in Africa were born after their countries gained independence, and therefore may not have firsthand experience of the colonial era or the circumstances surrounding the drawing of borders. This lack of direct experience can indeed present challenges when addressing historical border disputes. However, it is essential to recognize that the legacies of colonialism continue to shape the geopolitical landscape of Africa, and the impacts of arbitrary border delineations are still felt by millions of people across the continent.

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4. When border issues arise in Africa, it is crucial for all stakeholders, including African nations, regional organizations, and the international community, to engage in dialogue and collaboration to seek peaceful and mutually acceptable solutions. While it is important for African leaders to take the lead in addressing border disputes, the involvement of former colonial powers and the broader international community can also play a constructive role in promoting mediation, facilitating negotiations, and providing historical context and expertise.

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5. The colonial powers that were responsible for drawing many of Africa’s borders have a moral responsibility to acknowledge the historical injustices and complexities that continue to affect the continent. Their involvement should focus on supporting African-led efforts to address border disputes in a manner that respects the sovereignty and self-determination of African nations while also taking into account the historical context and the interests of affected communities.

   • What hundreds of years later you still crying
     cry for the economy and lets fix that

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   • Hundreds?? They only left 50 years ago!

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6. Lusaka Times is increasingly becoming a government publication. Nearly every day HH is the headline!

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   • Like DeadNBC. And Zambia Daily Mail-sorry-Zambia Daily Noise and Grime of Zambia

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   • LT
     Just introduce an HH corner or HH column

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7. Where is our army?

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   • What 4???

8. We never had such under pf because we were pro african and believed borders were created by whlte colonialist to divide and conquer us. These whltes are ones who funded hh so he has to follow what they tell him.

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9. Whites dont have to decide you !!
   you do that very well amongst yourselves thank you

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10. Hoping to negotiate with a Zambia friendly guy who is currently leading in the DRC presidential elections. But why would government wait for a chief to complain about a border dispute directly to the president? The president said he will go with the chief to check for the tampered beacons. What has Jack Mwiimbu done about it?

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11. He calls a press conference to talk about PF. Nothing to help the people get out of their misery.

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    • Oh, he also talked about his blosoming son wanting his father to buy an MC Hammer, don’t touch this!

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12. He’s talking about a coup d’etat….is he suspecting one? Why talk about something which is none existing.

13. Senior Chief Puta expressed gratitude to President Hichilema for the recent pardon of former Finance Minister Katele Kalumba. He appreciated the President’s decision to grant clemency to Kalumba, demonstrating a spirit of reconciliation and unity.
    The pardon of Kalumba is not reconciliation or unity but endorsement of corruption. Perhaps unity in corruption? Pardon those fishermen and poachers charged with illegal fishing

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    • True.

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14. When someone points out the words “arbitrary” and “delineations” in their complaints, and they are indeed accurate and justified in doing so, yet you fail to address these terms, they may interpret your response as dismissive or evasive. It’s important to acknowledge and engage with valid concerns, and to demonstrate a genuine effort to understand and address the issues at hand. Failure to do so can inadvertently convey a lack of regard for their perspective and may hinder effective communication and conflict resolution.

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15. Congolese are a very big problem.These people are blood thirsty and very synonyms with pandemonium, anarchy and war.It’s good that the President will go and physically see the tempered boundary.A Zambia army base of marine commandoes should be placed in the area as soon as possible.

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    • Too confrontational!

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    • We don’t want problems especially us who are from there. We know what happens when there’s civil strife in the DRC. It’s not a laughing matter.

    • Chachine ba Deja Vu. However being a peaceful land locked country has meant that Zambia has suffered from all directions when neighbours are in turmoil. Racist South Africa and Rhodesia attacked us from the south, then South Africa and Renamo attacked Eastern Zambia from Mozambique. Angolans fighting each other invaded us in Western province. Katanga and North Kivu rebels have been pouring refugees into Luapula Copperbelt and North Western. Its our fate and we should learn the lesson of peace from our neighbors’ conflicts.

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16. I am concerned about the border with Zimbabwe being put in the wrong place by the English. The Tonga people on both sides of the border should be in one country, Zambia. Zimbabwe should have no part of the Zambezi river. As for Kaputa or wherever that is, I frankly could not care less. No matter where you draw the border, there will still be a dispute. You can go a thousand kilometers West into Congo, and you will still find the same people; You can go Eest 3 or 400km into Zambia and you will still find the same people. On what basis can you then demarcate a border? You people in this region should start training for war, in case the Congolese decide to invade you. When were being bombed and gunned down in the South by Ian Smith, no one came to share in our dying

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