How Zambia’s elected leaders treat each other

1. Sad very sad. I’m at a loss for words.So is this the face of multi party democracy ? to use the police and the judiciary to settle political scores? How much time and manpower is wasted doing all this. SAD! We can’t develop if this continues.

   • Absolutely right.

2. Even the current leaders should expected to be treated badly once they lose power. This is generally whats makes most leaders in Africa to cling on to power. It starts like this.

   • max
     Without doubt we shall be collectively liable for failing ourselves if we allow the current leadership go scott free.They are the worst when it comes to police brutality because it appears that is all they have to offer.
     Long of it all indeed we are Africans and naturally of very limited capacity upstairs.

3. A statistical perusal shows PF has made more arrests – proportional to the intent of hiding koswe shenanigans.

   • Rubbish!!! PF has made more arrests because one Hakalusa Hagain whats to cause problems by pretending to be be very popular among his cattle.

4. What goes round comes around! The vicious cycle of life.

5. Whist in the meantime, during this same time frame other headlines in advanced countries have read: NASA discovers new planets, Doctors discover new life changing drugs, New computer proves smarter than humans etc… For us however, all the headlines still read: Corruption, Poverty, Third Terms, Campaigns, Theft, Tax Evasion…. The negatives always outweighing the positives. Can we please move on to evolve as a nation, self sufficient, proud and free…

   • juzz
     Actually the levels of public debate have significantly fallen from the time PF took over.The topics you cite is all there is not even asking ourselves how we will repay the monies they have failed to account for.

   • our mindset is upside down especially those in leadership.

   • Well said Juzz.

6. This is good, in the sense that we are documenting it. It should be published every now and then to remind us that politically we are not growing as a nation . We keep moving back and forth on the same issues year in year out. As a nation we lack a documenting and reading culture which plays a huge role in why we are unable to create new good policies and solutions for passed errors. We need to stop treating government appointment like a “miss Zambia pageant selection”. This is a body of the country that is meant to help society grow and build a future that preserves. What honestly have we achieved since independence? (And lets stop calling it independence day and call it national day)

7. It’s a trend that has been set.It will be very difficult to break it.I would have been happy if the genesis of this was illustrated starting when Zambia became independent.KK was also ruthless towards other political opponents.He had no regards for human rights.He treated political divergent with a firm and strong hand.People,who opposed him,vanished mysteriously under his leadership.The same measure of brutality was inherited by Chiluba.He was also very ruthless.Worse still,he was hiding under the canopy of Christianity.A lot of renowned politicians were killed and vanished without trace.This brutality is historical and it will be difficult to dispense with.

   • Only difference with KK was that the country developed and moved forward. We had better hospitals, better schools and Education was powerful and strong and very competitive. We had better profitable mines that benefited the people of Zambia across the country without drama for it was done in the name of ‘One Zambia, One Nation’ slogan. Zambia was well respected world over and that brought in a lot direct investments to the country which again benefited the masses across the country. So we need to be careful when run such comparisons. The fact is that the PF government has failed the Zambian people period. And it is embarrassing to say the least both locally and internationally.

8. this whole rot of injustices should stop forthwith..we need lean politics!!let Paya fama go

9. What about that sad picture of late Simon Kapwepwe beaten to the ground during KK’s days? And Major Richard Kachingwe grounded by Bowman’s boys? If you recall how Simon Kapwepwe, Elias Chipimo, Nalumino Mundia and many others were treated from KK’s days, you will know the root of this culture. Stone throwing and pangas still trending in this day and era, reason why the Kaponyas’ are now a great asset for political parties, to harass and intimidate.

   • all these baffoons except Sata desreved punishment, Remember how Chi Kaunda used to kill pipo using intelligence, very stupid

   • Abuses under Sata were unprecedented.I think RB was the only one not out to settle political scores on large scale like the rest. KK was and is dignified ruler who is greatly respected,maybe we were too young to know what he did to his opponents but the generations after him have done the country a great disservice

10. On point Lusaka Times….if we forget our history we are bound to repeat its’ mistakes….when UPND takes over, they will surely need to do a lot better than showing revenge and retribution to PF….might be worthwhile to offer bena ECL, Kaizer, Chanda etc etc an ammnesty to declare their stolen loot, return it and let them go scott free..Zimbabwe just did it and billions of dollars were returned…Fowadi meanwhile….

11. @Maharaji. You were clearly too young. KK after 1972 was a troubled soul. He cleared the most political opponents. FTJ was ok the 1st term but lost it afterwards. His 3rd term campaign was the beginning of the fall of MMD. After FTJ, high profile politically motivated journeys to the graveyard are hard to point to…

12. This is the song some of us have been singing for a long time. Old repressive laws will lead to everyone being arrested at one point or the other. We need to change this! Secondly we continue to keep the prisons in very terrible conditions. Kaunda was President for 27 years and the state of our Prisons really went bad during that period did he ever think one day he too would end up in the cells? Those with ears hear “wisdom calls out to you”. So today is the day to change things minister of Justice improve our Legal system and change the attitude of our cruel Judges who prefer to sentence people on misdeamours to custodial sentences when an option of them doing community service. Community service as a matter of fact even benefits the community as a whole better. Politicians think they…

    • Ctn…Politicians think they are immune to the misfortunes of life which they are hugely to blame for. Well history has proven them wrong and it will continue to prove them wrong.

13. Well done ba LT for highlighting and reminding us how our Leaders treat each other once in power.

    I am reminded of the saying by Abraham Lincoln:-

    “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power.”
    More than anything else known to man, POWER exposes just how actually small-minded OR just how genuinely mature a person is.

    This is why the motto of journalism should faithfully remain anchored in “To Inform, Entertain and Educate”.

14. interesting stuff

15. elected leaders? is it me or some of the people here were and are not elected leaders..title a bit misleading

16. Chiluba was a thief

    • Nindalama za anyoko! Wenyo

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